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Roy Manning to Michigan as Outside LB coach?

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Roy Manning to Michigan as Outside LB coach?

Check out his twitter profile...

https://twitter.com/CoachRoyM

EDIT: Picture if you don't like clicking links, you savage:

"It would be a travesty, it would be ridiculous to all of a sudden come back and get the feeling back, get the health back, feel good again and then all of a sudden go throw some other colors on my shirt and go coach."

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March 4th, 2013 at 3:22 PM | If so, it's a great hire. (Score:5 Normal)
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If so, it's a great hire. Well done.

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March 4th, 2013 at 3:24 PM | Wow!  Great hire.  Great (Score:5 Normal)
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Wow!  Great hire.  Great find.  Nice job digging that up.  

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March 4th, 2013 at 3:24 PM | Great hire. (Score:5 Normal)
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Great hire.

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March 4th, 2013 at 3:25 PM | I've heard in recent days (Score:5 Normal)
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I've heard in recent days that Michigan was probably going to hire someone from outside the "Michigan family" but I've been advocating for Manning since Montgomery left.  I hope he's the choice.

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March 4th, 2013 at 3:39 PM | One of the criticisms of Carr (Score:2)
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One of the criticisms of Carr wan not developing a UM coaching tree, so I would be fine with trying to bring some fresh blood into the 'UM family' as long as they're, you know, good at coaching and recruiting. That said, I've read nothing but good things about Manning's re recruiting, so I would be happy with him as well.

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March 4th, 2013 at 3:46 PM | That was all hogwash, anyway. (Score:4 Normal)
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That was all hogwash, anyway.  Coaching trees (not that they matter a great deal) are really unclear for a long time.  A bunch of his charges are now becoming defensive coordinators, offensive coordinators, and position coaches (Morrison, Wheatley, Hart, Hoke, Manning, Bedford, Loeffler, etc.), and several have coached in the NFL, too.  We might not really see the extent of his "coaching tree" for another 10-15 years, because some of his players are still finishing out their playing days or working their way up through the coaching ranks.

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March 4th, 2013 at 4:09 PM | Magnus, your statement stinks (Score:3 Normal)
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Magnus, your statement stinks of bias.  Look at how many Big Ten head coaches are from Tressel's tree:

Dantonio

Beckman

Hazell

 

Now, I loved Lloyd.  However, the criticism you mention above is and was probably well-deserved.

 

 

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March 4th, 2013 at 4:20 PM | Well, if you're counting them as successes (Score:5 Normal)
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Hoke, Stan Parrish, Mike Debord, and Ron English have been Lloyd assistants. Only one of them has really had success, (Though I'd say just being not completely sucky at Eastern is an accomplishment), but the only one who has proven anything there is Dantonio. The others might not be long for their current jobs either. (And Beckman was only on the staff for like 2 years). And Tressel was a head coach for 25 years (compared to 13). Not saying Tressel's tree is bad either. Sure you can say "Big Ten" but if you had done it one year ago it the list would have been "Dantonio."  So a lot can change in a couple of years. Which was the point Magnus was making.

"I love him, he's a great coach, he's a great mentor, he's a great friend. He's every single thing you want a college coach to be, and he does it flawlessly." -David Molk

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March 4th, 2013 at 4:29 PM | ...and how do you know that (Score:4 Normal)
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...and how do you know that Lloyd Carr assistants/players won't be head coaches in the next five or ten years?  Or that the three coaches you mentioned will be the end of the Tressel coaching tree?  You don't, which is the point of my post above.

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March 4th, 2013 at 6:17 PM | Wait I thought you were goin (Score:-1 Flamebait)
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Wait I thought you were goin to get hired? I guess the 3.5mil a year was too high to be the DLine coach..damn was hoping to see a mogobloger on the sidelines coaching

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March 4th, 2013 at 6:25 PM | They considered Magnus, but (Score:5 Normal)
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They considered Magnus, but thought he'd be a poor recruiter for telling every kid that he sucks.

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March 4th, 2013 at 7:02 PM | ***turrible pad level (I (Score:2)
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***turrible pad level (I always hear Magnus speak is a Sir Charles voice, must be the BG avatar)

Blue is Faster

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March 4th, 2013 at 7:28 PM | The truth is that I was (Score:4 Normal)
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The truth is that I was offered, but I turned it down because I don't like the Adidas gear.

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March 5th, 2013 at 11:23 AM | Why is this flamebait ? (Score:-1 Flamebait)
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Why is this flamebait ?

If you see someone in an airport with Michigan logos on luggage and they are wearing a pilot uniform come say hello.

