Scout revamps their player rankings
Scout has revamped their rankings again, some are up and some are down. Chris Fox is down, Ben Gedeon and Jourdan Lewis are amongst the risers. Your thoughts?
beat me to the punch. was expecting Taco to have a fourth star...
I'm a little surprised that his most recent camp didn't get him there, only because the scouts seemed impressed by his previously unknown ability to bull rush.
I agree, though. Not a big deal, and a good senior season should easily get him that fourth star.
Gee, I sure hope he gets that 4th star, otherwise there is no way he can be a good player for Michigan.
I'm more surprised by Taco's coach than with Scout's rankings. How does that kid not start? Maybe he wasn't a perfect fit for their defense, but good coaches find a way to get the best players on the field.
I hate that people are still calling Taco "not a starter" last year. Its much more complicated than that to be honest. He himself on his own twitter refuted that claim a while ago. The whole Non-Starter thing is Ohio State BS that needs to stop over here. He complained about people saying that about him. Think about it. The kid is damn good. There's 4 guys on the D-Line. Pickerington is not exactly a powerhouse in Ohio and you really think there were 4 guys better than him? Hell no. If you don't believe me, go to the Ohio Recruiting site and check out his film. Its almost 7 mins long where he's defending against the run AND the pass. Do you really think a true non-starter could amass 7 minutes of highlights in one season of football?? He makes A LOT of plays throughout the film and isn't overly lacking in any part of his game, at least no more than any other recruit. The whole "non-starting" thing is a rumor gone amok, being perpetuated by Ohio. Pass it on
Just because Ohio State people say it doesn't make it untrue.
I didn't miss that. But I also know that kids sometimes embellish the truth to suit their own purposes.
Isn't that kind of the point, though? There aren't many other players who have 7-minute highlight videos and are backups...because most top recruits aren't benched in any of their defensive packages.
Well, I see weaknesses (not that my opinion is more valid than yours) and clearly so do the analysts at Scout. That doesn't mean we're right, but it means that opinions vary...and there's nothing wrong with that. Who was right and wrong will be sorted out in 3-5 years.
Can you link to these sources? This isn't something I'd heard before, so I'm interested to see what they said.
I know if I were a recruit, I'd be pissed if people (including my own fanbase) kept perpetuating misinformation about me and my abilities to see the field in High School.
First thing I noticed as well.
This is nuts.
Dawson dominates Price et al.
Price stays as 4star DT. Dawson moves 2 spots.
Taco dominates everyone. Stays as 3 star.
I think you have to be more conservative with the adjustments especially this early on. There are a lot of camps and combines this summer, and if you adjusted the rankings based on how players did head to head every week, it would just get ridiculous.
By the time they have the final rankings out, they will have a lot more camp film and game film on the thousands of D1 prospects out there. They will probably have it right by then.
For those interested, I saw somewhere that Rivals will be updating its ratings in two weeks.
I'd expect more changes in the Rivals rankings, since they're pretty dusty now that several months have passed without any updates.
Do people think C'Sonte will move up in the rankings shortly, now that he has committed to Michigan? Because of increased attention and the like.
Across the services, the most confusing prospect to me is WR Jordan Cunningham from Florida, who was just offered by Michigan. The kid has offers from Alabama, Florida, Florida State, Georgia, LSU, Miami, Michigan, Nebraska, Notre Dame, Ohio State, Oklahoma, Stanford, and USC, among others.
ESPN has him rated where you'd expect: #4 WR, #32 overall. Both 247 and Scout are weirdly unimpressed, though -- #59 WR to 247 and #69 WR to Scout.
The fact that he's from Florida surprises me even more. Usually the recruiting services camp out in Florida just so they can analyze as many of their recruits as possible. Must go to a small school...?
With so many recruits and not much time for the recruiting services to get a comprehensie glimpse of what's out there, it seems that this is a kid that slipped through the cracks. They probably saw his early offers, gave him a generic 3*, and figured they'd re-evaluate and just haven't (yet).
This is quite qn impressive group.......shuddering with excitement
Smith @ 7 is exciting.
Dawson @ 6? Isn't he generally considered the #1 G?
York seems really underrated, but I think he may move up like Pipkins did.
And I'm pretty sure they have Taco Charlton confused with Taco Pants.
I don't know what you're talking about. Taco Pants is a consensus 5 star. Have you seen some of the catches that man has made?
While I agree Taco Pants is a consensus 5* WR, but probably #30 DE; I think Charlton may be better at DE than #30.
Scout has always underrated guys who are made of dreams.
Actually, Taco Pants is a beast. He's the unanimous #1 recruit in the nation. You're the confused one, MaizeMN.
Edit: GAH!!!!!! +1 for beating me to it.
If arguablly the best Dcoordinator in college football wants a player, I do not care about the stars. If Mattison wants the guy and the ratings agencies say 3, I trust Mattison over all of them.
Here are the moves (up and down) by Michigan targets on the list:
http://www.touchthebanner.blogspot.com/2012/05/scout-300-for-2013-updat…
How the FUCK is Taco Charlton a 3 star? Scout... wow. You have outdone yourself this time.
He didn't even start for his high school team last year. Why are people so upset about this?