Sean Parker = Donovan Warren?
Doesn't it seam like Sean Parker's recruitment is shaping out to look like Donovan Warren's did? Lets look at the facts.
First, a lot of the recruiting sites were saying that Warren was a lock to go to USC, but he went to Michigan. Parker has both of them in as his favorites. The fact that he's a lock to either of the schools has not been mentioned(to my knowledge).
Second, a little off topic, but they were both highly touted Defensive Backs comming out of Cal.
December 30th, 2009 at 11:02 PM ^
I hope your right, sir.
December 30th, 2009 at 11:36 PM ^
but I completely agree with your sentiment. I hope this kid goes Blue!
December 31st, 2009 at 9:11 AM ^
that you used "but" correctly. It should be used to show contrast.
I think that either
"I don't agree with your grammar but I agree with your sentiment" or "A little part of me wants to correct your grammar but I won't because your sentiment is what is important"
is more appropriate.
Also, shouldn't it be "I hope THAT this kid goes Blue?"
I could be wrong.
December 31st, 2009 at 12:13 PM ^
You are wrong. The "THAT" you speak of is optional.
If I said, "I hope you get everything you want for Christmas" or "I hope we win 10 games this year" or "I hope she says yes," are those incorrect sentences? Do I need to say "I hope THAT she says yes?"
No. You made a grammar mistake (maybe a typo) and someone vaguely pointed it out. Don't get upset. FTR, he also used but appropriately.
December 31st, 2009 at 2:05 PM ^
I wouldn't have nit picked on the response except that he chose to point out the error. Hell, I'm an engineer. I'd be lost without a clerical assistant.
This is a sports forum, not a literary social network. Typos and grammatical errors will happen. My response was meant to be over the top.
However, I am absolutely right about the use of but.
December 30th, 2009 at 11:02 PM ^
Let us pray.
December 30th, 2009 at 11:08 PM ^
Where two or more are gathered...
December 31st, 2009 at 2:56 AM ^
Is he as highly rated as Warren?
December 31st, 2009 at 3:15 AM ^
Not quite. Warren was a 5-star guy, Parker is 4 and outside of the RIvals 250. Parker is still considered by most around these parts to be a stud.
December 30th, 2009 at 11:08 PM ^
Let's hope... if he goes blue...
December 30th, 2009 at 11:19 PM ^
I mean if he comes to michigan i hope he would be better than warren was.
I like warren and think hes a great athlete with untapped potential, and i hope he reaches in in the NFL.
With that said, as highly touted as warren was coming out of high school, i expected him to be more productive at michigan. I understand that injuries hampered him, as well as 3 different systems in 3 years. Not to forget less than par players around him, especially within the secondary. I expected (im not going to go as far as saying #2) a marlin jackson/leon hall type producer out of him but, i don't think he made as much impact as those type of players.
Maybe my outlook would be different on him if we won more games, or played in more big bowl games. Parker would be a great late christmas gift for big blue. GO BLUE.
December 31st, 2009 at 10:50 AM ^
Barely anyone was willing to even throw to Warren's side of the field this year. If that isn't a good indicator of a CB's level of production, I am not really sure what you are looking for in a CB.
December 31st, 2009 at 12:06 PM ^
Actually Warren got thrown on quite a bit. Keep in mind, that inexplicably, Warren often had safety help over the top while the other side was left fend for itself.
While certainly M's best DB and a huge loss, he did not live up to my hopes anyways. M has a solid history of first round CB's and I think Warren could have been, he likely won't be.
Good but not great I guess sums up my feelings about Warren.
December 31st, 2009 at 12:18 PM ^
I think Warren was a great corner who became very disheartened with how bad the defense was this year. It definitely seemed like there was a point this year where he just said, "Fu*k it."
December 30th, 2009 at 11:36 PM ^
Donovan Warren committed because USC and Michigan were in a battle for two players, Ronald Johnson, the former Muskegon standout, and Warren. Warren came to michigan because USC got Johnson, These players both had USC and Michigan in their top two so when one decided to pick USC the other picked Michigan, sort of a interstate swap agreed upon by carrol and carr, according to a recruiting source,.....word on rivals is that michigan is a top Parkers list as he has expressed he would like to leave the state of california, but USC is USC and that could be very tough to turn down i think that Cal is a non factor.
