i may have altered the title
What recruit not committing to Michigan hurt the most in recent years
I have been thinking about this whole Dunn situation for a while now and I can honestly say I'm happy he didn't commit to us. After seeing tape on Ty Isaac this kid is gonna be great especially with our Ol we have coming in. But it got me to thinking who was I most upset with that didn'tcommit to Michigan an I thought they were going to. The one person I couldn't get out of my head was Rojo I remember being so pissed off when he committed to USC and thinking we had him locked up especially after tearing his acl his junior year an we were the only program that offered him. Anybody else have any opinions?
December 14th, 2011 at 2:27 AM | 
In retrospect
In retrospect
December 14th, 2011 at 8:26 AM |
Yep. I live near Clemson and
Yep. I live near Clemson and
Yep. I live near Clemson and every time I see Sammy I still say, "He was supposed to go to Michigan!" What a great player and a great kid.
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December 14th, 2011 at 10:58 AM |
Hopefully he can keep his eligibility.
Hopefully he can keep his eligibility.
See thread below:
http://mgoblog.com/mgoboard/orange-bowl-eligibility-sammy-watkins-question
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December 14th, 2011 at 2:27 AM |
My opinion is that you
My opinion is that you
My opinion is that you shouldn't be happy that we didn't get a 5* running back and that Ty Isaac is not committed to Michigan so you shouldn't speak as if he is.
What the Dileo?
December 14th, 2011 at 2:31 AM |
posted from iPhone
posted from iPhone
Getting a 5* running back who clearly didn't want to play for us?? Ohio can have him. It can only help our chances at bringing Isaac in.
December 14th, 2011 at 2:39 AM |
You seem mad that we didn't
You seem mad that we didn't
You seem mad that we didn't get him and try to justify that by saying Ohio can have him. Having a 5* running back probably isn't a bad thing.
P.s. How did you start a thread with only 8 points?
What the Dileo?
December 14th, 2011 at 2:46 AM |
posted from iPhone
posted from iPhone
Lol I'm not mad at all. We know Urban Meyer doesn't use his tailbacks in a way we should be worried about. I think it says something at his press conference when all he talked about was how he can't wait to get his hands on Braxton Miller. Why should we be concerned about a running back that doesn't fit his system? I would rather have them there then Iowa or Michigan state.
P.s. I dunno I've only posted twice
December 14th, 2011 at 12:12 PM |
umm, really?
umm, really?
First, why did he only talk about Miller and not Dunn? Because that is a recruiting violation. Coaches cannot talk about specific players until the LOI is signed.
Second, it's maybe just possible that Meyer will say, "Hey, this Dunn kid is fantastic and I'm going to utilize him more than I've used RB's in the past!" Heck, Borges did a lot of things this year we hadn't seen from him in the past. If Meyer adapts (not a wholesale change, mind you) his scheme to his players, I can easily see Dunn fitting in. And I'm sure this is what Meyer told him.
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December 14th, 2011 at 3:30 AM |
Ill take Fitz
Ill take Fitz
Two more 1,000-1,500 yard seasons from Mr. Toussaint
December 14th, 2011 at 9:11 AM |
hes not a 5 star RB
hes not a 5 star RB
hes a 4 star.
Everybody and their grandma is a 5 star on scout. Dont make that your basis
December 14th, 2011 at 10:08 AM |
Dee Hart was the reason I
Dee Hart was the reason I
Dee Hart was the reason I started following recruiting, and the reason I am an addict today. Although the writing was on the wall for a bit, he was the recruit I was most excited about, and hurt when he left.
As for Brionte, good for him. We are still going to get good players, we do not need Brionte, it just would have been nice to swipe one more buckeye, just for bragging rights.
TO HOKE & CO: Go out and get Garnette, it won't matter who the RB is in the future.
"This might sound arrogant and if it is, it is .... but we're Michigan." -Brady Hoke
December 14th, 2011 at 1:12 PM |
Well Said
Well Said
I agree with you on all three points.
I got too wound up with the Pryor Parade because I thought he was someone who could really jumpstart us at the time. Little did we know what that would have done. I wish people would stop talking about Dunn so much...He would have been great here, but he followed his heart. Wish him the best except for "The Game".
