MGoStrength

December 1st, 2020 at 10:13 AM ^

Anything that gets Meyer out of OSU.  I still think he's having a lasting impact there.  His management of a program, ability to see the big picture and relate to people, and his dislike of UM IMO are all still impacting both programs.  I would like him and his influence away from OSU as soon as possible.  I have no doubt he'd turn Texas around in no time with all the talent they have there already and available to recruit from.

BuckeyeChuck

December 1st, 2020 at 2:24 PM ^

Herman was Meyer's guy. Rumor mill has it that Herman is the cause of Meyer leaving OSU.

  • WR recruit-at-the-time Garrett Wilson (Austin native) flipped his commitment from TX to OSU.
  • Herman was pissed.
  • Herman leaks to reporter Brett McMurphy about Z.Smith's background (not coincidentally WR coach and obviously involved in Wilson's flip).
  • McMurphy begins expose on the Smith saga.
  • This of course ultimately led to Meyer's resignation.

Not sure if you recall, when Z.Smith was going all 14-year old whiny girl on Twitter a couple years ago he went hard after Tom Herman and exposed Herman on some activity the two of them conducted as OSU assistants while on a recruiting visit to Miami.

Herman had something (perhaps everything?) to do with prompting the whole Z.Smith expose.

4roses

December 1st, 2020 at 12:56 PM ^

Yes, never begrudge someone for looking out for #1, but I also can't help myself to think of that classic line from Hunt for Red October - "there's little room in Tupolev's heart for anyone other than Tupolev" - when it comes to Urban. To be fair, that sentiment probably applies to most highly successful coaches in the game as well.

RandallFlagg

December 1st, 2020 at 10:35 AM ^

You are correct.  OSU has plucked the top recruit out of Texas the last 3 or 4 years.  Meyer understood that to win a NC, you need to recruit outside the Midwest and get kids who play football 10 months out of the year against real competition.  Urbana’s first order of business will be Quinn Ewers.  

Golden section

December 1st, 2020 at 10:43 AM ^

I don't think Urb goes to the NFL. His skillset better suits the college game. He's recognizes and develops talent. He's a great motivator and culture builder.

He also doesn't owe OSU anything. He inherited a good program from Tressel and made it elite.

Texas would be a good fit for him.

Do you really think Texas is going to want Franklin? They might pay Herman's 15 million dollar buyout but they're not paying Herman's 15 AND Franklin's 38 million dollar buyout!

1VaBlue1

December 1st, 2020 at 11:34 AM ^

Indeed...  I also remember the stink made about Strong being the first black coach in Texas history. Having lived in the South for the last ~30 years, I can say with impunity that there were/are some members of the Texas fanbase and alumni/booster associations that wanted nothing to do with a black coach then, or forever in the future.

And VA isn't even the deep south!

Perkis-Size Me

December 1st, 2020 at 10:17 AM ^

I'd love for him to do it. If for no other reason than it would just piss off OSU fans and remind them that Meyer is nothing more than a mercenary. OSU isn't anymore special to Meyer than Florida. 

Brian Griese

December 1st, 2020 at 10:39 AM ^

Just my two cents that I’ll prolly get negged for, but if Jim Harbaugh existed in some alternative universe where everything about him was the same except he played at MSU and presently coached at MSU, would any of us view him as any less of an “Old Scratch” than Meyer?

 

HateSparty

December 1st, 2020 at 10:45 AM ^

Yes, he would be viewed as less of the Devil.  Harbaugh, for all of his plethora of flaws, is universally considered a value based coach.  His students graduate, stay out of trouble and there has never been a whiff of impropriety.  If you see him and Urban as similar in the evil category, you are an interesting cat.

Brian Griese

December 1st, 2020 at 10:56 AM ^

1) Can you please provide me stats that show Harbaugh’s players stay on campus at least 4-5 years and graduate at a substantially higher level than Urban’s players? A quick google search turned up nothing for me and I’d be curious to see the actual numbers. 
2) Nate Johnson, Chris Evans, LTT, Grant Perry, Jourdan Lewis and O’Maury Samuels...remember anything about them?

 

Monocle Smile

December 1st, 2020 at 11:02 AM ^

The fuck kind of comment is this?

an you please provide me stats that show Harbaugh’s players stay on campus at least 4-5 years

"At least 4-5 years?" What are you even talking about? Lots of athletes get degrees in three.

As for your second point...look up Urban Meyer's tenure at Florida. Maybe include the term "Fulmer Cup." I'm baffled you named a couple of those players, and even more baffled that you named players that were immediately thrown off the team when their transgressions were discovered.