Rich Rodriguez Craves Better Atmosphere at Michigan Stadium
http://www.annarbor.com/sports/rich-rodriguez-craves-a-better-atmospher…
Hey I got this from AnnArbor.com, courtesy of Dave Birkett. I do appreciate the older Alumni and the money they bring to UofM however sometimes they make the Stadium boring and are too old fashioned. Coach Rodriguez wants this to change, face it he's changing Michigan and making it modern. Rodriguez is an innovator and in my opinion, a leader not a follower. When he finally rights this ship I honestly believe the Big Ten will be in UofM's rearview mirror.
Edit: A few people were bitching because the story was in the body so I removed it yet there is nothing illegal about that. The same people who are against a fun football game and would like you "down in the front!" to sit on ur hands and shut your trap! Football? There's no fun in football!!
Please see post on Countdown to Kick Off....
Rework Red Hot Chilli Peppers Song "Especially in Michigan"
as "All in for Michigan"
Techno Hip Hoppy band Brassy has two great songs
"Play Some D"
"Hit Em Hard"
Have RHCP play a guitar version of The Victors purportedly played
at Columbus Concert in Value City Hall.
rich rod and i are in cahoots
Maybe it's just me, but I think "crave" is just the funniest verb possible. I can picture Rich Rod sitting at his desk in Schembechler Hall with his left sleeve rolled up, a syringe laying on the floor, and his knee hitting the underside of his desk in quick rhythm. "Oh, COME ON GODDAMMIT, I need a better atmosphere at Michigan Stadium. Fuck! This hurts!"
Well, get that man a Crave Case (TM) of better atmosphere, goddammit! I wish the OP was titled, "Rich Rodriguez Craves Better Atmosphere at Michigan Stadium, Delicious Sliders".
You just copy/pasted the whole article. The link would have sufficed.
Thanks anyways.
Digital Millennium ain't got SHIT on MGOBOARD muthafuckaz
Are you one of those guys? I copy/pasted the article and provided the link. If youd rather go to the link then go ahead and scroll down, its not a long article.
I figured some people would of rather just skipped a step and read it here. Excuuuuuse me.
Sorry, I took my lumps and was not like this but now I am. I guess if you took the effort then fine; I read the stuff on the board and looked at the link hoping for more only to be crushed.
copy-pasting the entire article is illegal. I like saving a click as much as the next guy but I don't want to see Brian get sued.
Is it illegal even when I give the source and the link Captain Oblivious? Never claimed it to be my own informtion. Is it any different than going to a regular blog website where they copy an article and give their input?
The link is enough.
If you want to make a specific point, then a quote from the article is appropriate.
It's copyright infringement. Look up the Fair Use Doctrine and the lawsuits the AP (Associated Press) have filed for this very thing. No need to be a dick, you are wrong here.
EDIT: A line from Wikipedia for any remaining doubters: "Copyright is a matter of law. Citing sources generally prevents accusations of plagiarism, but is not a sufficient defense against copyright violations (otherwise, anyone could legally reprint an entire copyrighted book just by citing who wrote it)."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fair_use
in a totally emotionless post in an effort to help people gets downrated, you know the system is being abused.
If Rodriguez would get his head out of his @#$%##@#$$ $%^$# and spend his @#@#$%# time coaching the @#$%#@#@#$ football team and win some $##%^$#@&^% football games he would get all the #$%^%$## involvment he craves. While he is #$%##$%^^& with this #$@#&%#@ the $#%%$## goal orientated #$%@#$%%^ WMU coaches have dreamed up three secret plays to sneak attack us with. %$#@#$%$##. #$@#$^$#$#@@!!! %$#@#$%##@#$%!!
Please tell me this is sarcasm.
What? No maize jerseys?!
he's considering NIGHT GAMES!!!!1`!
(Or not, thankfully for me, but probably to the chagrin of some.)
Specifically, Nickelback over the loud speakers?
C'mon.
The place gets loud when the team warrants it. 2008, other than Wisconsin, didn't warrant it. Ripping on the "Old people" is weak.