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March 4th, 2013 at 3:41 PM | I remember you said this and (Score:1 Flamebait)
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I remember you said this and I was hoping for this hire as well

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March 4th, 2013 at 3:50 PM | Why do you feel that way? Not (Score:4 Normal)
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Why do you feel that way? Not that I disagree at all, but what would make Manning a good hire, in your opinion?

"Gentlemen, it is better to have died a small boy than to fumble this football." - John Heisman

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March 4th, 2013 at 4:34 PM | He's a local guy, played at (Score:3 Normal)
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He's a local guy, played at Michigan, coached/GAed at Michigan, played in the NFL, young, black, ties to the midwest, and played a very similar position to what he'll be coaching.  I think it's important to have guys on the staff who played at Michigan or have previous experiences there, who know about the traditions and the rivalries and such.

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March 4th, 2013 at 6:28 PM | I'm not trying to be that guy (Score:0 Overrated)
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I'm not trying to be that guy but what does being black have to do with anything?

Bears Beets Battlestar Galactica

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March 4th, 2013 at 6:37 PM | I'm not sure if Magnus meant (Score:5 Normal)
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I'm not sure if Magnus meant it this way or not, but lots of players that we recruit are African American and lots of young kids like having that familiarity especially when they are from farther away. I heard a lot about this with Charlie Strong at Louiville in that it helps when he's going into black homes and has that cultural tie.

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March 4th, 2013 at 6:58 PM | Roy's age and NFL are key (Score:2 Normal)
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A coaching staff needs diversity to maximize combinations of coaches to visit recruits and connect with a wide set of influencers. If Roy is energetic and communicates his NFL playing experience, then he's unique on our staff.

Would Hoke send Roy to connect with a 55-year old, white, Texas HS football coach of aLB recruit? Sure. Would he send Roy to meet with Kyle Berger who probably dreams of LB in the NFL? Sure.

"Everybody wants to be a hero, so to speak.  But it takes everybody."  - Charles Woodson

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March 4th, 2013 at 7:31 PM | You need a diverse coaching (Score:3 Normal)
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You need a diverse coaching staff.  You don't want a bunch of 60-year-old white guys.  You also don't want a bunch of 30-year-old black guys.  Different kids respond to different people, and it would be ideal to have someone who can connect to the kids that the other nine coaches might not be able to reach.

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March 4th, 2013 at 7:49 PM | Exactly.  Some kids are (Score:2 Normal)
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Exactly.  Some kids are impressed by a young guy they can relate to.  Some kids are impressed by a father figure.  Some guys want a coach who is similar to their family, and some want a coach who is the furthest thing from it.  Same goes for the parents, who have a lot of influence over the recruiting process. 

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March 4th, 2013 at 3:25 PM | Hoke uber alles (Score:4 Normal)
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Hoke uber alles

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March 4th, 2013 at 3:32 PM | Really?  We use a Nazi slogan (Score:-1 Trolling)
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Really?  We use a Nazi slogan here, really?

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March 4th, 2013 at 3:34 PM | They were (Score:5 Normal)
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They were Nazi's, Walter?

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March 4th, 2013 at 3:34 PM | http://mgoblog.com/category/u (Score:4 Normal)
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http://mgoblog.com/category/user-tags/hoke-uber-alles

This is home...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GgijdypJUEQ

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March 4th, 2013 at 3:34 PM | You must be new here.  Brian (Score:5 Normal)
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You must be new here.  Brian used that after Hoke was hired because people thought he was pining for RR too much.

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March 4th, 2013 at 8:44 PM | You're right (Score:2)
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Although, in fairness, he was being sarcastic.

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http://mysonsfirstbible.blogspot.com/2013/05/15-things-you-may-have-miss...

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March 5th, 2013 at 9:49 AM | 1. When did expressing one's (Score:-1 Flamebait)
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1. When did expressing one's discomfort with applying Nazi slogans to an institution of higher learning one attended become "trolling?" 2. You didn't understand Brian's point when he wrote it, 3. Not sure if Mgoblog posters can be self reflective, even slightly critical without being censored, called Flamebait or trolls On second thought fellow posters, use the the nazi slogan.

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March 4th, 2013 at 3:35 PM | Have you read this site at (Score:2)
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Have you read this site at all?  Brian came up with it, and I'm pretty sure he and Seth are Jewish.

"It would be a travesty, it would be ridiculous to all of a sudden come back and get the feeling back, get the health back, feel good again and then all of a sudden go throw some other colors on my shirt and go coach."

