Tom Fornelli article on new staff
Should be a nice update on the complete coaching staff but several errors make this a bad read.
First Tom Fornelli misstates that Campbell has no OC experience. Of course, he does with FBS school ODU sandwiched between roles at PSU and UM.
Then, he states, "With a first-time offensive coordinator in Newsome, ..." which maybe was just a simple misstatement that he's a first-time offensive line coach.
Bottom line. This was a mediocre article about an overhauled national championship winning staff that could have provided much more substance.
I'm obviously spoiled by the staff at MGoBlog and the depth of the analysis that we enjoy here.
February 27th, 2024 at 1:40 PM ^
You've convinced me not to click on it.
February 27th, 2024 at 4:37 PM ^
I did click it. That's two minutes I'll never get back.
February 27th, 2024 at 1:44 PM ^
pure lazy...thanks for the heads up...doesn't deserve a click
February 27th, 2024 at 1:45 PM ^
This is more on his editor than on him. Their job is to prevent unforced errors like these.
February 27th, 2024 at 3:25 PM ^
Editor! What a nice, albeit archaic, concept.
February 27th, 2024 at 4:20 PM ^
I agree that editors are a necessary last line of defense for obvious errors like this, but serious journalists will get their facts correct and proofread their own stuff first before handing it off.
February 28th, 2024 at 12:20 PM ^
Some journalists are better than others, but overall the adage remains true that you tend to believe any newspaper article except those that you actually have first-hand knowledge of. Most "news" is filled with errors, omissions and hyperbole--usually from laziness and/or the need to make the item more salacious and interesting to readers who thirst for such.
February 27th, 2024 at 1:45 PM ^
If you can find this (https://twitter.com/dennisdoddcbs) guy on the CBS Sports site, that should be your first warning. It's like "College Game Day" in the level and quality of analysis.
February 27th, 2024 at 2:00 PM ^
1000x
February 27th, 2024 at 1:46 PM ^
Fornelli is a national guy with an eye on the B1G in general (he's an Illinois fan so at least some respect for that alone). I think he does a really good job generally and that this article is a really nice article for a casual who doesn't follow MGoBlog. It's unfortunate that they apparently can't afford an editor, as you noted, but he's generally been a good read/listen (Cover 3 Podcast) throughout the season and generally takes a reasonable stand on all things Michigan.
ETA: one thing I always tend to notice is when national folks call someone a good recruiter. That tends to carry more weight to me than when we here it internally. Especially from a guy like Fornelli who is plugged in nationally, talks to Bud Elliot all week, and wouldn't say it if it wasn't consensus.
February 27th, 2024 at 2:27 PM ^
National writers are never going to have level of depth and detail of the MGoBlog writers but overall Tom and the Cover 3 gang have done a good job covering the B1G and Michigan over the years. Last August, a couple of them (I specifically remember Danny Kanell) picking Michigan to win the National Championship.
Also, during the worst of SignGate, these guys (except for Danny ironically) were at the forefront of defending Michigan and basically saying it was a big ball of nothing being pumped by the media for clicks. Bud Elliott went as far as to say that any coaching not trying to push the envelope / bending the rules isn't doing their job.
February 27th, 2024 at 2:35 PM ^
Co-signed. The national guys know a very little bit about a lot of schools. We know everything there is know about one school (and quite a bit more than most about a couple of others).
What's frustrating is when you realize that the vast, vast majority of non-Michigan fans form their opinion on things based solely on the generalizations of national media talking heads like him. That's why sign-gate was such a HUGE HUGE deal to the normies, that's what they've been led to believe.
February 27th, 2024 at 3:31 PM ^
What's frustrating is when you realize that the vast, vast majority of non-Michigan fans form their opinion on things based solely on the generalizations of national media talking heads like him.
I mean, this is pretty much 95% of the population on 95% of issues.
February 27th, 2024 at 3:58 PM ^
https://effectiviology.com/knolls-law/
Knoll’s law of media accuracy is the adage that “everything you read in the newspapers is absolutely true, except for the rare story of which you happen to have firsthand knowledge”.
Essentially, Knoll’s law suggests that people often assume that everything they hear in the media is true, except for cases where they’re familiar enough with the story in order to be able to identify the errors it contains, even though the existence of such cases suggests that the media gets other things wrong too.
February 27th, 2024 at 5:25 PM ^
Never heard of this, but it's seems to be spot on.
Do they have a "law" for those of us who assume everything in the media is a lie, because everything we have first hand knowledge of is a lie?
February 27th, 2024 at 5:43 PM ^
Sure. Paranoia.
February 27th, 2024 at 3:03 PM ^
They thought Jay Harbaugh was Jim’s brother in a podcast a few weeks back. Listeners in their chat had to correct them.
I like the cover-3 guys, but they can spread themselves thin when trying to give in-depth analysis as national guys.
February 27th, 2024 at 1:51 PM ^
The errors I've read in reporting of Michigan football the past 6 months has only increased my questioning of every article I read about anything. Journalism is dead.
February 27th, 2024 at 2:22 PM ^
Except when we come here. Thanks to Brian, Seth and the whole gang!
February 27th, 2024 at 4:22 PM ^
The content here is top notch, but it's not error-free either. We notice the errors less because they're hidden in novellas of posts and not one-page fluff pieces where each sentence is its own paragraph.
FTR: this is not a complaint. Writing and editing are difficult undertakings and we have been gifted just about the best.