I do think that Zettel picking PSU was the one that hurt the most being such a Michigan fan that he was.
Choose Michigan because it is MICHIGAN!
December 14th, 2011 at 5:08 PM |
posted from iPhone
posted from iPhone
Zettel is hurting more now. I can't say I feel sorry for him.
December 14th, 2011 at 1:38 PM |
And no...
And no...
Top level rival 4 stars are 5 stars on scout. But it balances out because everyone and the grandma (besides Chris Wormley) are 4 stars on rivals.
Brionte is a 4*-5* back, ... probably a 4* at Osu, but would be considered a 5* for us, with our offense scheme and O line.
"This might sound arrogant and if it is, it is .... but we're Michigan." -Brady Hoke
December 14th, 2011 at 11:04 AM |
iPhone app glitch, allows you
iPhone app glitch, allows you
iPhone app glitch, allows you to create threads w/ no points.
Blue is Faster
December 14th, 2011 at 12:16 PM |
Shhhhh
Shhhhh
Don't give out the secrets to the trolls...
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December 14th, 2011 at 12:51 PM |
Sour Grapes
Sour Grapes
Can we stop this every time a recruit picks somewhere else? Let's not live in an imaginary world where we wanted this guy to come to UM but since he chose OSU we're not sad. Good riddance, people like to say, but that's asinine and juvenile. "I'd rather have 22 Nick Sheridan's out on the field than one person who doesn't truly love Michigan in their heart of hearts" is the next post in this progression of sour grapes.
Admit you wanted the guy and are disappointed he left, move on just like he's going to. There's no reason to pretend "Oh I didn;t want him to play for us anyway".
December 14th, 2011 at 9:44 AM |
THIS IS NOT FLAMEBAIT!
THIS IS NOT FLAMEBAIT!
I'm getting really sick of the mods on this site nixing everything they don't agree with. Just b/c they don't agree with it doesn't make it trolling or flamebait.
December 14th, 2011 at 11:56 AM |
The mods don't determine what
The mods don't determine what
The mods don't determine what is flamebait, the community does.
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December 14th, 2011 at 9:48 AM |
good thing
good thing
he doesn't value your opinion. Ty isaac is one of the main RB targets of this years class. IMO the best RB not commited anywhere and with interest in Michigan since Dunn reaffirmed, so please quit policing threads. If you have it all figured out write your own story.
"Yards of dust"
\m/_(>_<)_\m/
December 14th, 2011 at 10:24 AM |
I don't think Isaac....
I don't think Isaac....
is in this class....
December 14th, 2011 at 1:24 PM |
Blue1997...
Blue1997...
...you're just not well informed on recruiting matters. Don't mean ya can't post your "opinions", but really, if u gonna take the time - find out which class guys are in at least. K?
December 15th, 2011 at 11:25 AM |
Not well informed?
Not well informed?
I was replying to someone who was trying to say another users statement was not worthy of it being a part of the thread. Im just sick of people doing that, K? If you actually read and understood what I was trying to say you would have seen Ty Isaac as being an RB target. My morning before work routine includes WTKA recruiting roundup, gobluewolverine subscription, and a rivals and espn recruiting website visit. Not to mention, before his departure, my favorite recruiting analyst who is no longer with us TomVH. It has been like this for the last 5 years. Before you go and judge anothers knowledge make sure your facts are straight.
EDIT: My Ty Isaac take was directed at aaronwils123. If my reply was not put in the correct spot I prob didn't do it correctly. Still, I never implied Ty as being a commit.
"Yards of dust"
\m/_(>_<)_\m/
December 15th, 2011 at 1:03 PM |
Uhhhhmmmm....
Uhhhhmmmm....
Might be time to lay off the football recruiting news a little bit...
December 15th, 2011 at 11:18 AM |
You must
You must
You must be employed by the freep. Typical freep move. An ignorant reply without having any clue as to where my initial reply was directed. My advice to you, take it or leave it, read the posts but leave the comments to others. You were doing so well having just 37 pts over a 3 year period.
