ThadMattasagoblin

July 16th, 2015 at 7:36 PM ^

Students just don't care much about football these days than they did in the past. It's happening at other places too like Alabama. You can see this with a half full student section for the first quarter of every game. While it's blasphemy for those of us on here to miss snaps, many in the university just go to the games to meet people and socialize rather than live and die with the game like we do.

Wolverine Devotee

July 16th, 2015 at 7:43 PM ^

As sad is it sounds, my mood and the way I feel life is going is based on how Michigan is doing in sports. I feel so tired and more like I'm sleepwalking through the next week or days after a loss in Football or Basketball. Until the next win comes, I'm in this zombie-like state. Priorities.

Wolverine Devotee

July 16th, 2015 at 7:54 PM ^

Football carries the most weight for me but the other sports being good have cushioned the blows. However only two fall sports making the postseason last year was the worst Fall season ever, possibly.

wahooverine

July 16th, 2015 at 9:15 PM ^

WD ^this is truth, but I'll add that your perspective changes when you get older even without kids. I used to feel the same way about wins, losses and the "justice" of it all. Jubilation at victories and outrage and depression at losses.  Emotions tied directly to the outcomes of games and even plays. I got in fights at stadiums and been kicked out of bars.   I'm in my mid 30's now, unmarried, no kids so I still have time to watch every snap of every game and most bball games too. I'm just as passionate, but after a debilitating loss I'll get over it after about a day or even an hour.   I think it's because of the realization that it's just a game and in the long run it has zero bearing on my life. It's my favorite form of entertainment, and it's important to me because it's associated with a tribal identity and memories of the time I spent at Michigan (and UVA) but the outcome of any game or season has no tangible consequence on my life (I'm not playing or coaching afterall), and realizing this was pretty freeing.  That said, when I'm a few bourbons deep, I'm still yelling and screaming at the stadium or tv as loud as anyone.  Go Blue!

GotBlueOnMyMind

July 16th, 2015 at 8:31 PM ^

That isn't true at all. Young fans are just as passionate as ever, the problem is that the environment just isn't as much fun as it was 20-30 years ago. The stupid, fun things that we hear about from the 90's would no longer be tolerated today. I saw the same thing happen at Yost. During my time, the administration came in and clamped down on the student section, destroying much of what made games at Yost so unique and enjoyable. I imagine similar happened at the Big House. I know that hearing stories from older alums about the gameday environment always made me jealous. When the stadium atmosphere has become a bland, neutered shadow of its former self, no different from any other sporting event, the cost balancing begins to tip toward watching the game on tv at your house with your friends.

814 East U

July 16th, 2015 at 9:07 PM ^

Out of state students. Students from Florida or California probably don't give a shit about Minnesota, but kids who grew up Michigan fans love all the games. Just my theory. I know out of state students do support the team but a kid from Michigan gets a little more excited for MSU or PSU or Wisconsin than an international student or a student from NY on average.

814 East U

July 16th, 2015 at 10:59 PM ^

I think Parents play a role as well. My dad and I went to and still attend various sporting events. I've had so many great experiences and memories that I will take my kids to sporting events.

Some of my friends have never been to a Lions game and I've had season tickets for 15 years. If you were lucky enough to go to games for whatever team it really forms a passion early on.

NotADuck

July 16th, 2015 at 9:18 PM ^

As a 23 year old guy who prefers College Football to any other sport I'd like to say something about us millenials not "living and dying" with the sport.

I'll start by saying that there was a time in my life when sports meant everything to me.  Throughout my high school and early college years I watched sports religiously.  I never missed a MIchigan football game and I watched any of the other games I could.  I even watched MAC games on Wednesday and Thursday nights.  "Toledo @ Central Michigan?  Hell yeah I'll watch that!  It's football!"  That was my mindset until about 3 years ago when I realized what I had done to myself by dedicating my life to something that doesn't directly affect me or anyone I knew.  When I would hang out with my friends I had nothing to talk about, nor could I contribute to the conversation.  My intense love of sports, while beneficial in high school, hurt me in social situations throughout college.