But god knows we need all the help we can get in the secondary, i think this Carvin Johnson could be a real sleeper, does anyone know any new news on Latwan Andersons recruitment?
December 30th, 2009 at 11:41 PM ^
Incorrect. Both UM and USC wanted both Warren and RoJo. I don't have any idea where in the world you got that there was some "swap" agreed to by Carroll and Carr, that isn't even remotely accurate. English visited Warren in Long Beach, got some great vibes that Warren was coming, and then he immediately flew to Muskegon and was denied access to RoJo because USC had corrupted his recruitment.
And Latwan isn't coming here.
December 30th, 2009 at 11:59 PM ^
I said that they both wanted them, so your incorrect, and just because english recruited him doesnt mean there wasnt a swap the source (works his football camp in riverview) knows lloyd personally and thats what lloyd told him, no lies!
December 31st, 2009 at 12:02 AM ^
Your source is wrong. Simple as that. There was no "swap." There was no agreement between Carr and Carroll. That's an asinine thing to even suggest, honestly.
December 31st, 2009 at 12:14 AM ^
what makes your statement true and mine false, your just a blogger like me, and its not a lie, or some crackpot story, (good movie reference with ferris bueller) whos your source that says there wasnt, and i didnt say that it was a literal swap, like lloyd and Pete Carrol called each other up, that was just how the recruitment turned out. Or maybe just explain to me how a michigan kid like johnson just goes to SC and SC the best program on the planet arguably at that time losses a five star prospect in there own city?
December 31st, 2009 at 12:21 AM ^
I'm not exactly sure about the story but from what I've read is that RoJo's mom was really passionate about him not going to Michigan. Apparently she blocked all communication from Michigan. It got so bad that Ron English ended up saying a few things to her that he might want to take back.
December 31st, 2009 at 12:28 AM ^
i didnt know all that, guess il have to do a little more homework on rojo next time.
December 31st, 2009 at 2:32 AM ^
Or just stop posting...either way we both win.
December 31st, 2009 at 11:55 AM ^
im actually a janitor at M.I.T, i didnt know they had internet capabilities in Wyoming.
December 31st, 2009 at 12:46 PM ^
That is a good joke. I've never heard it before.
December 31st, 2009 at 12:28 AM ^
The story's been told a bunch of times, verified by insiders from several different sites. RoJo told the Michigan coaches he was coming more than once. An insider at Rivals was there when he committed to Michigan's coaches in the weight room. On his visit to USC, his family, who at the time was pretty poor financially, managed to help themselves to a day on the town on Rodeo Drive. When they returned from LA, Michigan suddenly found it very difficult to get in touch with RoJo. As I said, when English returned from visiting Warren in SoCal, he attempted to visit RoJo in Muskegon, and was denied entry to the Johnson residence by a man who was not related to them, while RoJo himself sat inside and did nothing, because the situation had been taken out of his hands. When Tony Annesse (former Muskegon head football coach and friend of Michigan) tried to step in and set up a meeting between RoJo and Michigan's coaches at his high school, RoJo's mom caught wind of it, stepped in, and pulled RoJo out of school. The dead period hit, there was no more contact, and RoJo committed to USC at his church, while he and his little brother wore brand new suits and his dad talked about how he felt like he had won the lottery.
That's what happened. There was no swap. No agreement. No nothing. USC came into our state and because they fear no reprisal from the toothless institution known as the NCAA, they did whatever was necessary to take the star player away from us.
December 31st, 2009 at 12:37 AM ^
Thanks man for setting that straight, and yeah carrol is a crook, but i think the even bigger crook is in columbus that effin sweater vest aint foolin me i mean, look at the way the basketball team is pullin recruits, some major booster help is going on, that was the one thing i respected with lloyd the most the way he did it by the book always, just like bo, the true michigan men! I assume i get negatative points because of ridicoulous comments, im not trying to always be in the negative, and better post will come!
December 31st, 2009 at 1:16 AM ^
Goddamned Tressel and his basketball recruiting.
December 31st, 2009 at 8:53 AM ^
I assume i get negatative points because of ridicoulous comments, im not trying to always be in the negative, and better post will come!
