Would You Be Satisfied With The Season if UM Won Out?
So hypothetical let's say the team can build on the positive things we saw against PSU and wins out including a miraculous upset of OSU. Would you be satisfied with the season if that happened, even if it did not result in a conference title? I lean towards yes because 10-2 is a good record given the schedule, they would have beat all their rivals, and at least changed a couple of the narratives surrounding the program coming into the year.
October 21st, 2019 at 12:12 PM ^
I mean, they should have though.
October 21st, 2019 at 12:00 PM ^
If they beat OSU, I couldn't care less about the rest of the games.
October 21st, 2019 at 12:02 PM ^
Idk, this is just too far to me. That is little brother thinking as someone else pointed out. And 6-6 in year 5 would not do any favors for recruiting even with a win over OSU.
October 21st, 2019 at 12:00 PM ^
Yes. 10-2 is a good season and that would mean 3-0 in rivalries.
October 21st, 2019 at 12:00 PM ^
Just beat OSU and I don’t care if UM is 10-2,9-3 or 8-4. Need to finish the year on a high note to help recruiting. These season ending swan dives just kill any recruiting momentum. Roster weaknesses are as much a factor as coaching. It’s hard to cover up thin areas on the roster. It’s a new area every year it seems.
October 21st, 2019 at 12:01 PM ^
As others have stated, yes. I'd even be content, hell ecstatic if the only remaining loss was to ND or MSU and we beat OSU at the end of it. That monkey has been on the back of this program for too long and would make a lot of people forget the woes along the way.
October 21st, 2019 at 12:01 PM ^
I'd be happy if M only beat MSU and OSU to finish out the season. Throw in ND and I'd be ectatic.
October 21st, 2019 at 12:01 PM ^
You "lean towards yes"?
That's some first-grade excellence-demanding.
October 21st, 2019 at 12:03 PM ^
I should worded as 100% satisfied, I am sure everyone who isn't a troll would be satisfied on some level.
October 21st, 2019 at 2:42 PM ^
You should be deliriously happy if you finish 10-2 with a win over Ohio State. "Lean towards yes" sounded deranged.
October 21st, 2019 at 12:10 PM ^
No joke. I'd be leaning so hard, I'd be falling on my head. Winning out would be an unmitigated success.
October 21st, 2019 at 12:04 PM ^
Wins over ND, MSU, and OSU? Yes, that would do just fine.
October 21st, 2019 at 12:05 PM ^
Yes. Beating all three rivals and ending the season in the top-10 seems good. It would also bode well for the future, since it would mean that the Gattisbaugh offense can work and be refined going forward.
October 21st, 2019 at 12:05 PM ^
Hell yea, MFer!
October 21st, 2019 at 12:06 PM ^
Hell, if our only other victory this season was beating OSU, I'd consider the season a success.
October 21st, 2019 at 12:06 PM ^
Hell yea, MFer!
October 21st, 2019 at 12:06 PM ^
We all saw the second half on Saturday night. If Michigan plays that level or better the rest of the way out, they have every reason to be in or win every game. No guarantees against ND or OSU even with that effort. MSU stands no chance if Michigan plays like that against them. If they win out, there is no question we should be happy. It would signify major wins, a program finally progressing, probably vindicate Harbaugh's choice of OC, and lead into a major bowl game that could be another big win and propel recruiting forward.
TL; DR: Yes, please.
October 21st, 2019 at 12:06 PM ^
MOTHER OF PEARL, yes
October 21st, 2019 at 12:07 PM ^
No-brainer yes, because beating OSU is on there.
The season isn't finished. Lose to ND, lose to OSU... that's four losses including most of our big games and another loss to OSU and a heartbreak after all the disappointment.
I'd have taken this deal before the season began, too.
Seeing it actually happen is a different story entirely.
October 21st, 2019 at 12:07 PM ^
I would take 10-2 with a victory over OSU over 11-1 with a loss to OSU.
October 21st, 2019 at 12:39 PM ^
Shit, at this point I would take 1-11 with a win against OSU over 11-1 with a loss to OSU.
October 21st, 2019 at 12:10 PM ^
Michigan is going to finish 8-4 but probably 7-5 this season.
Like many here, I'm already at Acceptance Station.
I suggest more of you hurry up and arrive here also.
It's better for your mental well-being.
Everything is going to be fine. I'm OK. You're OK.
October 21st, 2019 at 12:11 PM ^
MSU, OSU and Minny beat Penn St
Wisconsin beats OSU
Michigan wins out
10-2 with the tiebreaker over OSU
Beat Wisconsin in Indy
Hello CFP
October 21st, 2019 at 12:16 PM ^
So you're telling me there's a chance!
October 21st, 2019 at 12:17 PM ^
Don't need Penn State to lose three. If they lost to MSU and Penn State and OSU loses to Wisky Michigan wins a three way tiebreaker. Head to head is the first one, but they would all be 1-1 against each other and second tiebreaker would be record against teams in the division. UM would win that tiebreaker in that case.
