Trader Jack

March 29th, 2016 at 1:53 PM ^

Well, the hope is that Wagner passes Donnal next year and shows as the best option at the 5. At that point, keeping Donnal an additional year just to backup Mo might get in the way of Davis and Teske's development. We'll see, though.

lilpenny1316

March 29th, 2016 at 2:15 PM ^

I've heard nothing about Davis or Teske to say they would be better than Donnal.  One or both of them will likely redshirt next season, so there will be a period of adjustment.  If they progress like Donnal, it may take 1.5 years before they can provide a solid 15-20 minutes.

I just hope Wagner and Donnal improve so much that Beilein is forced to play both of them a ton.

FanNamedOzzy

March 29th, 2016 at 2:44 PM ^

Jesus man, take a breath or something. He never said anything about them being terrible players, he just mentioned that he hadn't heard anything in the scope of "these guys will be immediate impact quality." I think that's fair at this point.

BigBlue02

March 29th, 2016 at 2:56 PM ^

I've heard Davis could impact greatly next year. Recruits reading this blog are sure to love hearing posters tell them they aren't good enough to contribute before they are on campus. And redshirting is extremely rare in basketball. Suggesting either of them will redshirt without an injury is pretty insulting to either. Or both.

BigBlue02

March 29th, 2016 at 4:34 PM ^

I just keep getting flashbacks of when the board was shitting all over Davis because he wasn't a great dunker as a 15 year old sophomore and then he went on to be 1st team all state his junior and senior year. I hate it when people think a recruiting ranking on a website is reason enough to rip on a high schooler

Bodogblog

March 29th, 2016 at 5:38 PM ^

You don't seem to realize your comments can be viewed as dogging on Donnal, as if he's not needed and can be cast aside to make way for newer and in your mind better players. 

This is a message board, and people give their opinions on what's best for the team.  By saying young players may not be ready, or not be as ready to contribute as a RS junior/senior, they are not saying Teske/Davis are bad.  They are not ripping on them.  No more than you are ripping on Donnal.  

BigBlue02

March 29th, 2016 at 7:53 PM ^

I don't have any idea if Davis or Teske are better players than Donnal and I haven't said otherwise. I was responding to someone who said they haven't seen anything to suggest they will be any better than Donnal. Since Davis and Teske are high schoolers and that is the only point of reference in comparison, I was listing things they achieved that Donnal had not. I didn't say anything about what I think Donnal will or can do. I think Donnal improved greatly this year and I've done nothing but say big men usually take a while to develop. I just don't like people writing off high schoolers because their recruiting rankings aren't high enough for them

umumum

March 29th, 2016 at 5:45 PM ^

I don't know whether Davis will be good or not--I do see some skills-- but there are definitely some Doyle parallels.   Neither were ranked in the top 125.  Both played in lower classes in their states.  Neither faced players near their size.  Neither is consider athletic.  Teske at least had decent competition.  Davis is the more likely red-shirt.

lilpenny1316

March 29th, 2016 at 4:28 PM ^

My bad.  Fact remains that Donnal was a 4-star recruit.  And there has been speculation that Teske or Davis may be redshirted.  

http://mgoblog.com/content/hello-jon-teske

By the time Teske arrives, Ricky Doyle and Mark Donnal will be juniors and it's somewhat possible that DJ Wilson is big enough to play some minutes at the 5. A redshirt would be possible, and probably desirable since a kid like Teske is going to keep getting better over the course of his career.

http://mgoblog.com/content/hoops-hello-austin-davis

Posts are tough to project and Davis is tougher than most because of the level of competition he generally goes against. He'll probably take a redshirt and hit Camp Sanderson, whereupon the sluggishness that does show up on film (and is something Davis himself points out as his most pressing issue) should be mitigated. How much? I don't know. I do like bigs with good hands and the ability to finish with either.

With Doyle and Donnal in front of him plus Teske, Michigan can let Davis develop until he's a redshirt sophmore, whereupon he should have a productive, Jordan-Morgan-esque career.

 

Gr1mlock

March 29th, 2016 at 1:31 PM ^

Think this is best for both.  Was clearly passed by Wagner and Donnell this year, and with 2 incoming bigs, just not enough minutes for him.  Good luck elsewhere, hopefully somewhere that never plays Michigan.  

ijohnb

March 29th, 2016 at 1:41 PM ^

only gets us down to even.  We would need one more defection before that could happen.  But....... could it be a grand scheme.  Grant Spike his "release" to avoid any perception that players are being pushed out and then bring him back after?

The question then becomes, can Spike co-exist with Joshua Jackson? (evil plotting laugh)