So you see, i used to be like that.  I used to stay all the way through a game becuase to leave midway through a 40-0 blowout was blasphemy of the highest level to me.  I used to follow all of my favorite teams religiously.  But when i realized how detrimental that was to not only my social life but to my life in general I cut back.  Over the past few years I've focused on improving myself in every way possible.  Physically, mentally, emotionally.  I used to go crazy when the Wolverines lost.  Now I have more important things to devote energy to than getting mad about a game.  I still follow my teams a little bit and I obviously still enjoy Michigan athletics a great deal (otherwise I wouldn't be here) but I've realized that there are better things for me to do with my time than to watch a football game and all of my friends are the same way.  Why do we feel this way about the game we all know and love?  The answer is in the question.  At the end of the day it is just a game.  An entertaining game to be certain, but a game nonetheless and one that has no direct affect on my life or anyone I know.  I don't live and die with a game.

kgh10

July 16th, 2015 at 11:52 PM ^

This captures my feelings exactly. Football was my life in undergrad (and it showed in my mediocre grades :/). When we had away games I used to watch from 12pm even if there were only MAC games on to the end of the West coast matches sometimes ending at 1am EST, like when Colt Brennan was at Hawaii. Back then I didn't watch NFL much, but that's still half of the weekend just watching football. Now I get one college game (the UM game) and one pro game (Pats) and would often turn it off if it was a blow out. Even that is 8 hours of the weekend. I liken it to how you become more specialized in your field when you move up in your career. Sure I don't know nearly as much as I used to outside of my own teams, but I'm still crazy about UM football.

snarling wolverine

July 17th, 2015 at 11:11 AM ^

My intense love of sports, while beneficial in high school, hurt me in social situations throughout college.

But this is kind of the point of the article. I went to U-M a decade before you and I wouldn't say my fandom hurt me in social situations. Sure, there were some times when you had to tone it down, but in general you could talk U-M sports with almost anyone. I get the sense that this isn't as true anymore.  Of course, our mediocre football results have probably contributed.

xxxxNateDaGreat

July 16th, 2015 at 7:46 PM ^

you ready cannot discount the rise of HDTVs and the increase of televised games against cupcakes. Of you have a lab to do or an exam on Monday, why not cram in a study session before the game or maybe sleep in and study afterwards while you are still sober before going out and hitting the bar?

maizenbluenc

July 17th, 2015 at 9:11 AM ^

or exams to cram for? We even had to use this thing called a typewriter to type the final version of our papers - if you screwed up or wanted to make a changed - you had to re-type every page after the change (freshman year, my sophomore roommate had an Apple IIe).

Those demands haven't changed. I don't think that's it.

I am betting the fact that you can watch every Michigan game on TV has a lot more to do with it. There was a time when only two or three a season were televised, and those were ND or another big non-conference game (Miami, Colorado, Washington), Ohio State and whoever the hot Little 8 team was that year: the games you wanted to be at live. Between the convenience of staying at home for snoozers, and the slowed pace of the live experience, ESPN and BTN are why there is a less compelling reason to go to games.

maizenblue87

July 16th, 2015 at 7:48 PM ^

My kids are millennials. I should ask them. For me, I was a hardcore football fan as a student. I went to the games to watch football, winning football. While I did the occasional wave in the stands, I was usually oblivious to the fact there were 100,000 people around me.



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UMxWolverines

July 16th, 2015 at 7:55 PM ^

Wow you mean even college students' biggest complaints are similar to the rest of the crowds biggest complaints? Yet most in charge of football programs decide to do nothing about it and just build more unneceessary crap around and in stadiums and think it will solve the problem. Reduce ticket prices and people will flock. I don't get it. Hopefully Hackett gets it as much as it seems like he does.

LSAClassOf2000

July 16th, 2015 at 8:10 PM ^

At Michigan, when the student government asked undergraduates why they go to football games, what they found clashed with conventional wisdom: Michigan’s students simply didn’t care that much about mobile connectivity. In-game Wi-Fi wasn’t as essential as lower ticket prices or better seat locations. Among the seven possible improvements to the game-day experience, in fact, students ranked cell reception last.

If accurate, then it is kind of refreshing to see that the concerns are common to those of us who are older than the students (especially those of us who were students when there was not much need to worry about wirelss connectivity because what was that anyway). I do agree with others though, the solution seems to be in making the experience more palatable from start to finish, inside and outside the stadium, more than making sure people can livetweet the game necessarily. 

kb

July 16th, 2015 at 8:11 PM ^

the same as it does to everyone else. People love to write these articles about generational differences in attitudes and preferences, but the fact is that generations if people are more similar than they are different.

gwkrlghl

July 16th, 2015 at 8:23 PM ^

I think the 'commercialization' of CFB has done more damage than media people will ever exist.

When students get to build something organically (Yost, Cameron Crazies, etc.) it really is sustained by itself. I think all the money and TV and etc. have done some damage to the organic love people had for their programs. Seems like some of the 'aura' is gone.

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MGoBender

July 16th, 2015 at 8:40 PM ^

TV TIMEOUTS

Seriously, that is the #1 gameday experience detractor.  Problem is, schools won't even put it on a survey since they know it is terrible but they don't want to fight the networks and demand shorter and fewer TV timeouts.

BTW: Fewer TV timeouts = less of a need for Internet