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|3 years 8 weeks ago||Great work and well deserved||
Great work and well deserved thanks Tom!
|3 years 9 weeks ago||Another reason to expect statistical improvement by the D||
Besides the datapoints listed, is that Borges' offense will also help the D by consuming more clock and by having fewer turnovers. Didn't see it mentioned but then again I just skimmed.
|3 years 12 weeks ago||Do these medicals free up||
Do these medicals free up space for a bigger recruiting class this year?
|3 years 13 weeks ago||Damn looks like ND is where||
Damn looks like ND is where we want to be in a year or two, except for the QB issues. Looking like we'll be major underdogs for this one.
|3 years 13 weeks ago||This kid is eloquent and||
This kid is eloquent and smart. But wow, those kind words for Hoke bode so well for this team in the future. Hoke's down home magnetism and Mattison being one of the best recruiters in the nation bode so very, very well.
I'll take 7-5 this season with the parts we have, and hope for better things in 2012, with the sky being the limit in 2013 and thereafter.
|3 years 14 weeks ago||The ideal mascot would be no||
The ideal mascot would be no mascot, but if we DID have to have one, ideally it would be a cross between:
1. I hate to admit it, but Sparty in terms of brawn -no wussy mascot like the ridiculous Penn State skinny lion mascots running around.
2. Sonic the hedgehog - closest mascot-like character to a wolverine.
3. Six Zero's "entitled" mascot above - put him in a feaux suit and give him giant, sponge spectacles so he can relate to the UM student nerds we all were and some continue to be.
|3 years 15 weeks ago||This is the equivalent of a||
This is the equivalent of a bank robber's punishment being to only have to give the money back... What color is the sky in their world...
|3 years 15 weeks ago||and the fact that we had so||
and the fact that we had so many turn overs, and 2 mike hart goal line fumbles, made it that much more impressive. tim tebow's only bowl loss. the d was bizaare that game. one play getting torched by percy harvin, the next, looking monstrous in shutting down and rushing tebow.
such a twilight zone game, but hell yeah, the result was great.
|3 years 19 weeks ago||Seriously though, the all||
Seriously though, the all Maize from the 60s is the one that makes my eyes bleed.
|3 years 19 weeks ago||That diatribe by his lawyer||
That diatribe by his lawyer amounts to one word: GUILTY.
|3 years 19 weeks ago||The brighter shade of yellow||
The brighter shade of yellow is a better look, which is probably why it has gone that way over the years, but not sure what your point is with regard to throwbacks.
|3 years 19 weeks ago||OSU's competitive advantage||
OSU's competitive advantage mostly stems from being the only big time program in the fourth best football recruiting state in the nation. No other college football team enjoys such a commensurate luxury. Florida recruits split among 3 big programs California recruits split between 4 Pac 10 schools. Texas is the closest match for this type of competitive advantage, although Texas does have A&M to compete with, and an occasional Houstion. Cincinnatti is no Texas A&M.
Decades ago when MIchigan was a more prominent industrial state relative to most others, before the auto industry collapse that started in the 70s, Ohio's talent edge was probably not as prevalent as it has been this last decade as Michigan's population and public money for sports programs, has declined.
Further, Michigan has always had a marked disadvantage by having to share an inferior football state talent wise, with MSU, thus losing the Lawrence Thomases and Gholstons and Bullocks, thanks to entrenched MSU leaning high school coaches, and MSU fan bases. We have a smaller pie, and we have to split it. OSU enjoys their big pie mostly to themselves.
Factors like Bo, UM's rich tradition, the UM NFL football factory, all help even the talent ledger with OSU over the last 20 years, as kids from all over the country would flock to UM as the NFL turnstile it was.
Then the mess that was RichRod, cratering so much, but also instantly cratering the NFL factory image UM had, by introducing the spread and recruting all these midgets.
Yes, OSU's violations probably demonstrate a more inviting, laid back environment for high school kids, and this probably did give OSU some slight recruiting edge, but that is but a drop in the bucket of the bigger picture and the bigger reasons OSU has an edge when it comes to landing talent.
Hoke and these sanctions will give us a needed window to restore the balance - UM as the NFL factory attracting top national talent, in order to counteract OSU's inherent local recruiting advantage.
|3 years 21 weeks ago||Have you been in a cave the||
Have you been in a cave the last 8 years bro? Qualifying the level of fun associated with ANY imminent win over OSU is silly. Take whatever you can get right now and be happy, and have this conversation after a 4 year win streak.
|3 years 21 weeks ago||yup||
Precisely right. Take a snap shot of last year. If Tressel plays by the books as he should have, does OSU win the BIg 10 without those 6 players? Not a chance. Does it beat Arkansas to snap it's 0-9 SEC streak? No way.
