Tennessee Vols Recruiting
So Tennessee has been tearing up the recruiting trail for the past two weeks. Two 5-stars and four 4-stars were signed in the past two weeks. All this for a team that has been sub-.500 in half of their seasons for the past ten years.
If they can do this after being "down" for so long, why does it still seem like Michigan is lagging behind? What does Jeremy Pruitt bring to the table that Jim Harbaugh (or staff) does not? Going from 4-8 to 8-5 in two years is a plus, but to start like this seems more in the realm of Ole Miss and their Treadwell class. I'm leaning towards the obvious "more probable than not" checks that are being signed down in Knoxville now.
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Honestly, is this a rhetorical question? They are cheating their asses off, and if you don't believe that, I have a Covid 19 cure to sell you.
Yes.
They hired three former 247 Sports National Recruiters of the Year to their staff this offseason. People really need to realize recruiting is about relationships and effort.
The problem for Michigan fans is they think it's about wins and losses. It's not. Elite teams have elite staffs. Elite staff are the ones who recruit elite. Now go look at UM's staff on defense and tell me we have elite recruiters. We don't. In fact, we have liabilities.
Oh yeah, so suddenly Tennessee a dog shit team for the past 20 years can go into Alabama / Florida and beat out teams like Bama, Florida, Auburn and Clemson because they hired “good and honest” recruiters.
If you believe that (you don’t, you are just a troll), but if you do believe that - you are the dumbest son of a bitch ever born.
That's what happens when you make the right coaching hire dumbass. UNC is doing it with Mack Brown right now. Bama did it with Saban. Clemson did it with Dabo. Florida did it with Spurrier. USC with Carroll. OU with Stoops. LSU with Saban. etc. There's a million examples of this through college football history. And it happened right here in Ann Arbor with Bo, because UM football was bad for over a decade before he was hired.
There's no such thing as elite programs anymore only elite coaching, and if you don't believe that you are the dumbest son of a bitch ever born.
You just named a bunch of schools that are known cheaters. UNC, in their defense have like twenty 4 stars instate this year.
So what?
UNC has been terrible forever, has a small ugly stadium that almost never sells out, and no one cares about football there. Who the hell wants to play for UNC?
Mack Brown's recruiting this year is super impressive.
You just named a bunch of schools that are known cheaters. UNC, in their defense have like twenty 4 stars instate this year.
Ah yes the old "everyone is cheating but Michigan routine."
And remind me how instate recruiting is going again this year? Oh that's it's fucking horrible. Yall better pray Spindler and Edwards come here. Already lost out on Payne, Buddin, King twins, and Tiernan. Sam Webb said the relationship at Belleville has gotten so bad UM may stop recruiting the school all together. Thats right Jimmy 3 stars has pissed off one of the top talent producing schools in the state so much that he can't even recruit the school.
What a disaster.
Yall thinks this is some bullshit trolling right here.
Sam said that the relationship with Belleville is so bad we can’t even recruit there anymore?
When did he say this? What would have caused such a deterioration?
Honestly, if what I heard is true, you don’t even want to know.
We definitely do want to know....
No, I really think we do
“We” better pray? Are you not a Michigan fan? I’m confused. Go get your “UNACCEPTABLE!!” tattoo and stop posting.
Can I have what you are smoking please?
Well, you both can't be the dumbest son of a bitch ever born. So who is it?
This is the internet. It is wholly possible that one person logs on with multiple accounts to prove himself the dumbest son of a bitch ever born by arguing with himself over it.
Do you get bitchslapped every day? What kind of loser pays 5 bucks a week just to bitch?
Bad for a decade before Bo was hired for the 1969 season? Bob Timberlake and the Big Ten champions of 1964 would disagree with your statement.
And it happened right here in Ann Arbor with Bo, because UM football was bad for over a decade before he was hired.
Seriously?
The 1964 Michigan Wolverines football team represented the University of Michigan in the 1964 Big Ten Conference football season. In its sixth year under head coach Bump Elliott, Michigan compiled a 9–1 record, won the Big Ten Conference championship for the first time since 1950, and defeated Oregon State in the 1965 Rose Bowl by a score of 34–7. The 1964 Wolverines defeated four teams ranked in the Top 10 in the AP Poll by a combined score of 82 to 17 and finished the regular season ranked No. 4 in both the AP and Coaches' polls. Although no post-bowl polls were taken in the 1964 season, Oregon State coach Tommy Prothro opined after watching game film from the Rose Bowl that the 1964 Wolverines were "the greatest football team he has ever seen."
