Tressel's emails between him and this lawyer character

Submitted by samsoccer7 on

Here is a link to the release by OSU and copies of the emails between Tressel and, apparently, this lawyer guy.  It sounds bad to me.  He obviously knew several specific details. His comments about pounding the guys to grow up (that's what he said), and about holding the BigTen rings from certain players, are weak as hell.

http://www2.nbc4i.com/mgmedia/file/127/osu-tressel-emails/

JohnnyBlue

March 8th, 2011 at 9:15 PM ^

anyone else notice the first email tress receaved said nothing about confidentiality, and at that point he should of passed the information on. 

WingedHelment

March 8th, 2011 at 9:28 PM ^

These emails are fascinating reading.  Does anyone understand what he means when he talks about having "some collateral" at the bottom of the chain?  

Also, I love how Tressel thinks you put a space between the last word of a sentence and the punctuation.  So cute -- it's like a child learning to write. 

Blue_Sox

March 8th, 2011 at 9:50 PM ^

I interpreted it the same way. And in that case...if you're threatening to reprimand the players, how can you possibly not know that they have done something that may make them ineligible? If you're going to punish them, doesn't that men your bosses and the NCAA should know about it?

This looks extremely damaging in my opinion. 

Thrillhouse

March 8th, 2011 at 9:30 PM ^

Dear Jim,

I have recently learned that ################################### ############# ####### ############ ################# upon which they were deported to ###### ###### #################### inside of a car trunk ###################### Big Ten Championship rings with cocain residue ########################## My father was a Janitor for ## years at ################# didn't perticularly care for ####, ####, ####, or Canadians.

I may also be in trouble because I let ####### take pictures of my ####### while they both ####### in the back of a conversion van. ######### ####### ########## ##### ####### ##########

Mike.

--------------------

Dear Mike,

thx for the heads up !! go bucks !! - jt

08mms

March 8th, 2011 at 9:33 PM ^

Who retained the attorney/how did he get access to all of this confidential information about the drug dealers case?  Is he violating a client's confidentiality in sending this to JT?

SFBlue

March 8th, 2011 at 10:56 PM ^

I thought the same thing.  Did the attorney have an attorney-client relationship with the tattoo artist guy?  What did he tell tattoo artist guy to get him to come to his office for 1.5 hours?  Did he divluge attorney-client communications?  Did the attorney interfere with the ongoing investigation (at one point, it looks like he says he may try to get the rings back).

bdamod1a1

March 8th, 2011 at 9:40 PM ^

How can any reasonable person read these and swallow the load of crap at the presser? The emails specifically show knowledge beforehand of the whole tattoo fiasco. Now, as interesting as this will all be I can't wait to see what the bar will do with this guy. Any law dogs out there that might shed some light.... Sittin...BLUE in turdville cbus. Cant wait to hear the excuse makers tomorrow

FreddieMercuryHayes

March 8th, 2011 at 10:19 PM ^

Ok, just read the e-mails, and they are pretty damning I think.  Hell, the attorney didn't even ask for confidentiality until the 3rd e-mail.  And it seems more because he is breaking his privlage and not even for the sake of the investigation.  I'm not gonna lie, to me, this looks real bad.  Also the report even acknowledges that Tressel only told the truth when the university caught him with his pants down.

To top it off, the school's report even admits that Tressel lied to the NCAA multiple times, even after the story became public and confidentiality wouldn't matter to the investigation.

Also, did anybody else notice that Rife had a NC ring?  Well, this had to have been going on for some time, but I guess Pittman already confirmed this...

Rescue_Dawn

March 8th, 2011 at 9:44 PM ^

They blacked out the to/from on the emails, but they left the name on the header...Achie Doug aka the Associate Athletics Director for Compliance and Camps at OSU....hmmmmmm

BiSB

March 8th, 2011 at 10:26 PM ^

Many 3Ls took the MPRE this weekend, and if this scenario was on there, this would be the hilarious free-points-because-it-is-so-obviously-unethical gimmie question.

"X hires an attorney Y when X is arrested for various crimes.  X informs Y of some dealings he had with several football players.  Attorney Y e-mails this information, unsolicited, to the players' coach, including information presumably collected as part of his representation of the client such as plea negotiations between the client and the government.  He also confirms to the coach that he represents X in the matter.  However, he includes a line in his third e-mail stating that the information is confidential, so could he please not share it.  How screwed is Attorney Y?

a) Screwed

b) Screeeeeeeeeeewed

c) Proper fucked.

d) Get the fuck off my court"

Brhino

March 8th, 2011 at 11:15 PM ^

I "LOL"d at "d)".  And, for the record, this is not the typical internet situation where one claims to LOL when one actually did not.  This was an honest to God OL L.

BlueDragon

March 9th, 2011 at 12:05 AM ^

My dad's a retired attorney and I enjoy armchair legal debate.  This is pretty much what I was thinking after I read the first e-mail.  "Hey, heads up, my client has stuff from your players.  Have a blessed day!  DERP!"  "Thanks!  Go Bucks!  DERP DERP!"  That lawyer's going straight to the gas chamber for this.

Bodogblog

March 8th, 2011 at 9:58 PM ^

and press Send?  This is Kwame-level stupidity if you're going to try and keep it quiet.  And he saved the e-mails?  This is not a wise man, or he's someone who believes he's above even needing to cover his tracks.

Happy Easter !! !

Bodogblog

March 8th, 2011 at 10:21 PM ^

If you get an e-mail in your inbox and delete it that day, the servers won't back it up, even if your inbox folders are stored on the server.  If you leave it overnight, it's backed up, but probably is overwritten the next evening when the back-up runs again (but more likely they keep several days or weeks of back-up).  It's often possible to retrieve deleted files, but it takes a lot of effort. 

But even if it was backed up, the lawyers likely weren't looking through the back-up servers.  They were "reviewing information on an unrelated legal issue."  This wasn't a forensic exercise where they were looking for deleted e-mails in a cover-up.  Weren't even looking for this issue

zspoelstra

March 8th, 2011 at 10:43 PM ^

Actually, most large companies or institutions likely scan all emails coming in and going out and log them for this exact situation.  Two companies I worked for were audited for various reasons and we had to pull a couple years worth email records.  Large institutions don't take chances and a lot of the logging is mandated for compliance reasons.

I've also known friends that got fired for applying to a jobs via email at work b/c their employer scanned all emails sent and received.  Safe bet to assume anything you send/receive on the internet will be logged and saved somewhere.  Paranoid?  Probably a little.

Blazefire

March 8th, 2011 at 10:29 PM ^

On a private email server for a company, or in this case, university, not so much Emails deleted from your inbox on these servers are already backed up on tape drives and backup drives and everywhere else simply so nothing vital or irreplaceable is ever lost.

Publicly, it's hard to get a warrant to access a public email server, but usually the same backups and protection are in place. It's almost impossible to get rid of emails permanently unless you can actually get unrestricted access to the server room where your account is hosted.

Bodogblog

March 8th, 2011 at 10:42 PM ^

my company.  I find it hard to believe it would be true in others - if nothing is ever deleted, space is never freed up.  Companies are forever trying to get employees to delete old files to free up space.  And why would any organizations want to keep useless (e.g. spam) files in perpetuity?