"Yards of dust"
\m/_(>_<)_\m/
December 21st, 2011 at 12:55 AM |
Isaac
Isaac
may not be commited but he's very interested in UM.
December 14th, 2011 at 2:34 AM |
Dee Hart
Dee Hart
The rollercoaster ride that was Dee Hart had a pretty disappointing ending. After being the early favorites, then out of it, then to having him commit, only to see him bolt for Alabama, that was pretty hard to take. Perhaps moreso because at the time we badly needed a RB like him for the RR spread, and he could have been a real impact freshman. Of course now his recruitment doesn't seem like a big loss because we need bigger RBs, and we won 10 games this year without him....
December 14th, 2011 at 2:39 AM |
Hart was the first guy that
Hart was the first guy that
Hart was the first guy that popped into my head, but Fitz rushed for a thousand yards this season. No matter what Hart did, it would only be a marginal improvement over Fitz, IMO. Going by that criteria, I'm sure it was a DT or interior OL in...2008? 2009 maybe? We could definitely use a five-star redshirt sophomore or junior next season at either of those positions.
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December 14th, 2011 at 10:07 AM |
DaQuinta Jones wasn't an
DaQuinta Jones wasn't an
DaQuinta Jones wasn't an elite prospect, but he has seen plenty of time at Arkansas on their DL since he stepped on campus and UM could really use a good 3 Tech DT in 2012.
We ARE Michigan....COME GET SOME!!!
December 14th, 2011 at 4:09 PM |
I don't often say dumb thread but...
I don't often say dumb thread but...
What in the world is wrong that we daydream about 18 year old high school recruits who have never played a down of college football, taken a D-1 hit, given a D-1 hit OR made it through summer camp. Brionte Dunn? BFD. He will probably be eclipsed by some 2 star back out of Texas who goes on to have a breakout year at Ole Miss or some run-down program. It's very difficult to forecast.
I think HS player ranking have their purpose, but gettting upset we lost a HS running back when the college level is so complex (o-line play, play calling, injuries, opposing players, coditioning, etc.) it's mind-boggling we are here.Plus, we're talking 18 year old kids who have a lot of growing pains - emotional issues, physical issues, home life, friends, coaches.
Do we not trust Rawls? Or the ability for some other under the radar player to step up? Give me an underdog with the drive to be the best and I will take him over Brionte (about to get some tats) anyday. Take your crayons, tat up your body, and enjoy your 400 yard rushing season your frosh and soph year. You won't be a feature back. "Be calm and Run Dave?" Hah. Those days are over, welcome to crack rabbits running slots in Uncle Urbie's world.
AND, Brionte, don't say we didn't warn you....
Michigan Men by choice, recognized by deeds, tested and proven by time.
December 15th, 2011 at 11:58 AM |
How...
How...
can I plus 1 this? Im not well versed yet on the different nuances this site has to offer. Great take!
"Yards of dust"
\m/_(>_<)_\m/
December 14th, 2011 at 12:19 PM |
We were in the running for
We were in the running for
We were in the running for Barkevious Mingo at some point, too, weren't we? Maybe not. But since we're on the DL topic, how did Pearlie Graves pan out?
If we're talking about disappointments in terms of how kids panned out, I had REALLY high expectations when we originally signed Kelly Baraka. Shame his time at U-M ended the way it did. Apparently, he's boxing now...
http://www.mlive.com/sports/kalamazoo/index.ssf/2011/06/ex-portage_northern_star_kelly.html
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December 14th, 2011 at 2:15 PM |
We did get a visit from
We did get a visit from
We did get a visit from Mingo, so I guess we were in his top group.
Graves played it seven games last year, but left the program this year after not cracking the depth chart.
http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/6993162/sam-fehoko-pearli...
Greetings from Bolivia.
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December 15th, 2011 at 12:11 PM |
Cage Combat
Cage Combat
Here is Baraka fighting Cage Combat MMA. What a talent he could have been.
Like a blind man at an orgy, I was going to have to feel my way through
December 14th, 2011 at 2:36 AM |
Honestly the only name I can
Honestly the only name I can
Honestly the only name I can think of is Terrelle Pryor. That said... its probably better in the long run that he didn't come here
December 14th, 2011 at 8:52 AM |
He he has to be at the top of the list.
