Sammy Watkins would have been sweet. We were in his final two
What recruit not committing to Michigan hurt the most in recent years
Yep. I live near Clemson and every time I see Sammy I still say, "He was supposed to go to Michigan!" What a great player and a great kid.
My opinion is that you shouldn't be happy that we didn't get a 5* running back and that Ty Isaac is not committed to Michigan so you shouldn't speak as if he is.
Getting a 5* running back who clearly didn't want to play for us?? Ohio can have him. It can only help our chances at bringing Isaac in.
You seem mad that we didn't get him and try to justify that by saying Ohio can have him. Having a 5* running back probably isn't a bad thing.
P.s. How did you start a thread with only 8 points?
Lol I'm not mad at all. We know Urban Meyer doesn't use his tailbacks in a way we should be worried about. I think it says something at his press conference when all he talked about was how he can't wait to get his hands on Braxton Miller. Why should we be concerned about a running back that doesn't fit his system? I would rather have them there then Iowa or Michigan state.
P.s. I dunno I've only posted twice
First, why did he only talk about Miller and not Dunn? Because that is a recruiting violation. Coaches cannot talk about specific players until the LOI is signed.
Second, it's maybe just possible that Meyer will say, "Hey, this Dunn kid is fantastic and I'm going to utilize him more than I've used RB's in the past!" Heck, Borges did a lot of things this year we hadn't seen from him in the past. If Meyer adapts (not a wholesale change, mind you) his scheme to his players, I can easily see Dunn fitting in. And I'm sure this is what Meyer told him.
Two more 1,000-1,500 yard seasons from Mr. Toussaint
hes a 4 star.
Everybody and their grandma is a 5 star on scout. Dont make that your basis
Dee Hart was the reason I started following recruiting, and the reason I am an addict today. Although the writing was on the wall for a bit, he was the recruit I was most excited about, and hurt when he left.
As for Brionte, good for him. We are still going to get good players, we do not need Brionte, it just would have been nice to swipe one more buckeye, just for bragging rights.
TO HOKE & CO: Go out and get Garnette, it won't matter who the RB is in the future.
I agree with you on all three points.
I got too wound up with the Pryor Parade because I thought he was someone who could really jumpstart us at the time. Little did we know what that would have done. I wish people would stop talking about Dunn so much...He would have been great here, but he followed his heart. Wish him the best except for "The Game".
I do think that Zettel picking PSU was the one that hurt the most being such a Michigan fan that he was.
Zettel is hurting more now. I can't say I feel sorry for him.
Top level rival 4 stars are 5 stars on scout. But it balances out because everyone and the grandma (besides Chris Wormley) are 4 stars on rivals.
Brionte is a 4*-5* back, ... probably a 4* at Osu, but would be considered a 5* for us, with our offense scheme and O line.
iPhone app glitch, allows you to create threads w/ no points.
Don't give out the secrets to the trolls...
Can we stop this every time a recruit picks somewhere else? Let's not live in an imaginary world where we wanted this guy to come to UM but since he chose OSU we're not sad. Good riddance, people like to say, but that's asinine and juvenile. "I'd rather have 22 Nick Sheridan's out on the field than one person who doesn't truly love Michigan in their heart of hearts" is the next post in this progression of sour grapes.
Admit you wanted the guy and are disappointed he left, move on just like he's going to. There's no reason to pretend "Oh I didn;t want him to play for us anyway".
I'm getting really sick of the mods on this site nixing everything they don't agree with. Just b/c they don't agree with it doesn't make it trolling or flamebait.
The mods don't determine what is flamebait, the community does.
he doesn't value your opinion. Ty isaac is one of the main RB targets of this years class. IMO the best RB not commited anywhere and with interest in Michigan since Dunn reaffirmed, so please quit policing threads. If you have it all figured out write your own story.
is in this class....
...you're just not well informed on recruiting matters. Don't mean ya can't post your "opinions", but really, if u gonna take the time - find out which class guys are in at least. K?
I was replying to someone who was trying to say another users statement was not worthy of it being a part of the thread. Im just sick of people doing that, K? If you actually read and understood what I was trying to say you would have seen Ty Isaac as being an RB target. My morning before work routine includes WTKA recruiting roundup, gobluewolverine subscription, and a rivals and espn recruiting website visit. Not to mention, before his departure, my favorite recruiting analyst who is no longer with us TomVH. It has been like this for the last 5 years. Before you go and judge anothers knowledge make sure your facts are straight.
EDIT: My Ty Isaac take was directed at aaronwils123. If my reply was not put in the correct spot I prob didn't do it correctly. Still, I never implied Ty as being a commit.
Might be time to lay off the football recruiting news a little bit...
You must be employed by the freep. Typical freep move. An ignorant reply without having any clue as to where my initial reply was directed. My advice to you, take it or leave it, read the posts but leave the comments to others. You were doing so well having just 37 pts over a 3 year period.
may not be commited but he's very interested in UM.