My favorite part of all of this will be when OSU is required to vacate last year, thus returning them to Oferville (0 for 9) vs the SEC.
Funny how they were trying to line up a home and home with Venderbilt.... Vanderbilt... Wonder why.
|3 years 21 weeks ago||HUR HUR. ME CAVE MAN. ME||
HUR HUR. ME CAVE MAN. ME SAY FUCK OHIO. FUCK THE CHINA I'M A BULL.
I hope you aren't the same guy who gets up in arms at the slightest UM neg on these boards during the season, like Queen Elizabeth monitoring table eitquette. My guess is you are. =\
|3 years 21 weeks ago||TX, not NY||
TX, not NY
|3 years 21 weeks ago||I have no love for Ohio. I||
I have no love for Ohio. I grew up on Farmington Hills and lived in Ann Arbor 8 years for undergrad and law school, and I agree towns like Toledo and Columbus are malignant. Cleveland is bunk too, countered by Detroit I'd imagine.
You all crap on Ohio - representative of a large segment of Michigan fans - but we're talking football here. Not parks, rivers, sewage or amusement parks, even though yeah Cedar Point rocks. One thing the shit hole you all despise has going for it is what, the fourth best football recruiting state behind FL, NY and CA, that happens to have fed our beloved football team with many of our best players ever.
Yet you shit on it indiscriminately, not heeding the chilling effect that may have on a recruit. yet God forbid someone question the UM football program on these boards mid-recruiting season, then they are a pariah for doing the slightest irrelevant thing that may impact recruiting. Funny. Pot meet kettle.
"99% of Ohioans are Buckeye fans anyway..."? My point exactly. Perhaps if UM fans focus hate toward Columbus instead of Ohio, we can all do our tiny part to help our team recruit that state down south that much better by not having Ohio recruits thinking they're going to feed a fan base that makes fun of the home of their fathers, mothers and siblings.
|3 years 21 weeks ago||It's painfully obvious why||
It's painfully obvious why Dantonio is such a jerk and Izzo is not. Izzo is genuinely content at his job. Dantonio on the other hand, is now and will continue to be miserable until he becomes Ohio State's head coach. The man has a hard on for the Buckeyes more than anyone. His time in East Lansing to him is nothing but a proxy run at competing against Michigan, but deep down he's miserable at not having the recruiting muscle he would at Ohio State. He's enjoyed the ride that came with the RR transition melt down, but he, like the rest of us, knows that time has passed, and odds of things returning to normal (i.e., UM crushing MSU consistently) is imminent. This will be his last strong year before his team returns to Big 10 mediocrity, where it will stay for years, resulting in his ultimate dismissal. His one hope is for Tressel to get the shit can, for Meyers to balk, and for the Buckeye job to fall in his lap.
I hate Dantonio now, I'll hate him twice as much if that ever happens.
|3 years 28 weeks ago||Dear heavens... after 20||
Dear heavens... after 20 years of surfing the net I thought I'd seen it all and had no room left to be disturbed, and then I scrolled half way down the Beano Cook google search...
|3 years 28 weeks ago||Just got emotional over this||
Just got emotional over this at work today. I used to see Vada at the UM UGLi all the time in undergrad. He was the most noticeable football player on campus to me because of how outgoing and effusive he was. Always with a smile, always there studying and messing around like the rest of us.
Saw him last year tailgating before the ND game and tossed out a "Vada Murray!" at him as he walked by and he nodded and smiled. I knew he was sick and I thought that small gesture would let him know he was still a star in our eyes.
I think of how I'm 42, having just gotten married and about to start my family now, and how wrong it is that such a great guy was only given 43 years.