The "old people" are every bit as important as the young people in that stadium. I don't begrudge them the right to watch the game however they see fit, and I guarantee that they'll cheer when Coach Rod puts 60 up on the scoreboard this year.
um, toledo anyone? the crowd was dead silent the whole game!
I presume you watched the game. What occurred in that game that warranted cheering, other than the clock striking zero so the fans could go home?
You would have preferred we booed?
Well, let's see.
We could pipe in a loud, tacky roar like they do at Penn State.
We could replace all the clarinets in the band with bugles like MSU and OSU.
We could have the scoreboard flash "Cheer loud now" like everyone else does.
If it was easy to do it well, it would have been done.
Most of the problem is a function of the stadium design. The night games I've been to haven't been any louder than the day games. It's the close games (Wisconsin last year) that raise the volume appreciably.
...finding a way to efficiently mic the band so that the sections behind them (formerly across from the students, now the students and others up the west side of the stadium) can hear them properly?
If they had a few quick bits that they played prior to important plays, and they found a way to make it sound alright acoustically, it could suffice in place of things like the random AC/DC that OSU pumps in on 3rd downs, etc."
If people were trained right with some other cue, it could become second nature after a season or two?
Everyone would mock the band incessantly if they "had to be amplified to be heard." Your idea might work if it was just for the fanfare band, though. Interesting thought.
it's amplified to be louder IMO. I don't care if someone mocks them, I'd rather that than being mocked for not being heard enough
I've always liked the idea of night games. I think lighting for parking may be an issue but lets not kid ourselves this is Ann Arbor...not Detroit. I would feel much safer leaving a UofM game in complete darkness then leaving a Tigers game in broad daylight.
the new construction will purportedly keep more noise in. that will make it a little rowdier and more intimidating. i don't care what they do, i just want other teams to hate playing in the big house b/c it is such a homefield advantage.
its not the stadium! its the fans having their mouthes WHICH ARE CLOSED! obviously it will be louder since more sound can bounce back, but its not going to be a home field advantage unless we get more participation.
obviously it will be louder since more sound can bounce back from the people who always yell, but its not going to be a home field advantage unless we get more participation.
THANK YOU!!!!
has nothing to do with crowd noise. It has everything to do with talent, hard work and preparation of the players.
Your call for loudness cuts both ways......I've read here a lot that the defense is being incredibly vocal and working together to figure out problems.
So, say it's 3rd down late in a OSU game and we're up, and Obi can't make a key adjustment to Stevie Brown or Donovan Warren because they can't hear him. The adjustment doesn't get made, and OSU scores a game-winning TD. I guarantee you you will NOT be on this site admitting that your "call" for more noise may have led to a loss because the team couldn't communicate due to excessive crowd noise.
I'm not trying to be Debbie Downer here. I go to about 10 college football games a year, and the determinative factor as to who wins or loses usually has little to do with crowd noise and everything to do with talent, schemes, preparation and execution. I don't think there's much wrong with the level of crowd noise.
home field advantage is a myth?
and I don't think my original opinion was so awful so as to warrant negative points. I'm entitled to the opinion - that's not what the point system is for.
My point is: Michigan has won 870 games in its history. I doubt crowd noise was ever discussed as a motivating factor by any fans of Michigan before, say, 1980. I'm positive the Point a Minute teams of the 1900s didn't rely on crowd noise to win.
They relied on:
Talent, execution, preparation, and teamwork.
The "home field advantage" doesn't require tens of thousands of drunkards screaming all game long. There is something to the Michigan "mystique" which makes it funny to me that a lot of the stadium doesn't scream all game. Furthermore, once Michigan gets further along in the Rich Rod project, I presume there are going to be games where Michigan wins by 50, and people making ridiculous amounts of noise in the fourth quarter will seem rather pointless.
And to that end, I saw Florida play LSU last year - there were tens of thousands of "old folks" at that game who didn't beg for rawk music at the game.
Though it was a night game.....