Somehow I doubt any "better" posts will come from you.
December 31st, 2009 at 3:21 AM ^
Reading it all again just makes the blood boil, eh?
December 31st, 2009 at 12:03 AM ^
My best friend's sister's boyfriend's brother's girlfriend heard from this guy who knows this kid who's going with the girl who saw Ferris pass out at 31 Flavors last night. I guess it's pretty serious.
December 30th, 2009 at 11:44 PM ^
I wouldn't trust that recruiting source anymore if I was you
December 31st, 2009 at 12:09 AM ^
That may be the single dumbest thing I've ever read.
December 31st, 2009 at 12:30 AM ^
maybe you should read more. Cmon i thought this was a friendly blog.
December 31st, 2009 at 1:24 AM ^
Unless you bow down to the WLA and Rich Rodriguez, and acknowledge that every new coach hired needs at least seven years to get his guyz in and get hizz programzz up and running.
December 31st, 2009 at 2:07 PM ^
Number of WLA posts in this thread before this one: 0. You fail sir.
December 31st, 2009 at 12:15 AM ^
Worst
First
Post
Ever
December 31st, 2009 at 12:40 AM ^
It's actually not entirely untrue. What happened was Lloyd and Pete Carroll made a $1 bet on what happens when a kid from CA is moved to MI and a kid from MI goes to CA. The issue at hand was whether instinct/nature or climate played a role in behavioral and physical conditioning. In the end, RoJo and Donovan Warren, sensing they were being exploited, teamed up to take the coaches down. And this is the real reason that Lloyd left, Michigan had 2 bad seasons, and USC didn't make a BCS bowl this year. Sorry can't tell you how I know this but it's crazy, I know.
December 31st, 2009 at 12:46 AM ^
Hopefully Clarence Beeks can shed some more light on the situation for the rest of us.
December 31st, 2009 at 9:37 AM ^
"Warren came to michigan because USC got Johnson"
Warren did commit to Michigan 3 days before Johnson committed to USC. You make it sound like Johnson went to USC and then Warren was left on the outside looking in and then had to reluctantly go to Michigan.
Do you honestly think Carroll would turn down a 5 star CB like Warren? Especially if he was already thinking of Johnson as a WR.
December 30th, 2009 at 11:40 PM ^
Did Warren have a "half" brother who committed to usc the year before?
December 30th, 2009 at 11:52 PM ^
Not only are they both from Cal, but they are both from parts of LA very close to each other (LB and Harbor City). Donovan was much more hyped, top 25 player. If Sean Parker is as good as Donovan, I'll be happy.
December 30th, 2009 at 11:54 PM ^
The part where your comparison ends is that they are different positions
December 30th, 2009 at 11:56 PM ^
I am just not sure about Warren being truly awesome. Maybe I am a pessimist, but I only think of him as good.
Parker could be just as good. Better? Hopefully we see!
December 31st, 2009 at 4:53 AM ^
I agree. I like the kid and think he's good but I don't understand why everyone is saying that they wish that Sean Parker can hopefully be somewhat as good as Donovan. Hell, i'd be much more happy if he was as good as Shazor or a Marlin Jackson. Donovan has talent, no doubt, but he wasn't exactly an All-American in our secondary the last few years.
P.S. "Let's look at the facts" - the OP. There were 2 'facts' you listed and the second was that they were both DB's from CA. Okay...
December 31st, 2009 at 12:21 AM ^
Well when Sean Parker actually commits to us then I'll worry about comparing him with D.Warren. Also Parker would be coming in as a safety not CB so their roles are a bit different.
December 31st, 2009 at 12:28 AM ^
Justin Turner = Donovan Warren
December 31st, 2009 at 12:31 AM ^
I'm with you. With a year under his belt I hope he makes a real impact. RRod doesn't have time to wait on true freshmen..
December 31st, 2009 at 1:42 AM ^
More like Justin Turner = Charles Woodson
December 31st, 2009 at 2:10 AM ^
That's rarified air but here's to hope.
December 31st, 2009 at 3:39 AM ^
I suppose from what I have seen of his style of play, Turner is more similar to Woodson than Warren. If Turner is able to perfect his cover skills while maintaining impeccable ball skills, he could actually be more similar to Woodson than anyone could have imagined.