He he has to be at the top of the list.
If for no other reason than we will all remember him in 20 years and most of these other guys will be forgotten. But you are also right that it was the best thing for Michigan in the long run.
December 14th, 2011 at 12:02 PM |
BULLET=DODGED
BULLET=DODGED
BULLET=DODGED
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December 14th, 2011 at 9:43 AM |
Bad for RR, but good for
Bad for RR, but good for
Bad for RR, but good for Michigan.
M'Dog
December 14th, 2011 at 10:26 AM |
What recruit not committing to Michigan hurt the most?"
What recruit not committing to Michigan hurt the most?"
Well, it could be said it hurt OSU the most. Question doesn't specify "who". Got their coach fired.
But I guess that still remains to be seen.
"I love him, he's a great coach, he's a great mentor, he's a great friend. He's every single thing you want a college coach to be, and he does it flawlessly." -David Molk
December 14th, 2011 at 2:40 AM |
A DB
A DB
It was a db that went to LSU awhile back but i cant remember his name....it was around the time when Burgess, Crable, and Woodley were either Sophs or Juniors.....
AJM
December 14th, 2011 at 2:41 AM |
Jai Eugene
Jai Eugene
Jai Eugene
Blank.....Blank......You're not looking at the big picture here.
December 14th, 2011 at 3:56 AM |
Eugene and bitterness over
Eugene and bitterness over
Eugene and bitterness over his recruitment if the rumors are true, are a big part of why Carr vetoed Les Miles. Was a big recruit at position of need that was in the bag that may have altered the course of Michigan football.
December 14th, 2011 at 4:05 AM |
having a legit nickel corner
having a legit nickel corner
having a legit nickel corner rather than chris graham over anthony gonzalez in the slot? now i'm going to have a cry and eat ice cream just for having thought of that.
...the Canadians make up for it with their emotion and classic ice-dancing skill.
December 14th, 2011 at 6:52 AM |
Altered the course?
Altered the course?
If you look at his recruiting rankings, sure. But, try looking at his actual career (underwhelming, even when adjusting for the level of the competition at LSU). Saying that he would have significantly altered the course of UMich football seems like a reach.
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December 14th, 2011 at 8:40 AM |
Referring to Miles/Carr tiff.
Referring to Miles/Carr tiff.
Referring to Miles/Carr tiff.
December 14th, 2011 at 10:37 AM |
He just had to be better than
He just had to be better than
He just had to be better than Chris Graham at covering a slot to significantly alter the course of UM football.
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December 14th, 2011 at 2:43 PM |
Can't be too surprised he ended up staying in La. though
Can't be too surprised he ended up staying in La. though
If I remember correctly, he already had a son, and staying close to him was a big part of his change-of-mind.
December 14th, 2011 at 2:40 AM |
Ted Ginn Jr. was a bad loss.
Ted Ginn Jr. was a bad loss.
Ted Ginn Jr. was a bad loss. Yes I know he's from Glenville but damn if I recall it was between us and Ohio, and as it turns out we lost to him quite a bit.
Blank.....Blank......You're not looking at the big picture here.
December 14th, 2011 at 2:45 AM |
If we would have offered Ted
If we would have offered Ted
If we would have offered Ted Ginn when he camped at UM (rumor has it he wanted an offer so bad he was distraught when he had a bad showing). No one knows what could have been, but it could have been Michigan rather than OSU that had command of the Glenville pipeline, which would have produced a lot more high profile recruits over the years.
We also missed pretty hard on Desean Jackson. Apparently we took LaTerryal Savoy over him. Oops!
December 14th, 2011 at 10:11 AM |
Ted Sr
Ted Sr
The dustup between Glenville and UM actually began about a year previous to TG Jr's recruitment when Sr took exception to LC's use or misuse of former Glenville player Pierre Woods. Sr had taken in Woods at one point in HS when he was living homeless in a car and had a very strong bond with him. Woods would eventually end on a high note, but the damage had been done by that point.
Sammy Watkins would have been sweet. We were in his final two