JonnyHintz

September 29th, 2019 at 3:20 PM ^

Why would a multimillionaire leave his cushy gig where he’s revered as a God, has an easy ticket to the CFP every year, and already established his team/system decide to come to another school to rebuild that program in his image for a bit more cash in a much tougher situation? 

On top of that, why wouldn’t the school hes currently at match any offer thrown his way? 

Short answer, not on your life. 

rainingmaize

September 29th, 2019 at 5:03 PM ^

OU would find a way to match what we would offer, or get close enough to our offer to keep him. Its not like that athletic department lacks money. 

Also, Riley has zero ties to the midwest and is close to his Texas family/roots. Also, he has a great thing going at OU. Great facilities, geographical access to recruits, great team, doesn't have to play OSU, Penn State, MSU, Wisconsin, ect. 

Why in the world would he leave all of that to come here? Its delusional to think we have a chance at him.

 

JonnyHintz

September 29th, 2019 at 3:23 PM ^

Harbaugh at least had the ties to the program that made him a realistic shot. Riley has literally no connections to Michigan, is in a MUCH better situation than Michigan, and ZERO incentive to leave his current situation for anything outside of the NFL. 

Not to mention, you’re out of your goddamn mind if you think Oklahoma doesn’t have the ability to match whatever offer Michigan sends his way. 

JonnyHintz

September 29th, 2019 at 5:45 PM ^

No, this logic works in every real way. 

Why would a coach leave a perennial CFP team, in a fantastic situation, with easy access to recruits, a clear path to a conference title game at worst... to coach a team that hasn’t won a conference title in 15 years, and plays in one of if not THE toughest division in college football?

Take of your Maize and Blue shades here for a minute. There is absolutely ZERO benefit for Riley to leave his current situation for ANYWHERE not called the NFL. 

Now again, I didn’t say money was an issue for Michigan. The issue is, Oklahoma can pay him just as much as Michigan can. Unless you’re talking about wanting to pay a coach upwards of $15 million per year, there’s not a number that Oklahoma can’t/won’t match. It’s not that money is a factor on Michigan’s side, it’s that you’re not going to outbid Oklahoma enough to entice Riley to leave his situation there. 

Only Michigan homers would believe they have the pull to go out there and grab the hottest coach from one of the top programs in the nation. These types of expectations are simply unrealistic. 

You want to get a coach? You have to be providing him a situation that is better than his current situation. Michigan is not a better situation than Oklahoma. Giving him a $2 million pay raise (which Oklahoma would match in a heartbeat) doesn’t change the fact that his current situation is infinitely more appealing than what Michigan would present.  

Muttley

September 29th, 2019 at 5:08 PM ^

Sure, let's say Lincoln Riley wants to maximize his expected lifetime earnings.

That expectation needs to consider getting fired.  If he sees Harbaugh getting fired, his calculation probably reaches a conclusion that he needs to double his salary (currently $6M) to compensate for the risk.

Sure, Michigan **could** offer $12M, but that would cause a good deal of outrage.

JonnyHintz

September 29th, 2019 at 5:53 PM ^

Moorhead went 8-5 in his first year and is currently 3-2. Not sure how that’s “not doing well,” as Miss State offered him an extension after that first year. 

but he’s certainly doing well enough that taking a HUGE demotion to coach Rutgers isn’t on his plate. At least not as a positive career trajectory move. 

“If Rutgers doesn’t cheap out.” I’ll let you go ahead and look at the financial records of the Rutgers athletics department for yourself, and then add in the fact that they’re paying Ash/McNulty about $9 million in their buyouts. Then let you decide if they want to get into a bidding war with SEC money. 

Durham Blue

September 29th, 2019 at 10:56 PM ^

Why would the HC of Miss St willingly leave and go to Rutgers?  I saw the comments about him knowing the Jersey area but Rutgers is going nowhere fast.  If he does reasonably well at Miss St this season he could probably nab a much better job.  Rutgers is a 4-year rebuild, minimum.  And even then the hard ceiling is probably 8 wins with a 9 or 10 win season every 20 years.

M-Dog

September 29th, 2019 at 11:03 PM ^

Look at that schedule . . . it's not exactly Michigan/Ohio State/Penn State/MSU every year, with at least one of Wisconsin/Iowa/Nebraska also thrown in.

Even in their illustrious best-ever 2006 year, they would have been a 4 or 5 loss team in the Big Ten.

If Sciano goes back there, he can't rescue them and "return them to glory" as long as they are still in the Big Ten. 

That job is poison.

 

 

 

Mpfnfu Ford

September 29th, 2019 at 9:35 PM ^

Nah, that turned out to be a total mirage. 

All the teams that had won the Big East for most of its history as a football league left in 04 or so to join the ACC. So someone had to win games, right? And the league still had that BCS bowl. So it basically became a super mid major since there was no historical top teams left in the league, and schools there could outrecruit any regular mid major due to the auto bowl bid. 

A lot of guys put up records that turned out to be fraudulent. We all know about Rich Rod, but the Big East also gave us Charlie Strong, Butch Jones, Schiano (failed at Tampa, failed miserably as Ohio’s DC), Randy Edsall and I’m probably forgetting one or two more. Best I can figure, the only guy who came off a Big East run who didn’t flop was Brian Kelly at Notre Dame. 

Basically, if every team worth a dang in your league leaves, but you don’t lose your auto bid, someone’s gotta win the games. They don’t just cancel em. But he was a fraud there and he’s a fraud now and I expect him to go 2-10 every year. 

Connie_Bow

September 29th, 2019 at 3:13 PM ^

Chris Ash is actually a great DB coach. He coached safeties at Ohio St the year they dominated Oregon in the National Championship. Analyst might be a great place for him.

Then next season coach safeties and move Chris Partridge back to LBs. 

Eng1980

September 29th, 2019 at 8:27 PM ^

Um, I don't doubt that Ash is a good coach but I wouldn't reference the Oregon game.  Between the last game of the season, the PAC-12 championship game, and the two rounds of the CFP, Oregon lost 9 receivers to injury or suspension.  They finished playing OSU by putting running backs at wide receiver.