Who said Forcier Wouldn't Start Next Year?!
It's pretty clear now that Rodriguez needs either someone who can both run well and throw at least with minimum competency. The zone read that we run for 50% of our plays doesn't work unless the defense thinks the QB will ever keep the ball. Threet a) never keeps the ball and b) even if he does...who cares? Sheridan can run (sometimes), but not throw, and Threet can throw (sometimes...although im beginning to question that), but not run.
Considering that Threet can't even beat out Sheridan, i'm pretty sure Forcier or Beaver will start next year, especially since they'll have more time to learn the system than a regular freshman would.
I have to think coming in Forcier will be better than running and throwing than Sheridan who was pretty atrocious today with the exception of that one to McGuffie.
October 11th, 2008 at 4:07 PM ^
plus, the grass is always greener on the other side
October 11th, 2008 at 4:26 PM ^
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October 11th, 2008 at 4:32 PM ^
I blame this entirely on coaching. We are running or throwing the bubble screen virtually 90% of the time on first and second down.
Toledo couldn't run the ball at all. So, what did they do? DUH, they passed for like 260 yards.
What did RR do?????
Keep on Keeping On!
The only times we moved the ball was when we passed. But, no, RR had to prove the spread is gonna work no matter what!!!!
My apoligies to Lloyd -- he was never this stubborn.
And the D is just as bad -- when we needed stops we didn't get them. THIS WAS TOLEDO!!!!!!
October 11th, 2008 at 4:37 PM ^
Ballsy saying anything negative about the coaching around here.
Yes, I understand that this is his first year and was looking to be a rebuilding year no matter what. But come on, don't tell me we don't have the fucking talent to beat fucking Toledo no matter what scheme we're running or who's on the team. This one goes to coaching plain and simple.
October 11th, 2008 at 4:46 PM ^
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October 11th, 2008 at 4:48 PM ^
Is RR a real coach?
If he is, he will admit that the spread will simply NOT work with this personnel. Go back to the Power I and THROW IT DOWN THE FIELD.
Otherwise, we're looking at 2-10 here.
October 11th, 2008 at 4:53 PM ^
"Go back to the Power I and THROW IT DOWN THE FIELD."
What the fuck does this mean? A power I has ONE FUCKING RECEIVER! We have the worst Oline ever...and you want to run it between the tackles more? I can't even comprehend how stupid you are. Just...wow.
There isn't a lot of talent on this team. Why is this so hard to comprehend?
October 13th, 2008 at 2:13 PM ^
get government assistance when you lived at home? Because your statement assures me that you have some kind of dysfunction.
Abandon everything they've been taught, install a different offense, and still suck out loud. That's what you're saying. You ever think that they players that are playing right now might be in the right places at the right times after a year in the system ? Maybe that after a year or so, Threet will be able to hit wide open receivers?
"The zone read that we run for 50% of our plays doesn't work unless the defense thinks the QB will ever keep the ball. Threet a) never keeps the ball and b) even if he does...who cares?"
I'm not sure if you actually check statistics, but Threet is the second leading rusher on the team. Did you watch the Illinois game? I guess Threet didn't do anything with his feet there.
It's 6 goddamn games, people. Young team. Ease the fuck up.
October 11th, 2008 at 4:58 PM ^
October 11th, 2008 at 4:59 PM ^
So, like Lloyd sucked at recruiting/developing players?
Or, it is just a coincidence that M sucks so bad trying to run the spread?
October 11th, 2008 at 5:05 PM ^
Players that have left in the past 2 years or are out for this season or left early.
Gallimore (4* OL)
Boren(4* OL)
Schiafano (4* OL)
Zirbel (4* OL)
Mallett (5* QB)
Manningham (pure awesome)
Arrington (Ditto)
Mitchell (5th year Senior left rather then not be a fatass)
Ciuliou (Ditto)
Jason Forcier (NOOOOOOOOOOOO)
So our Oline is fucking terrible, we have a redshirt freshman or walkon QB, and we wonder why we can't win a game? You understand this right?
October 11th, 2008 at 5:20 PM ^
I understand all this.
Why did they leave?
October 11th, 2008 at 5:26 PM ^
Gallimore- Apparently no where near as good as rankings said, did not return.
Boren- Pretty much because of the coaching change.
Schifano- No longer liked football I guess.
Zirbel- Hurt
Mallett- Coaching change, attitude
Manningham- Was too awesome
Arrington- NFL draft, may have been somewhat related to coaching change and also related to craptacular QB situtation
Mitchell- Sucked
Ciuliou- Sucked
Jason Forcier- Mallett
So basically these guys are not available due to bad luck, the coaching change, NFL draft, or in the case of most of the Class of 2004 OL, lack of talent.
October 11th, 2008 at 5:28 PM ^
Mallett almost transferred 2 times before he left. Carr (I've read this in several places but I take no stake in its veracity) threw transfer papers at him.
Boren left after he was forced to do offseason workouts and his brother wasn't offered a scholarship (not proven, but once again, several stories about this).
The rest of the people either quit (lots of OL, Gittleson/Moeller issues?) or got injured. While Barwis is supposed to prevent injuries, you can't expect him to A) Prevent mono, B) Prevent injuries to players that he's worked with for only a few weeks (Odoms, Robinson, Zirbel) or C) Block for the offensive line or play QB.
We are young, weak in crucial places. Happens.
October 11th, 2008 at 5:41 PM ^
Yup, Happens every 42 years.
Unfortunatley, I'm old enough to remember.
October 11th, 2008 at 5:44 PM ^
October 11th, 2008 at 5:50 PM ^
Well , I do live in Boyne City right (50 miles) below the bridge, so I guess I could be a troll (they live under bridges, you know).
But, I have had season tickets to M football for 50 years!
I really have sat through games with 60,000 TOTAL ATTENDANCE !!!
And, unlike 99% of MGOBLOGGERs I have witnessed losing seasons (more than 1).
October 11th, 2008 at 5:52 PM ^
October 11th, 2008 at 6:00 PM ^
Wow, this may come as a surprise.
But, I LOVE MICHIGAN !!!!!
Whether we win or lose. For 50 years. Tailgating with friends and family. Sitting in 40 degree weather and hoping I don't get hyperthermia. Watching the good and the bad.
That's what "It's Great To Be A Michigan Wolverine" is all about.
Anyone can sing in victory!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Only and idiot never complains!!!
October 11th, 2008 at 6:18 PM ^
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October 13th, 2008 at 1:12 PM ^
I always get the hyper/hypo mixed up.
October 13th, 2008 at 2:27 PM ^
October 11th, 2008 at 6:33 PM ^
I understand that we don't have enough talent to beat Illinois, Utah, Notre Dame and probably MSU, OSU, and Penn State. But FUCKING TOLEDO!?!?!
Come on, there's no excuse for this one.
October 12th, 2008 at 8:19 AM ^
I'm thinking the same goddamned thing. Disgusting and embarrassing. Last night felt i-fucking-dentical to the Saturday night of App St. last year.
10 pts on motherfucking Toledo. 10 points.
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