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March 4th, 2013 at 3:37 PM | Rest easy (Score:5 Normal)
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It's not a Nazi slogan.  Predates the Nazis.  No more Nazi-ish than thinking the Commerce Clause or Supremacy Clause are strictly southern Confederacy governing concepts.

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March 4th, 2013 at 3:38 PM | Its from the German national (Score:5 Normal)
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Its from the German national anthem, and predates Nazis by roughly a century.

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March 4th, 2013 at 3:51 PM | that doesn't make the concept cool; in fact, that was Brian's (Score:-1 Trolling)
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slightly sarcastic point. In fact, historians point to this kind of thinking as one of the roots of Naz. . . oh never mind. 

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March 4th, 2013 at 5:48 PM | If historians are really (Score:3 Normal)
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If historians are really arguing that, they're trying too hard.  Pretty much every European country used similar propaganda in the 19th century to rally its citizens behind the nation. 

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March 4th, 2013 at 4:19 PM | Devil's Advocate: The (Score:2 Normal)
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Devil's Advocate: The swastika also predated the Nazi's. 

Hail.

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March 4th, 2013 at 3:49 PM | Reading will set you free. (Score:2)
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No, it isn't. 

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When the winds of changes shift

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March 4th, 2013 at 3:26 PM | Is it something with the (Score:1)
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Is it something with the picture he posted?

"Are you an official here?Because you've officially given me a boner."

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March 4th, 2013 at 3:27 PM | Or the title? (Score:1 Offtopic)
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Or the title?

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March 4th, 2013 at 3:41 PM | Picture, description (Score:5 Normal)
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Picture, description ("OUTSIDE LB'S COACH UNIVERSITY OF MICHIGAN"), location ("Ann Arbor, Michigan").  Only reason I phrased my forum topic title as a question is because the information was unconfirmed at the time of posting, and there is always a question of `hacking'.

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March 4th, 2013 at 3:28 PM | That and it says he's the OLB (Score:3 Normal)
SAvoodoo
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That and it says he's the OLB coach at U of M.

/not trying to be an ass, though I realize my post comes off that way

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March 4th, 2013 at 3:26 PM | Beyonce! (Score:5 Normal)
evenyoubrutus
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Beyonce!

Not that I loved Rich Rod less, but that I loved Michigan more.

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March 4th, 2013 at 3:28 PM | Great hire (Score:2)
sundaybluedysunday
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It seems to have been a fairly easy choice, very cool for him.

I hope one of his first calls go out to a Mr. Kyle Berger

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March 4th, 2013 at 3:30 PM | lol (Score:-1 Offtopic)
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oops wrong thread

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March 4th, 2013 at 3:37 PM | So (Score:3 Normal)
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That would be the SAM position only?  I thought Mike and Will were coached together

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March 4th, 2013 at 3:41 PM | Correct.  Mark Smith coaches (Score:3 Normal)
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Correct.  Mark Smith coaches the ILB's (MIKE and WILL).  I would assume Manning would also help out with weakside ends (since the positions are similar), special teams, and be heavily involved in recruiting.

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March 4th, 2013 at 3:54 PM | Why two coaches for LB? (Score:2)
michiganinmd
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Magnus - why do you need two coaches for linebacker?  Are the inside and the outside that different?    Would it make sense to have two WR coaches or is where the WRs lineup less important for coaching purposes?

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March 4th, 2013 at 4:54 PM | I don't think LB necessarily (Score:2)
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I don't think LB necessarily requires an extra coach. He was likely mainly hired for recruiting. He still has to coach a group, though.

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March 4th, 2013 at 5:22 PM | It's not necessary to have 2 (Score:4 Normal)
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But it does certainly help. The two positions are actually quite different. My guess is he actually helps with the WDEs quite a bit. Just my thought because the 5-tech, 3-tech, and nose have a lot in common; WDE and SAM have a lot in common (moreso than SAM and MLB have in common); and then the two MLB positions are very similar.

You're going to get an overlap in coaches somewhere because of the number of coaches you're allowed to have.

Offense: QB, RB, Interior O-line, Outside O-line, TEs, WRs.

Defense: Interior D-line, Outside D-line, OLBs, MLBs, CBs, Safeties.

Those are pretty much the positions that need coaches, it's up to the head coach to decide which ones they will overlap.

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March 4th, 2013 at 7:32 PM | ^^^ (Score:2 Normal)
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What he said.

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March 4th, 2013 at 3:44 PM | Wikipedia (Score:2 Normal)
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His wiki page already says he's Michigan's OLB coach.

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