As the Big Ten Conference champion, Michigan played in the 1965 Rose Bowl, defeating the Oregon State Beavers, 34–7.
Mother’s Day and you’re on your on bullshit on here. What a sad life.
Says the guy who's bedroom and wardrobe looks like a 12 year old.
*whose
I live in a Maize and Blue apartment with my girlfriend who is also an M fan. I'm living the life.
We’ll his mother has been avoiding him for years, so …
Probably social distancing with him for the last 40 years or so.
Bc she’s been with me ;)
Dude we literally just did this whole song and dance with Ole Miss. There's no magic formula and no relationships that overcome being a dog shit program besides money
O.k., but... Serious question: Can't it be both? Do we think Tennessee discovered bag me just this year?
Maybe they have had bag men all along, but in fact they also hired some really good recruiters. I mean, bag men with a bunch of poor recruiters gets a worse result than bag men with stellar recruiters, right?
I can share one example with you. Texas has been dirty going all the way back to their SWAC days. When the “investors” didn’t like the coaching staff they didn’t invest. Prior to Mack Brown agreeing to leave UNC for Texas he wanted assurances the “investors” were going to invest for him. The AD made the rounds and it was a done deal. Mack retires and Charlie Strong comes in. Suddenly the “investors” decide they don’t want to support this guy. AD did not make the rounds on this one and wanted to make a statement. We all saw how that ended.
This is how it works. This is the real job of an AD and head football coach. Make sure all of the resources are aligned and flowing properly. One hitch and a program can be temporarily cratered.
Well if everyone else is “already doing it”, then us continuing to “hold out” just makes us look dumb at this point. Sorta like mGrowOld’s analogy, we might as well go 80 mph on the freeway since that’s what the flow of traffic is at and the authorities have demonstrated they will almost never pull anyone over for going that speed. Sticking at 70 mph in the fast lane just causes traffic hazards and makes you look like a moron
Trueblue...thanks for sharing that. Useful and informative. And really is does sound very plausible as how things went down at Texas.
That’s how it happened. I lived in Austin for 18 years during that whole period and was close friends with different people closely connected to the multiple coaches and some of the bagmen. It was crazy. And no, I was not eating subs.
Kinda sounds like the Carr/RichRod transition.
Im not sure why the negs. This is exactly what is holding us back. Shine the damn light on it as a fanbase because we have All the resources to change it.
I’m legitimately interested to hear how you think Michigan could get the NCAA to do something about the rampant cheating.
On the day Rashan Gary signed, Interim AD Hackett made a public statement about Clemson trying to buy Gary off and it went nowhere.
That same year, Harbaugh legally set up a bunch of satellite camps and the NCAA shut them down immediately saying they were not in line with the intent of the rules.
ESPN/ABC/CBS are in bed with the SEC. Other key programs have, or are also, cheating and will not speak up. A grassroots effort will not change the direction of this trainwreck.
Maybe a grassroots hacking thing, like anonymous, that undeniably (but probably, illegally) exposes all the crap that is going on.
Like what happened to LSU and Coach Wade?
The FBI legally exposed the truth, went public and it didn’t change a thing.
Ya, that will never work. You HAVE to have ABC, NBC, or CBS be the ones to break it. If it’s grass roots, all that will happen is it will be called “conspiracy” and “programs that can’t win trying to create excuses for why they can’t win”.
Thats the power of the media. Unless one of the big dogs spearheads it, it’s just conspiracy. Not a huge deal for sports since it’s just meaningless bread and circus, but it’s a real problem for actual issues.
This is the most straightforward and plain-spoken statement of how things really work that I see here on the board this morning. It's the reason that I watch the games from time to time, but with nothing of the passion I used to. I don't see my belief in any essential fairness ever coming back.
Anybody downvoting you is an apologist, pure and simple. This post is 100% correct. The effort or the message is not there.
By "effort" you mean twenties and hundreds, right?
Do you think Lloyd was cheating? Do you think bc he was recruiting better than this. Do you think Hoke was cheating? Bc he recruited certain positions better than this. Something is off with recruiting and if you can’t see it then I don’t know what to tell you.
LMAO @ you and your stupidity. Thank you for the smile.
Yes - Urban Meyer's top criteria for a coach was how well they recruited and what area of the country they were known to recruit well.
What area of the country was Zach Smith known to recruit well in? His ex-wife’s house?
All from the south except the MD pair.
They're selling hope we're selling results.
That’s pretty much what it this is. They ended last year on a strong run. This is pretty much their equivalent of our 2017 class. Now, what Pruitt does with this is a different matter. But I dont see them competing with the big boys of the SEC anytime soon.