"You lie in recruiting a bunch. That's just kind of part of it." - Holgorsen
It's one thing to be candid and honest.
It's another to arm your enemy with candor and honesty.
That's exactly what West Virginia coach Dana Holgorsen has done in saying that lying to recruits is business as usual in college coaching. According to the Twitter feed of the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette's West Virginia beat writer, Stephen J. Nesbitt, Holgorsen said: "You lie in recruiting a bunch. That's just kind of part of it. You become a salesman."
August 11th, 2014 at 4:04 PM ^
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August 11th, 2014 at 4:51 PM ^
Which will help more...this bit or having Tony Gibson as his defensive coordinator?
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August 11th, 2014 at 5:36 PM ^
I would imagine lying is how you actually convince kids to go to West Virginia
August 11th, 2014 at 4:08 PM ^
Well now, he just poisoned his well.
August 11th, 2014 at 5:20 PM ^
Not only that, he shit where he eats, he shot himself in the foot, and he stepped on his dick, and he did it all at the same time, which is a real achievement.
August 11th, 2014 at 6:31 PM ^
Did he not also completely shit the bed?
August 11th, 2014 at 7:17 PM ^
Thanks for pointing out that glaring omission. Yes, he shat the bed, and he also pissed his pants, screwed the pooch, and augured in.
August 11th, 2014 at 6:52 PM ^
August 11th, 2014 at 7:27 PM ^
Back on the USS Berkeley, we would have awarded him the Carmen Miranda Award for "doing the Flamenco on his crank."
August 11th, 2014 at 4:09 PM ^
Urban come out and say this. Then we'd actually benefit from this brutal honesty.
August 11th, 2014 at 4:09 PM ^
Urban come out and say this. Then we'd actually benefit from this brutal honesty.
August 11th, 2014 at 5:28 PM ^
Urban is worse.
August 11th, 2014 at 7:32 PM ^
Urban would lie about lying.
August 11th, 2014 at 4:10 PM ^
I had to post it twice. My bad.
August 11th, 2014 at 4:11 PM ^
August 11th, 2014 at 4:41 PM ^
Slurban? Really?
August 11th, 2014 at 5:43 PM ^
More like Mnurban Flpeyer, amirite?
August 11th, 2014 at 7:11 PM ^
I'm not following, please help me.
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August 11th, 2014 at 4:16 PM ^
PLEEEEASE tell me the next sentence from Holgo began "Take Urban Meyer, for example..."
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"I mean everyone kills people, murders people. Steals from you, steals from me. Whatever."
-Dana Holgorson
August 11th, 2014 at 4:56 PM ^
I mean, who am I to judge?
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"You'll be expected to attend classes 5 days a week."
August 11th, 2014 at 5:05 PM ^
you only have classes scheduled Mon, Wed, Fri?
August 11th, 2014 at 5:09 PM ^
He ain't here to play skool...
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August 11th, 2014 at 5:21 PM ^
The island or the house?
August 11th, 2014 at 6:00 PM ^
are those guys asking the girls to make a 4-5 year commitment or just a one night commitment?
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August 12th, 2014 at 10:43 AM ^
the song Paradise by the Dashboard Light by Meatloaf.
August 12th, 2014 at 12:50 AM ^
Does she play for alabama or west virginia?
August 11th, 2014 at 4:31 PM ^
some coaches are just trying to get fired
August 11th, 2014 at 4:33 PM ^
The point is to make your school look as appealing as possible. That means emphasizing the positive. To some people, that's lying. To others, it's "spin" or caveat emptor. To me, the best salesperson doesn't hide the negatives, but addresses them in a way that is straightforward but optimistic. It's harder when the product you're selling isn't that great. To Holgorsen, saying only things that are factually true, but not saying all that you're thinking, may be "lying." To me, it's skillfully promoting something you believe in.
As an aside, I'm guessing that Hoke is able to "sell" recruits without the need to lie, or even do much "spinning". The negatives are on-field results the last couple years. Those can't be hidden. The positives are, first, the fantastic education and chance for success off the field. Second, the recent recruiting success leading to likely on-field improvement. Third is the culture and environment where recruits feel at home.
August 11th, 2014 at 4:52 PM ^
Real recognize real.
August 11th, 2014 at 6:13 PM ^
August 12th, 2014 at 12:27 PM ^
To me, the best salesperson doesn't hide the negatives, but addresses them in a way that is straightforward but optimistic.True, but in Holgorsen's case, it's probably hard to be straightforward and optimistic because the school is in, you know, West Virginia. What's the positive spin here? "You like moonshine son? Hell, I can get you a case of the best 'shine you've ever tasted!"
August 12th, 2014 at 3:23 PM ^
I was driving through WV on a Sunday afternoon, noting just how beautiful it is. Perhaps the most gorgeous State in the Union. I really needed to piss, however, so pulled over at a rest stop. Finding one wasn't a problem, as I could smell the stop before I saw the signs for it, and the "rest stop" was a line of 4 or 5 portapotties. They looked and smelled about like what you would expect for day 3 of an outdoor music festival.
The interesting part was all of the pickup trucks lined up outside of it, with whole families sitting in the back of the trucks, chatting with other families in other pickup trucks, drinking beer and eating snacks. Apparently, Sunday afternoon is spent socializing at rest stops in WV.
I truly wish I were making this up.
Beautiful state. Some nice people. Weird-ass culture.
August 11th, 2014 at 5:07 PM ^
When you are recruiting for WVU, lying is a necessity. Otherwise, no one would go there unless they didn't have any other D1 offers.
August 11th, 2014 at 5:10 PM ^
The first step to recovery is...
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