The rollercoaster ride that was Dee Hart had a pretty disappointing ending. After being the early favorites, then out of it, then to having him commit, only to see him bolt for Alabama, that was pretty hard to take. Perhaps moreso because at the time we badly needed a RB like him for the RR spread, and he could have been a real impact freshman. Of course now his recruitment doesn't seem like a big loss because we need bigger RBs, and we won 10 games this year without him....
Hart was the first guy that popped into my head, but Fitz rushed for a thousand yards this season. No matter what Hart did, it would only be a marginal improvement over Fitz, IMO. Going by that criteria, I'm sure it was a DT or interior OL in...2008? 2009 maybe? We could definitely use a five-star redshirt sophomore or junior next season at either of those positions.
DaQuinta Jones wasn't an elite prospect, but he has seen plenty of time at Arkansas on their DL since he stepped on campus and UM could really use a good 3 Tech DT in 2012.
What in the world is wrong that we daydream about 18 year old high school recruits who have never played a down of college football, taken a D-1 hit, given a D-1 hit OR made it through summer camp. Brionte Dunn? BFD. He will probably be eclipsed by some 2 star back out of Texas who goes on to have a breakout year at Ole Miss or some run-down program. It's very difficult to forecast.
I think HS player ranking have their purpose, but gettting upset we lost a HS running back when the college level is so complex (o-line play, play calling, injuries, opposing players, coditioning, etc.) it's mind-boggling we are here.Plus, we're talking 18 year old kids who have a lot of growing pains - emotional issues, physical issues, home life, friends, coaches.
Do we not trust Rawls? Or the ability for some other under the radar player to step up? Give me an underdog with the drive to be the best and I will take him over Brionte (about to get some tats) anyday. Take your crayons, tat up your body, and enjoy your 400 yard rushing season your frosh and soph year. You won't be a feature back. "Be calm and Run Dave?" Hah. Those days are over, welcome to crack rabbits running slots in Uncle Urbie's world.
AND, Brionte, don't say we didn't warn you....
can I plus 1 this? Im not well versed yet on the different nuances this site has to offer. Great take!
We were in the running for Barkevious Mingo at some point, too, weren't we? Maybe not. But since we're on the DL topic, how did Pearlie Graves pan out?
If we're talking about disappointments in terms of how kids panned out, I had REALLY high expectations when we originally signed Kelly Baraka. Shame his time at U-M ended the way it did. Apparently, he's boxing now...
We did get a visit from Mingo, so I guess we were in his top group.
Graves played it seven games last year, but left the program this year after not cracking the depth chart.
Here is Baraka fighting Cage Combat MMA. What a talent he could have been.
Honestly the only name I can think of is Terrelle Pryor. That said... its probably better in the long run that he didn't come here
If for no other reason than we will all remember him in 20 years and most of these other guys will be forgotten. But you are also right that it was the best thing for Michigan in the long run.
Bad for RR, but good for Michigan.
Well, it could be said it hurt OSU the most. Question doesn't specify "who". Got their coach fired.
But I guess that still remains to be seen.
It was a db that went to LSU awhile back but i cant remember his name....it was around the time when Burgess, Crable, and Woodley were either Sophs or Juniors.....
Eugene and bitterness over his recruitment if the rumors are true, are a big part of why Carr vetoed Les Miles. Was a big recruit at position of need that was in the bag that may have altered the course of Michigan football.
having a legit nickel corner rather than chris graham over anthony gonzalez in the slot? now i'm going to have a cry and eat ice cream just for having thought of that.
If you look at his recruiting rankings, sure. But, try looking at his actual career (underwhelming, even when adjusting for the level of the competition at LSU). Saying that he would have significantly altered the course of UMich football seems like a reach.
Referring to Miles/Carr tiff.
He just had to be better than Chris Graham at covering a slot to significantly alter the course of UM football.
If I remember correctly, he already had a son, and staying close to him was a big part of his change-of-mind.
Ted Ginn Jr. was a bad loss. Yes I know he's from Glenville but damn if I recall it was between us and Ohio, and as it turns out we lost to him quite a bit.
If we would have offered Ted Ginn when he camped at UM (rumor has it he wanted an offer so bad he was distraught when he had a bad showing). No one knows what could have been, but it could have been Michigan rather than OSU that had command of the Glenville pipeline, which would have produced a lot more high profile recruits over the years.
We also missed pretty hard on Desean Jackson. Apparently we took LaTerryal Savoy over him. Oops!
The dustup between Glenville and UM actually began about a year previous to TG Jr's recruitment when Sr took exception to LC's use or misuse of former Glenville player Pierre Woods. Sr had taken in Woods at one point in HS when he was living homeless in a car and had a very strong bond with him. Woods would eventually end on a high note, but the damage had been done by that point.