Report: Ben McDaniels is WR Coach

Submitted by Caesar on December 25th, 2018 at 4:01 AM

I hope you folks are enjoying yourselves out there. For those moments of heated, completely unnecessary political discussions around the dinner table, I offer this MLive link saying that McDaniels will get the nod as Michigan's next WR coach after Jim McElwain departed for CMU. 

I'm not sure where I heard it, but I remember from somewhere that he played a role in snagging Cornelius Johnson (247 page), so that's a positive. It also seems that he beat out Roy Roundtree for the job, though I'm honestly unfamiliar with the internal structure and workings of Michigan's staff.

Ger Sauden

December 25th, 2018 at 6:21 AM ^

He's Josh McDaniels brother. I'm trying to look up his history, how he's done. Can't really tell. He's been to a lot of different teams. He has had jobs in the NFL. Nothing in particular is standing out about what he has done, except, at Rutgers the offense actually took a significant drop when he went from WR coach to OC/QB coach.

I thought there would be another splash hiring like hiring Jim McElwain, and Ed Warinner. Who knows, maybe he will do a great job.

Indy Pete - Go Blue

December 25th, 2018 at 6:30 AM ^

Extensive experience, excellent blood lines, embraced by players and coaches (including The mineral king), successful recruiter, experience in the nfl - I totally see why you are not impressed with this hire. /s

This looks like another homerun by Harbaugh. They truly are building something great in Ann Arbor. And they are doing it honestly!  Beating osu for the 59th time is going to be incredibly gratifying. 

outsidethebox

December 25th, 2018 at 8:20 AM ^

Come on man...what was McElwain supposed to do??? He was hired very late as a "stop-gap" and that is what he was.

Otherwise, Sam W. has a great piece on the 2019 OL recruits this morning-on Michigan Insider. And this is why I have held all along that this unit is going to be pivotal in the continued ascent of Michigan football. The floor of his unit is very high and the ceiling is elite. And that the DL of this class is similarly and  powerfully built from the inside out...the future of this program is scintillating. Arguably, Michigan has the best RB in this class, a player in Daxton Hill who may, in a year or two, be considered the best player in the entire 2019 class, a couple incredibly exciting and talented "in space" players and a brilliant QB has "IT" coming out his ears. Then, to top it off, this class is filled out with a bunch of recruits who are anything but "filler" recruits-including the POWs. Folks should be really excited about this group!!!

JonnyHintz

December 25th, 2018 at 8:11 AM ^

You really don’t need a big name hire to be WRs coach... what you want is a young, up and coming coach with an excellent knack for recruiting. While McElwain was fine in his duties as a WR coach (even though rumors were that a Roundtree actually did the majority of the coaching there) McElwain was NOT a good recruiter. 

The argument can easily be made that McDaniels is a better hire at WR coach than McElwain. 

bronxblue

December 25th, 2018 at 1:08 PM ^

What you need at WR coach is someone who knows what he's doing.  Zach Smith was apparently a great recruiter and a terrible WR coach, and OSU's receivers were noticeably better once he was gone.  So the claim of "you just need a guy who can recruit" at certain positions leads you to a collection of under-performing players.  

The distaste for McElwain around here astounds me.  Yes, he seems like a bit of a weird guy and I wouldn't want him as my HC.  But good lord, people just saw a noticeable improvement in WR performance this year (as part of a larger improvement on the offensive end) and at least a small part of that is probably due to McElwain being a good coach at this spot.  I'm sure McDaniels will also be good, but that doesn't mean the guy he's replacing was bad.

Ger Sauden

December 25th, 2018 at 3:12 PM ^

I have serious reservation that someone better than, or as good as, Jim McElwain could be found. Look how many times receivers were nicely open, and sometimes alone in coverage. And look at the way receivers downfield were always looking for someone to block when the ball was coming their way. This was the best year for these things I can remember. 

 

JonnyHintz

December 25th, 2018 at 8:04 PM ^

This would imply that you’re under the assumption that the WR play was solely from McElwain. Which again, ignores the jump of going from a first year college player to a second year college player, and Roy Roundtree’s impact as a GA. Which if rumors are true, he was responsible for most of the practice coaching anyway. 

JonnyHintz

December 25th, 2018 at 8:02 PM ^

And you’re obviously getting a guy who knows how to coach WRs in McDaniels or Roundtree. You don’t need a big name guy to find someone who does that. Which was my point. 

And you’re attributing the WR play to McElwain, but that ignores the fact that WRs generally make the biggest jump from freshman to sophomore year anyway, and then of course there’s the rumors that Roundtree was doing the majority of the coaching on the field anyway. I think the WRs were going to have a significant jump this season regardless of who it was coaching them.

I don’t know where you got that McElwain was bad. I didn’t say that. I simply dispelled the notion that you need to make a “splash” hire at that spot. It is generally reserved for good recruiters and young up and coming coaches. Neither of which describes McElwain. That doesn’t mean he’s not a good coach, it just means he’s not typical of a WR coaching job. 

 

 

JonnyHintz

December 25th, 2018 at 8:06 PM ^

Also, don’t quote someone if you’re going to say something they never said. At no point did I say “you just need a guy who can recruit.” I said you typically want an up and coming coach with a knack for recruiting. Where does that say just a guy who can recruit? The “up and coming” aspect would imply a high potential coach at the very least.  

But hey, thanks for putting words in my mouth and misinterpretating what I said. 

JonnyHintz

December 25th, 2018 at 8:11 AM ^

You really don’t need a big name hire to be WRs coach... what you want is a young, up and coming coach with an excellent knack for recruiting. While McElwain was fine in his duties as a WR coach (even though rumors were that a Roundtree actually did the majority of the coaching there) McElwain was NOT a good recruiter. 

The argument can easily be made that McDaniels is a better hire at WR coach than McElwain. 

mgobobb

December 25th, 2018 at 7:08 AM ^

His father, Thom, was coach at my high school when Maurice Clarret and Mario Manningham went there.  Thom thought very highly of Jim Tressel and, strictly on hearsay, didn’t seem to care much for UM.  But, that’s the normal inclination of Ohio people.

Ben comes from great bloodlines as Thom was a heck of a coach and disciplinarian.  Should be a great fit and I’m sure he has many Ohio contacts.

 

Fishbulb

December 25th, 2018 at 7:34 AM ^

Harbaugh hires good coaches and clearly has enough on McDaniels to make this call. Roundtree is going to have to cut his teeth at a smaller school. I’m sure he’ll make a fine coach.

JonnyHintz

December 25th, 2018 at 8:14 AM ^

That was a glaring absence from Carr, RR, and Hoke. It seemed rare that their assistants advanced in the coaching world. Harbaugh has has multiple position coaches move on to higher positions elsewhere and a few guys move on to head coaching jobs as well. Really speaks to the quality of coaching these guys receive on Harbaugh’s staff

JonnyHintz

December 25th, 2018 at 8:09 PM ^

Three actually, but when he said “smaller schools” I don’t think he was referring to CSU-Pueblo, Limestone College, or Indiana State. I think he was more referring to taking a job at a school like Central or possibly a small P5 job like Syracuse or BC before being considered for a job at a place like Michigan. 

Swazi

December 25th, 2018 at 4:02 PM ^

Yes he made visits to Cornelius and Giles Jackson after Mac left.

 

Figured he’d get the nod unless another program offered him a bigger role.