We really do need to cherish what we have, when we have it. We cherished you in life Vada and we cherish you today. Rest in peace bro.
|3 years 30 weeks ago||Disagree||
Disagree big time with Brian on this one. How many points did we put up against OSU last year with "all the offensive pieces"? 7. After our first drive, how many did we put up against Miss St. while they were scoring 52? 7. Against MSU? 17. In just about all the key games, the "high powered" offense shat a brick. If they had averaged 30 against those teams then Brian would have a leg to stand on here, but they didn't, so personally I have no problem watching Hoke and Borges work the offense into their system with the pieces they have.
|3 years 35 weeks ago||Your? YOU'RE obviously not a||
Your? YOU'RE obviously not a UM grad... Go neg a Buckeye fan you backwards assed mouth breather.
|3 years 40 weeks ago||To the sad, negative nellies.||
What a giant pack of douche bags we are as a fan base. Look at how many of you are so damn negative. First you shit all over RichRod for three years and drive him out of town without giving him a chance, now you turn your rabig 'holier than thou' negativity onto Brandon for, God forbid, actually reaching out to fans to give them an update while asking them to rally behind the new coach. The whole point of the man's message was please leave the negativity at the door. Get positive with whomever we hire - it will do wonders for recruiting, for the media, and for any chance the team has to resume it's winning ways. But no, just a giant pack of negative dicks, lining up again - one after the other. Seriously, go root for the another team. UM football doesn't need you.
|3 years 42 weeks ago||Realize Friedgen was let go||
Realize Friedgen was let go before the bowl game so that datapoint is irrelevant toward his firing.
|3 years 42 weeks ago||How can you possible call it||
How can you possible call it insane? If we win 50-0 vs an 8-4 SEC team, and go 8-5 after last season's 5-7, especially after all that has happened, do you really think there is any chance RR is fired? If we lose 50-0 do you think there is any chance RR is kept?
The call is a close one for Brandon. Who would deny that? It's a close call on RR either way right? Or am I wrong on saying it's a close call.
|3 years 42 weeks ago||You project upon the mind of||
You project upon the mind of any new poster that the only reason they make a new post is because they think they have a great or amazing idea, and thus they are worth negging. Did you ever think perhaps, that UM fans might also make posts so they can hear other fans' thoughts on the matter they raise? That was all I was after really. This game seems like the deciding factor in RR"s hiring/firing, I wanted to know other fans' thoughts.
What does "cc" mean? I have no idea. I've been following UM football since 1979, so I know plenty about that.
If there is some etiquette, or some need to put "cc" whatever that is before posts that don't purport to provide newsworthy content, why not ask Brian to put a link to such etiquette, and fans like myself would be happy to oblige. But the way some of you front this forum etiquette negging at older fans like me, is a major turn off and a poor representation of the Michigan fan base on this, probably UM's highest traffic blog.
|3 years 42 weeks ago||Disagree. You really think if||
Disagree. You really think if we blow out Miss State like 45-17 RR won't be back even if Harbaugh is interested? I'd give it 75% chance RR's back if we win. 85% if we win by more than 10 points. 95% if we win by more than 20 points.
|3 years 42 weeks ago||I didn't see any other post||
I didn't see any other post out there with the angle that, given how close the call on RR has become after this year, the final weighing factor just might be this bowl game. I think it adds intrigue to approach watching the game this way - RR"s players playing not only to win a game, but to save his job one way or the other.
Not that I care much, but consider stepping away from your computer for a few weeks, if you've gotten to the point where you waste oxygen negging your fellow UM fans. I know it's been a disappointing year, but you need to channel your aggression more appropriately.
|3 years 42 weeks ago||Mike Martin, Dave Brandon, Ed||
Mike Martin, Dave Brandon, Ed Martin... sorry for getting my names wrong. I corrected it I think.
|3 years 47 weeks ago||bah||
Agree RR should be back next year.
1. Offense. Compare this offense to our offense two years ago. Don't forget that this has been with Vincent Smith as the feature back - small, slow, and can't shed blocks to save his life. Just imagine the damage this offense will do with even better personnel next year with the D&D (Denard/Dee) show? And more experience across the board?
2. Defense. Simply, cannot possibly get worse. Cannot. This was the nader. We will never in our lifetimes see a worse UM D than we saw this year, may it R.I.P. Why? Obvious reasons like maturity, experience, another year in the weight room, but also, let's face it - RR knows if he doesn't turn the D around next year, his job will be toast. He has completed 50% of the plan - offense. Now he must complete the other 50%, otherwise he is gone next year, and everyone, even Brian, will agree there.
3. Special teams. See 2. Cannot possibly get worse, and again, I expect RR to take this very seriously in the off season.
4. Turnovers. This is arguably the only major liability of RR's offense, and something that also must be given attention.
We will end up 7-6 or 8-5 this year, and next year will see improvements across the board. I am excited for next year to see if RR can fix the D. All of Wolverine nation will be focusing on this next year, and it will be the single most important future datapoint defining either the success or failure of RR's tenure at UM, because the deadliness of the offense is going nowhere.