Who do you think are college football's dirtiest programs?

Submitted by ChicagoB1GRed on

Another poster featuring Mandel's article calling out Ole Miss' coach Houston Nutt as a "dirty" coach got me thinking about which programs have a permanent stench

To me, you can divide them into two groups, the perennial successful programs like Alabama that constantly cheat and get caught but continue to prosper, and the flash-in-the-pan that have temporary success (Arizona St) or usually suck (Illinois) despite the cheating.

My nominations for the all-time "powers" that cheat:

Alabama, Oklahoma, FSU, Miami, Auburn....all been at it a long time.

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Jedelman11

August 3rd, 2010 at 7:41 PM ^

Given the sanctions, I think USC has to be right up there near the top

EDIT: Not to mention they just gave back a Heisman, fired their AD, watched their coach bolt to the NFL before shit hit the fan, and responded with..."lets hire Lane Kiffen and take fliers on recruits who's father's want record deals"

psychomatt

August 3rd, 2010 at 10:47 PM ^

People forget they were busted similarly back in the early '80s. And this time around, they were caught with major violations in both their football and men's basketball programs. And Pete Carroll (and the AD they just replaced) are running around saying no one knew anything and USC is getting the shaft? Ok, sure, I'm sure it's all just a big misunderstanding.

USC holds the philiosophy that it is ok to cheat so long as you don't get caught and if you do get caught you should still be proud of your program if the number of titles you have won by cheating more than offsets the pain of a couple of years of lost scholarships and missed bowl games. I cannot think of a program that has been more defiant or less contrite after being called out by the NCAA for major violations. Most teams at least pretend to be sorry for what they have done when they get caught.

That is why USC is the worst. This is not one coach or a couple of players. This is the philosophy of that entire athletic department. If I were the NCAA, I would add on a 2-year TV ban in response to the appeal.

MichiganExile

August 3rd, 2010 at 7:22 PM ^

Even as an SC alum I would have to go with them right now because of the sanctions. Hopefully the hammer that has come down rights the ship.

Nick Saban's oversigning at Alabama is pretty dirty and I really hate Urban Meyer's dreams about god wanting players to play for him. That seems pretty dirty to me.

psychomatt

August 3rd, 2010 at 9:54 PM ^

... is clearly the USC of college basketball. And the melding of Kentucky with Calipari is mind-blowing. I can only imagine what the NCAA is going to discover after Calipari and Kentucky have a few years to hone their talents together.

MaizeAndBlueWahoo

August 3rd, 2010 at 9:54 PM ^

USC got hammered with the whole Bush thing, but I don't think Florida State gets the credit it deserves for the stunts it pulls and its total lack of interest in discipline.