Conley to visit Ohio this weekend.
According to Kyle Meinke and Scout:
Michigan commit RT @BillBankGreene: Gareon Conley to visit Ohio State this Saturday. http://bit.ly/QcZbRD
November 22nd, 2012 at 12:57 PM ^
November 22nd, 2012 at 12:58 PM ^
November 22nd, 2012 at 12:59 PM ^
He might as well spit in our face....Just like what Brionte did last year...I know how the Buckeyes felt.
Goodbye
November 22nd, 2012 at 1:00 PM ^
Just like Brionte? So does that mean he's going to stick with us?
November 23rd, 2012 at 6:52 AM ^
I think you're taking this too personally.
November 22nd, 2012 at 12:59 PM ^
November 22nd, 2012 at 1:01 PM ^
Best of luck to him. If he doesn't want to be blue and be apart of the greatest program of all time then that is his loss.
November 22nd, 2012 at 7:46 PM ^
November 23rd, 2012 at 2:02 AM ^
Why do you wish him the "best of luck"?
Screw him if he isn't here
November 22nd, 2012 at 1:01 PM ^
November 22nd, 2012 at 1:40 PM ^
Do we know when the "big news" is supposed to happen with Treadwell today?
November 22nd, 2012 at 2:11 PM ^
I think he is receiving some kind of award
November 23rd, 2012 at 11:11 PM ^
Chicago Sun-TImes named him Chicago-Area Player of the Year
November 22nd, 2012 at 1:02 PM ^
See ya later Conley! Don't let the door hit ya on the way out.
November 23rd, 2012 at 9:17 AM ^
Visiting our biggest rival on the day of THE game? I can't even think of a bigger 'FUCK YOU MICHIGAN' statement.
Wish him well, but we can find a better match. Buh bye Conley.
November 22nd, 2012 at 1:02 PM ^
November 22nd, 2012 at 6:51 PM ^
Will neg every post of yours until you change your Bolivia worthy sig line.
November 22nd, 2012 at 11:16 PM ^
November 22nd, 2012 at 1:04 PM ^
And it bugs me when players do this. It is one thing if there is a big change going on at a school, but what has changed at either Michigan or OSU since he committed to us? Take your time at first before you make this decision because all you are doing is screwing someone else who would have wanted to come here.
November 22nd, 2012 at 1:11 PM ^
November 22nd, 2012 at 1:12 PM ^
November 22nd, 2012 at 5:13 PM ^
Statistics have shown nationwide that only 1 out of 10 college students don't change their major and see their college path through from start to finish. That means 90% of kids already in college change their minds, switch programs, or schools, or don't even finish. It's not unreasonable for a high school student to do so too. He has to chart his next 4+ years before it happens in one lump decision, and once he's enrolled he's basically stuck with it no matter how differently he might feel in a couple years. Tons of pressure, tons of people pulling him in different directions, and lots of tough decisions. If 90% of American college students do it, then 17 year olds should be able to as well without being villified.
November 23rd, 2012 at 2:28 PM ^
Changing a major as a "student" effects only the student, no other people have been "committed" to. Really, what one chooses to major in is not a "commitment". One can commit to it, but they would really be the only one effected by changing it. It would be my hope, that if my son ever had the privilege of being in this position, that he would be a man of his word... regardless of the end result.
November 22nd, 2012 at 1:15 PM ^
Isn't that what a lot of Michigan recruits are being criticized for, right now? "Taking their time"? Thinking of Treadwell and Green, among others, past, present and future.
November 22nd, 2012 at 1:36 PM ^
November 22nd, 2012 at 1:46 PM ^
First of all I think a lot of people are fine with Green and Treadwell taking their time. Second of all Green and Treadwell have been everywhere multiple times so some people feel like there is no point in them waiting anymore. If Conley would have took his time in the beginning then people wouldn't have any beef with it.
November 22nd, 2012 at 9:11 PM ^
November 22nd, 2012 at 1:43 PM ^
Conley is a 3* prospect, not nationally ranked and barely Top-50 in the State. When we offered him in March, he only had offers from Marshall and Northwestern.
He had no idea he was going to blow up, and jumped on what was the biggest opportunity of his life (so far). You say he should have "taken his time, so he doesn't screw someone else who wants to be here". For all he knew, if he had "taken his time", then someone else would have filled that spot. Remember, this was when we had that 8 recruit weekend, and our class was filling fast, he had no clue if he would be left behind in all the shuffle
November 22nd, 2012 at 1:49 PM ^
Yeah I'm not going to agree with the assumption that Michigan should be a place holder for anybody. We are an elite program this isn't East Lansing brother.
November 22nd, 2012 at 2:14 PM ^
This is Michigan fergodsakes!
November 22nd, 2012 at 2:19 PM ^
We're not being a "placeholder" for anybody. It's not like he's a 5* recruit who committed somewhere so people would leave him alone. We were his only big offer, of course he was gonna commit. Not committing would have been stupid
And now that's he's been blowing up in the last few months, he wants to reconsider his options, which he didn't have back in March.
