Would you miss the Huskers?
So, OU President David Boren thinks the Big 12 should look to growing up to, well, 12. The article at the worldwide leader indicates one of the options for growth might be taking Nebraska back, in addition to the usual speculation of Cincy, BYU, and others.
I think our obvious vote on this board would be to give them Maryland and Rutgers. Or do we hand over all 4 of our recent additions?
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I completely supported their addition to the B1G in a way that I haven't for Maryland and Rutgers.
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Take Chicago back, in that case!
You scored our first TD and it was with a flip no less....and then you designed the Michigan Union and the Union buildings at MSU and Purdue -- your opinion must be solid!
I like the suggestion about Sparty, but I think it might be more fun to give up Nebraska, put Indiana in the West, and give Ohio State a "little brother:" Cincinnati.
No one would be dumb enough to take Rutgers off our hands now... unfortunately. A garbage school with garbage sports teams in a garbage location to fill a supposed TV market need. Just plain garbage.
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I think he likes Rutgers.
More like Buttgers.
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The only way losing Nebraska would not hurt is if the Big Ten acquired a Missouri or Virginia Tech like school and shifted the division's again which is obviously not anything that we want to see again after the Legends and Leaders debacle.
Maybe we could trade Rutgers for VaTech???!!!??? If we got the ACC really drunk first.
Seriously... how had would it be to get the ACC drunk?
It wouldn't be like losing Ohio State or even Minnesota or Iowa, but I am glad Nebraksa is in the Big Ten and think they have a lot to offer.
Like a lot of people around here, though, Maryland and Rutgers could leave tonight and I'd be simultaneously celebrating and realizing just how little I actually care where they end up.
I agree. NU fits perfectly. This nostalgia for the old B1G (-Nebraska and Penn State) is idiotic. They contribute to our profile and prevent us from being a crappier ACC. I also like Maryland.
I used to like Penn State, but the cult-like atmosphere around their football program (exposed by the apalling reaction of their fanbase to the Sandusky scandal) made me wish they had never joined the conference.
Fun fact: Penn State was admitted to the league by a narrow 7-3 vote, and Michigan is one of the three schools that voted against them.
Don't you think that Notre Dame has blue-balled the B1G just about enough?
Yes, but with how ND has partially joined the ACC and conferences and conference championships seem very helpful for getting into the playoff, it seems things have changed. The thing about all the repeated attempts to get ND in the past is that nothing was any different year after year. Realignment and the playoff especially seem to have changed things. Would be great if we could replace Nebraska with ND. No idea about how open ND really is to it though.
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I hate the idea of a 16-team conference. The West is barely a part of our conference anymore right now. Hopefully will feel a bit different with more conference games.
And they are not even all that hot any more. Not at all worth the wait and frustration.
And all that was 20 years ago.
Now she's old and divorced with 3 kids living at home. She keeps leading on that loser middle-aged balding ACC guy who keeps trying to rewind the clock 20 years. It's all very pathetic.
She's college football's Cougar. Do not want.
I think Nebraska is a great fit for the Big Ten.
Whomever from the Big 12 implied that getting Nebraska back as a possibility a dreamer. The problems that drove Nebraska out of the Big 12 in the first place aren't fixed. Regardless, they just aren't going back, period. Why in the hell would they?
The Big 12 options are Wyoming, Colorado State and the such. The Big 12 (Texas) made their bed, now they don't want to sleep in it.
They would also be leaving serious money on the table, probably in excess of $10mm per year.
Plus the academic prestige, plus no Texas.
Why in the hell would they ever want to go back? This is just some Big 12 moran floating trial balloons. Everyone was trying to leave the Big 12, and Arkansas, Colorado, Nebraska, Texas A&M and Missouri succeeded.
Did this guy ever say why anyone would now want to JOIN the Big 12? Of course not. They will have to do what they did after the mass exodus. Take the Southwest Conference rejects (and then that weren't even rejects but never weres) of the world.
Well, at least they were dominating the North division when they were there. And I think they can recruit better in the Big 12 because of the Texas connection.
What does the academic prestige actually do to Nebraska in practical terms?
I agree though all the reasons they left in the first place seem the same, mainly Texas.
EDIT: "As others have noted, significant revelation today about the Big 12's TV deal. If everyone's share is guaranteed, expansion far more viable" - Stewart Mandel's twitter
"What does academic prestige do for an academic institution?"
No, that's not my question. I worded it very poorly. What I should have said is how does being in the AAU raise their prestige? Does it actually make them a better university or have better professors? It seems a school joining the AAU just gets to now say it's an AAU member because you fit some criteria.
Anyway, Nebraska isn't in the AAU. They were kicked out in 2011. So I guess the B1G doesn't actually have those standards anymore. Is Michigan really worse off because of that?
http://espn.go.com/blog/bigten/post/_/id/26078/nebraska-loses-aau-status
Wikipedia's AAU page also lists them as former members so I guess nothing has changed.
It seems Stanford and Cal do fine with their academic reputations without worrying about their football teams playing other football teams who attend schools that aren't as prestigious.
group set up through the Universities to get government research grants for the Member schools. The money that's associated with that makes the Athletic dollars seem like small potatoes(8.4 billion/year), and is a benefit to all the the B1G schools. It's why the ND faculty was so pissed off(they voted unanimously to join) when ND turned down the B1G invite back in the late '90's or early 2000's or whenever that was, and it's also the biggest reason why Texas has been mentioned as a realistic possibiltiy should the B1G ever actually try to expand that far south, they want the research money.
The University of Chicago is also still affiliated with the B1G schools for the CIC money.
Thanks, I couldn't remember the other organization's name and didn't have time to research it. Of the two, I think the CIC is a bigger deal than the AAU. The CIC is a big benefit to any school admitted into the conference.
Is there any chance Hopkins will be invited into the CIC now that they're affiliated with the conference?
/ducks
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I've heard more than one Husker describe Texas as a cancer within the Big 12. Unless that got fixed somehow (like TX leaving for another conference), I don't think NE would even consider going back.
And even if that were the case, I'm not sure they'd want to leave the B1G. Yes, they're a natural fit: The soul of the B1G is rooted in the Midwest.
Nebraska excepted, the problem is that expansion has ruined what is great about being in a conference. If we never play Rutgers again, I couldn't care less. But I miss playing Wisconsin every year.
Let's find out!