October 21st, 2019 at 12:11 PM ^
If anyone says no they are as delusional as the OP.
October 21st, 2019 at 12:14 PM ^
How am I delusional? I didn't say that was going to happen, it was a hypothetical. Though I will say Illinois beating Wisky this weekend was almost just as improbable and look at what happened there.
October 21st, 2019 at 12:11 PM ^
I'd be happy.
October 21st, 2019 at 12:12 PM ^
Yes. Any more brain-busters?
October 21st, 2019 at 12:12 PM ^
Realistically I think it will come down to not losing to MSU and being competitive with OSU.
October 21st, 2019 at 12:12 PM ^
Can I be greedy and go for 11-2 with a bowl victory? That wouldn't be such a bad consolation prize. Also keeps the buzz around the program reasonably positive which is good for recruiting and some good momentum for heading into 2020.
October 21st, 2019 at 12:16 PM ^
100%.
Beat ND, MSU and OSU after starting the way they did? They would have picked themselves off the mat after getting stomped by Wisconsin and losing a heartbreaker vs PSU.
October 21st, 2019 at 12:17 PM ^
Beat Notre Dame, Michigan State and Ohio State? Fuck yeah!
October 21st, 2019 at 12:18 PM ^
Yes.
Not sure this will happen as OSU looks so strong. 10 - 3 is not out of the question, if we can beat Notre Dame next Saturday. "All" we would need to do then is beat MD, MSU and IN and win an inconsequential bowl game to get to 10 - 3 assuming an OSU loss.
I would be fine with that.
October 21st, 2019 at 12:20 PM ^
This is a no brainer isnt't it? I don't think any UM fan would complain over that result and something to build on for the future.
October 21st, 2019 at 12:22 PM ^
I think you underestimate the most negative of the fanbase if you don't think some would still be complaining.
October 21st, 2019 at 12:21 PM ^
Yes because that means wins over nd, msu, and osu
October 21st, 2019 at 12:22 PM ^
Give me wins against MSU and OSU and I'm good no matter what.
October 21st, 2019 at 12:23 PM ^
Very very very very very satisfied
October 21st, 2019 at 12:24 PM ^
ummm, hell yes!!!
and I think it's even possible. OSU being the obvious difficulty
October 21st, 2019 at 12:25 PM ^
Beyond satisfied. That means beating all three rivals, including what will likely be a top-3 OSU squad, and winning a major bowl game. 10-2 with a big-time win over OSU definitely gets UM into the NY6, and you win that game and end the year 11-2....well....it doesn't erase all of the bad, but man oh man does it shut a lot of critics up going into the offseason.
October 21st, 2019 at 12:27 PM ^
Last week was an inflection point.
I saw it in the coaching
I saw it in the players
I saw it in play calling
I saw it in execution
The better team lost after getting screwed early by the refs, but that was the first time since 2016 that I felt UM was heading in the right direction.
I would not at all be surprised if we win out, even beat that OSU machine. I think this program may have righted the ship yesterday.
October 21st, 2019 at 12:51 PM ^
The problem is that it's year 5. For year 5 in the tenure of a coach who was hailed as the second coming of Jesus, "getting punched in the mouth" in the first half of a big road game is not okay, especially when he's 0-4 against OSU and has yet to play for a B1G championship, let alone win one.
Think of it this way: If someone told you on December 29, 2014 that after four and a half seasons, Harbaugh will still be winless against OSU, will have gone 1-9 against top ten teams, and our B1G championship drought would be ongoing, would you be okay with that?
October 21st, 2019 at 12:28 PM ^
No I wouldn't be satisfied, but it's better that I expected at this point. Coming into the season, I didn't think we would beat OSU, and I thought we would beat Wisconsin, and split with ND and Penn St and I honestly thought MSU would be a toss up, but now......
October 21st, 2019 at 12:28 PM ^
Of course I'd be satisfied. I'd be more than satisfied: I'd be ecstatic. 10 - 2 with a win over ND and not only ND, a win over hated OSU? What moron wouldn't be satisfied?
For me, I'd be satisfied with 9 - 3 and a loss to OSU. (Although if I could choose, I'd take 9 - 3 or 8 - 4 and a win over OSU.)
I actually half expect 8 - 4. While I wouldn't be satisfied, I wouldn't be upset. The team can only do so much.
The thing that I'm happiest about is I believe, I truly believe, that Michigan is on the way back after many years in the wilderness. I believed Harbaugh when he said the offense was "making strides," and I still believe it. I believe the OL has finally turned the corner, and it could FINALLY be good not just this year, but next year. and following years. Please keep Warinner. I also believe Gattis has been unnecessarily ripped, and that the offense is hitting their groove this year, and will be much better next year. Please, don't can the guy.
Lastly, what would really satisfy me would be for there to be no early entries to the draft. I know everyone is saying we are going to lose one or two WR's early. I would love for them ALL to come back in order to prove something.
October 21st, 2019 at 12:39 PM ^
This is the one silver lining of guys not having the years they were looking for individually, might get more back next year than we thought.