Scott Frost to UCF (opponent in 2016)

Submitted by ypsituckyboy on

Despite Football Scoop's BK Finest of Dino Babers (Bowling Green) to UCF, it looks like they've snagged the Oregon OC and noted Husker QB to lead them. Hopefully his mom takes it easy on the UCF message boards (funny story there).

ypsituckyboy

December 1st, 2015 at 9:04 AM ^

1. Not too pumped about our "cupcake" game being against a spread/inside zone team with a bunch of Florida kids.

2. UCF has an enrollment of 60,000+! That's a lot of human beings for a directional school.

alum96

December 1st, 2015 at 9:32 AM ^

Fans of UM 2008 should know that well. Who knows if they even have a qb if that style.

He is less if a known than Gary Andersen who we faced this yr and you saw that sh&tshow. They installed a spread with a a new qb and it led to a rousing 2-10. It takes good coaches a few yrs if they are not sitting on stockpiles of 4 stars from previous regime.

I know we have a PTSD fanbase but we aren't coached by hoke anymore...try to remember that as you fear 0-12 teams.

Everyone Murders

December 1st, 2015 at 9:16 AM ^

Honest question - is "Central" a direction?  Even with some fondness for our friends in Mt. Pleasant, I'm of an opinion that "Central" is a location.

What's my point?  That "Central" is what you name a school after all the other major directions are taken.  So it resides as a fourth tier (out of five I can think of, leaving off schools named for historical figures) in the general public university hierarchy:

  • University of _____________
  • _________ State University
  • Directional University
  • University of Location
  • Location State University*

 

*Exceptions, of course exist.  Witness Wayne State, which is a better academic institution than this rough hierarchy would suggest.

ypsituckyboy

December 1st, 2015 at 9:21 AM ^

As I wrote "directional", the same question occurred to me.

Your point about the other directional schools (Eastern, Western, etc) as directions being taken is a good one, but it assumes that your starting spot is the "Central" spot. However, Central could also be a destination if your point of origin is someplace other than Central. The same could be said about all the other schools.

Wheretofor, I think the answer to this age old question is relative and depends upon your point of origin.

Mabel Pines

December 1st, 2015 at 9:23 AM ^

always kind of annoyed me. Seems snooty to me. But I did get a kick out of it when we had a super snooty neighbor who thought her kids were so great and always mocked the "directional" schools and then her youngest went to Western.

Everyone Murders

December 1st, 2015 at 9:48 AM ^

It's snooty, it's inaccurate (hi Northwestern!), it's insensitive (hi smart kids who can't afford snootier schools or just don't want to be far from home), it's ignorant (hi many smart people who went to directional state schools and went on to do great things), and so on.  Reading the OP I had an epiphany that this sort of snobbery could be taken to another level (depth?) by adding a couple of tiers to the hierarchy.

Put another way, I was going for the cheap laugh.  As I'm wont to do ... .

(I do think far too many kids go to four-year colleges, when they'd be better served learning a trade or going to a good community college.  And I know many in their mid-20s who regret going to a middling four-year school with no job prospects after graduation.  But that's a whole other topic.)

stephenrjking

December 1st, 2015 at 10:55 AM ^

I think "directional" has become shorthand for various "regional" universities in different states that aren't considered to be the elite schools. Many of them have "directions" attached to them, and while they are typically good schools with some unique offerings that do draw people from all over, their primary constituency consists of students from the general area, many or most of whom cannot qualify and/or afford the "higher level" schools in or out of state.

In this case "Central" is the region, obviously. If they used the naming philosophy present in Wisconsin or Minnesota, it would be called "UF-Orlando." If they used California's shorthand, "FSU-Orlando." Instead, like Michigan, they address the general area.

Princetonwolverine

December 1st, 2015 at 11:57 AM ^

I now live between Ft. Myers and Naples. We are definitely SOUTH Florida and to distinguish ourselves from the East Coast (Ft. Lauderdale, Miami) we call our selves SouthWest FL. 

Being down here it is hard to believe the University of South Florida is 2.5 hrs north in Tampa. 

MI Expat NY

December 1st, 2015 at 10:16 AM ^

Just looking at the state makes it pretty clear that typical designations of "west, east, south, and north" don't work for the state of Florida.  Does "east florida" encompas the entire atlantic coast?  Tampa is certainly south of a good chunk of the state, but it's well to the north of large population areas down by Miami.  Where is the cut-off for "west Florida?"  Etc.  

Central Florida is about the only geographical designation that makes sense.  If you're eyeballing it, Orlando is pretty damn close to smack dab in the middle.  

Brodie

December 1st, 2015 at 9:50 AM ^

I'd note that most University of [CITY] schools are private while the vast majority of urban public universities adhere either to the [CITY] State or University of [STATE] at [CITY] formula with no comment on quality. Also, directional names have their origins in the age of normal schools and teacher colleges, where every state had approximately 1500 normal schools that needed an easy disambiguation.

Sidenote: Directional Michigan schools have mildly misleading names, neither K-zoo or Ypsi are at any kind of extreme with only Northern and Central making sense. The University of South Florida is the worst offender, though, being located far north of the metro area commonly called South Florida, on the opposite side of the state. 

Autostocks

December 1st, 2015 at 11:41 AM ^

I like this.  But I don't think you can assume "Central" is what you use when all the directions are taken.  For example, CMU is damn near the middle of the lower peninsula.  Even if it was the first "directional" school in Michigan, "Central" would seem appropriate, and certainly more appropriate than any directional heading.  I'd lump the Centrals of the world in category 3.

Brodie

December 1st, 2015 at 9:31 AM ^

Florida is the third largest state in the country and yet it has 12 public universities. For comparison, California has 32, Texas has 35 and New York has 34. Michigan, with half of Florida's population, has 13 (15 if you count each UM branch campus).

bluesalt

December 1st, 2015 at 9:11 AM ^

And then to Nebraska if everything goes well (for him at least. It won't have gone well for Nebraska if they make another head coaching switch that soon, I guess.)