It's disappointing for us, but he's not doing anything dishonest here, or using UM as a placeholder
November 22nd, 2012 at 5:15 PM ^
Very true, when he committed it was basicallly Michigan or nothing. Easy choice. Now it's been a while and it's Michigan, or a lot of other top schools blowing his phone up and promising him the world. That's a brand new decision to make, and he needs to make the best one that suits him, not us.
November 23rd, 2012 at 9:24 AM ^
but IMO you aren't part of this class after you visit our biggest rival on the day of THE GAME.
That is offensive and unacceptable.
November 22nd, 2012 at 5:12 PM ^
He got an offer from Ohio, which he did not have when he committed. I mostly agree with your point. But in fairness things have changed. Adults do the same thing all the time with jobs, why should we expect a difference from kids.
November 23rd, 2012 at 6:56 AM ^
Because some fans are unreasonable and can't look at things objectively.
November 22nd, 2012 at 1:07 PM ^
November 22nd, 2012 at 1:08 PM ^
November 22nd, 2012 at 1:10 PM ^
November 22nd, 2012 at 1:12 PM ^
...is just the mirror-image of what one sees on the Ohio State message boards. That is, it is presumed on both sides that Brady Hoke's policy is like a loyalty oath, and anyone who violates it is a traitor. Like Michigan is a special case, not just applying its own policy. Michigan fans seem to love it, and Ohio State fans loathe it.
Not that I care greatly one way or another (I'd prefer to see Conley at Michigan, rather than OSU), but I am really looking forward to the day that somebody gives Michigan an oral commit, then takes a competing visit (losing his "spot," such as it is) and then recommits to Michigan either before or even after National Signing Day, when the shcolarship numbers shake out favorably, just to undermine all of this mythical 19th century "loyalty" stuff.
November 22nd, 2012 at 1:15 PM ^
Actually you are wrong. If the situation was reversed OSU fans would be wishing ACL tears on the kid. Speaking of ACL tears does anyone know how Blake is recovering? I can't wait for him to be back.
November 22nd, 2012 at 1:20 PM ^
I love Hoke's no-visit policy.
November 25th, 2012 at 7:11 PM ^
I'm not sure you understand what it does.
November 22nd, 2012 at 1:46 PM ^
Section 1, I'm not on board with the juvenile flaming of Conley that's going on here, but why is it so reprehensible for a coaching staff to protect itself in recruiting? This isn't 1972 in the unlimited scholarships era—there's only so many at a position that any coaching staff can give out, and accepting a verbal commitment from a particular kid logically means they have one less to give to some other potential recruit, who will very likely turn to another school in response. If the original kid then starts looking at other schools again, then the coaching staff is in danger of not having any suitable fallback options. The message from the beginning has been "Don't give us a commitment unless you're damn sure this is where you want to be, because we'll be counting on you if you do. If you're not sure, then don't commit." What you seem to regard as a 1950s-McCarthy-era "Loyalty Oath" is nothing more than a coaching staff having reasonable expectations about the decisions of these high school kids.
November 22nd, 2012 at 2:07 PM ^
I actually don't mind Hoke's policy. I am perfectly fine with him running things they way he has.
But I don't think it is about some exalted notion of loyalty. It is about managing shcolarship numbers and expectations, in the highly regulated and artificial world of collegiate recruiting. Essentially, it is all about getting to the best class of 22 or 23 or 24 or whatever-number. And how you do that, the best way possible. Nothing to do with "Michigan fergodssakes," which is how I think our rivals view the policy.
Just to be totally clear: The Hoke policy, as near as it has been formalized, is that if Gareon Conely takes a visit to OSU, his scholarship will no longer be held based on his oral commitment. His scholarship will be shopped around. As far as I am aware, most recruiting gurus interpret the situation to mean that "that ship has sailed, sunk, whatever" in the immortal words of Thomas Wilcher. But the formal Hoke policy is NOT that Conley is kicked out in any real sense. And if, perchance, by February, Michigan strikes out on McQuay, Treadwell and every other quality WR/DB to rival Gareon Conley, it seems to me that there's no reason not to reoffer Conley if he isn't already a Buckeye by then.
November 22nd, 2012 at 8:09 PM ^
November 23rd, 2012 at 12:28 PM ^
Not disputing your statement above, but I thought that Dawson's offer was pulled when he took the Florida visit. Maybe I am wrong.
November 23rd, 2012 at 12:51 PM ^
Yes, Dawson's offer was pulled.
November 22nd, 2012 at 2:28 PM ^
Section 1 responded, but I took it as criticizing a lot of the responses on here, the "Well we only want Michigan-men here, and if you're not 100%, then good riddance"
November 23rd, 2012 at 12:32 PM ^
Don, you hit the nail right on the head with this comment. Please copy this, and re-insert into the next post about a commit visiting another university!
November 22nd, 2012 at 1:52 PM ^
If you think this is anywhere close to the reaction you would see on an OSU board, you haven't been to many OSU boards.