870 wins is nice and all but you do realize football is played a little differently today than it was in 1890 or 1920. It's evolving and yes crowd noise is a part of it. You think an opposing teams QB cant get rattled when it's the 4th quarter and the crowd is making noise. Of course it's not just one thing, its a combination of the stadium design, crowd noise, Michigan's defensive skill, the other teams ability to not be rattled, etc.
However like I said earlier, I think that creating an environment thats more "hostile" to the other team not makes it more difficult for the other team, it probably would make our experience more enjoyable as well. I think an added bonus again is being able to bring incoming recruits in and telling them to "imagine 110,000 screaming fans just waiting to see you make that game winning play." I'm sure it's a better recruiting tool than just 110,000 fans sitting there, thinking to themselves quietly I hope he makes that play.
when they need to get loud. I tend to find the Michigan fan isn't a dolt who doesn't understand that making noise when you're down 37 really doesn't do much.
But at the games I've been to, when the stadium needs to support the team, it does. Michigan fans know their football -read this blog and these boards. You know football - I think I know a little about football.
North Carolina has this same perceived "quietness" about their basketball team and arena. The "wine and cheese" crowd is what I think Vitale has called it. I don't think the recruits have been turned off from going to Chapel Hill over it. What has brought the recruits to Chapel Hill is the excellence of Roy Williams.
That's what will bring the recruits in for Michigan too. The more I read all the "complaints" about Michigan football - no night games, not enough noise at the stadium, too many kids leaving, too many 3 star recruits, Rich Rod doesn't get the school, the AD sucks - all these complaints will go away through one thing: Michigan winning.
all these complaints will go away through one thing: Michigan winning.
I agree completely.
There seems to be a lot of night game, rawk music fans that have shown up on the board recently, have you guys only been fans for a couple years? It seems like you're used to losing seasons and lloyd-ball. Believe me, the stadium can get MUCH louder all on it's own.
I'm all for crowd noise, but let the band set the tone for the audio experience in the stadium, it's fundamentally their job. I have to think some mics, some speakers, and some audio engineers will figure this out eventually.
I know RR is trying to embrace and modernize the whole program, but I think there should be some parameters.
toledo? app state?
cmon, the coach of your teamis asking you to make some noise. can't you just do it without arguing that it doesn't work when its been proven that it does?
I also know when cheering is and is not appropriate. Many fans at Michigan Stadium understand the importance of cheering when the situation warrants it.
I'm not sure what you want. The students on this board regularly state that they cheer all game long. A majority of the fans cheer.
But what was there to cheer against Toledo? If you got your Creed/Staind-filled wish and got piped-in music in a KNIGHTGAME, you would have watched a miserable loss in the dark with a soundtrack of shitty music. Fans still wouldn't have cheered in that craptacular game.
fans are supposed to constantly YELL when michigan is on defense. they are supposed to CHEER when theres a good play on offense.
they are supposed to CHEER when theres a good play on offense.
You watched the Toledo game, right?
Winning will make it louder. Also, bring back the marshmallows.
Oh God, the memories are flooding back!
and toilet paper! no i'm not talkin about terelle pryor, the toilet paper everyone used to throw. i'm not that old, but i have seen videos.
Have you ever been to a game at Camp Randall? Wisconsin has a reputation for being a difficult venue for a reason: the fans are rabid. They consistently make more noise than Michigan fans, save rare exceptions like Penn State 2005 or Wisconsin 2008.
How do you explain that? Wisconsin hasn't been to the Rose Bowl since the 1999-2000 season and has not won a Big Ten Title this decade. Yet the fans there are much louder, and their team is 20-2 at home over the past 3 years.
Based on this, I would say that crowd involvement makes a big difference.
the quality of the teams they schedule at home.
They might have a poor OOC schedule, but they still play Big Ten teams there.
You do realize that Michigan has lost their last two at Wisconsin, right?
home record isn't the primary factor in determining how rowdy a crowd is or it's effect on the game. see: USC, Texas.