February 27th, 2024 at 2:03 PM ^
A core requirement of being a journalist is to get the facts straight. You can certainly opine of the meaning of a story, but only if the facts of the story are correct, otherwise you wind up like some well-known national media outlet which distort a story factually for purposes of substantiating an opinion. CBS online has deteriorated from the media outlet of Walter Cronkite and Edward R. Murrow.
February 27th, 2024 at 2:29 PM ^
username checks out.
February 27th, 2024 at 2:34 PM ^
Sadly, CBS is not alone in this deterioration-in-facts accuracy.
February 27th, 2024 at 3:01 PM ^
That's because "journalists" became activists (both sides) and rooting for our team became more important than just telling people the facts. What I find funny is both sides clearly see when the other party's media is doing it but never acknowledge it when it's being done by someone from their party affiliation.
This year that garbage media activism spread to collegiate sports. Pro OSU writers like Thamel and others decided that Signgate was a VERY BIG DEAL because it advanced the interests of the schools they supported and hurt a school they hated. Had 0.0% to due with actual journalism, it was sports activism.
Grampy is right.
February 27th, 2024 at 5:31 PM ^
Now your just pandering for my upvote
/s
February 27th, 2024 at 3:55 PM ^
A core requirement of being a journalist is to get the facts straight.
Um no. In the realm of journalism these days, there are no real facts, just narrative.
February 27th, 2024 at 4:47 PM ^
I miss the days when I'd watch a half hour of the local news followed by a half hour of the national news. When the 24/7 news cycle came along it encouraged sensationalism. Give me Cronkite, Huntley & Brinkley, or Howard K Smith over any of today's clowns. We're absolutely saturated with slanted misinformation, and most people think we're better informed. A talking head today will read a teleprompter and then bring in an "expert" to tell you what to think about what was just said/read. I rather watch paint dry.
February 27th, 2024 at 2:10 PM ^
A lot of CFB writers have never met an editor they can't completely ignore.
Yeah, I don't really get the ding against Campbell when you then talk about Casula's 7 years of OC, which is almost exclusively at Davenport and Ferris St., who Div 2 teams that don't seem to have a ton of relevance for a P5 job.
February 27th, 2024 at 2:30 PM ^
I know there are some personal issues going on, but it was my assumption that Mike Hart was no longer on the staff. It is, or will be, a pleasant surprise if he is returning.
February 27th, 2024 at 2:40 PM ^
Probably smart mindset to avoid disappointment, but with the Chargers hiring an RBC and it being so late in the process, I expect him back.
February 27th, 2024 at 2:32 PM ^
Campbell info has been edited. "The 37-year-old Campbell has no previous Power Five coordinator experience"
February 27th, 2024 at 2:34 PM ^
It (now?) says "first time P5 OC," but the Newsome as OC line is still there.
February 27th, 2024 at 3:05 PM ^
The world we live in.
February 27th, 2024 at 3:08 PM ^
Most Youtube bloggers also mostly know less than what's conveyed here. We're spoiled.
February 27th, 2024 at 4:47 PM ^
I always get a kick out of the YT video headlines of 'breaking news' or similar. The few times I have clicked on them it was shit we knew about weeks before on Mgoblog.
We truly are a spoiled fanbase because of Brian and Seth. And others. Also, we're the National Champions!
February 27th, 2024 at 7:57 PM ^
3 to 1 AI clickbait.
February 27th, 2024 at 3:13 PM ^
Maybe Fornelli read this post, because he fixed the things you mentioned.
February 27th, 2024 at 4:06 PM ^
Maybe, we’re his editor!
February 27th, 2024 at 3:23 PM ^
Looks like he fixed everything (maybe he found our thread). I do like Fornelli - he is a consistently good commentator on Cover 3 and correctly shrugged off Signgate as being completely overblown.
February 27th, 2024 at 3:23 PM ^
Thanks for posting an article we shouldn’t read.
February 27th, 2024 at 3:35 PM ^
"Bottom line. This was a mediocre article about an overhauled national championship winning staff that could have provided much more substance."
I very nearly read it. Thank you for the warning.
February 27th, 2024 at 4:10 PM ^
This thread was more valuable to read then the article.
February 27th, 2024 at 4:14 PM ^
Article was ok but I don't agree with the concern that Martindale hadn't coached college in 20 years. Coaching in the NFL with good success is far more valuable than a lifelong college coach who couldn't get to pros, or, get to pros and flame out.
February 27th, 2024 at 4:44 PM ^
I'm with you in your thought of a tenured and successful NFL coach is a better coach than lifelong college coach. And while I don't want to agree with Fornelli cuz I think he's a tool, but usually when people make statements like that they are solely referring to the recruiting aspect of it. I'd bet that is why he mentioned it.
And I would agree with that, except we didn't hire Wink to recruit. Sherrone knew damn well what he was gonna get with him in regards to that and backfilled the defensive staff with guys who are gonna recruit the hell out of players - Scruggs, Morgan and Jean-Mary.
February 27th, 2024 at 5:29 PM ^
Bottom line. This was a mediocre article
So why link it?
February 27th, 2024 at 6:19 PM ^
Fornelli is usually pretty good, but it was a poor article - provided no new information, and had inaccuracies.
February 27th, 2024 at 6:20 PM ^
After you said "mistake" I moved on!
February 27th, 2024 at 8:09 PM ^
No mention of our S&C coach, strange how few people know what a crucial role that is at the college level.
February 27th, 2024 at 8:12 PM ^
I'm posting inaccurate trash, but you should read inaccurate trash?