Ravens Fire DC

Submitted by GVSUGoBlue on January 21st, 2022 at 6:32 PM

ESPN just reported that the Ravens have fired their DC. Does this mean McDonald gets a hard look at returning to Baltimore?

I can't see him leaving Michigan yet but I don't know how close John Harbaugh is with him.

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/33118299/baltimore-ravens-fire-defensive-coordinator-don-martindale-source-says

RadOWon

January 21st, 2022 at 7:53 PM ^

I read these comments and I think to myself, who is really this dumb? It's mind boggling to me.

"Johns obligation is to himself" PROFOUND.

"John has done more than enough to help his brother" WOW

"You bet they've already talked about it" EARTH SHATTERING.

I cant even comprehend this thought process.

JonnyHintz

January 21st, 2022 at 8:19 PM ^

Kinda shows you’re the problem bud.
 

Those comments are all in response to “why would John do this to Jim?” All point to, John doesn’t owe Jim anything and is going to do what’s best for his team. 
 

Sorry answering a question offends your sensibilities so much. But that really seems like a “you” problem.

Toasted Yosties

January 21st, 2022 at 8:31 PM ^

I, too, am disappointed in the lack of profound commentary on this sports message board. Come on, my fellow philosopher kings, let’s dig deep and find some sort of philosophical essence in this article about *checks notes* the firing of a defensive coordinator.

Talk to you all later, I’m going to go suss out the meaning of life by watching Night Court reruns.

Qmatic

January 21st, 2022 at 9:08 PM ^

Not going to rag on you. You have had a lot of good posts in your short time here. 

My post was more to rebut the fact that John would not take the best DC candidate (if he believed Mac was that, which he most likely doesn’t think he is), he would pass him over because he coaches with his brother. He is still an NFL coach who missed the playoffs and each passing year is further from his Super Bowl win without a Conf Champ appearance and 4 playoff-less seasons since then.

buddha

January 21st, 2022 at 6:46 PM ^

I find the concept of "experience" pretty interesting in the NFL right now. Granted, there's a bunch of coaches and coordinators with 20+ / 30+ years of "experience" who are both doing well or looking for a job now. It's hard to argue with the "experience" of Bill Belichick or potentially some other well establish coaches (Sean Payton, Pete Carroll, etc...). But - across the league - there are some amazing young coaches and coordinators. I actually read this past week that three head coaches in the playoffs (Matt LaFleur, Kyle Shannahan, and Sean McVeigh) are all younger than Tom Brady! Moreover, some of their staffs as well as the coordinators across the league are the same age as the players. 

Long story short, I think the NFL has shown they'll hire the best person for the job, agnostic of whether he or she have the most years or biggest resume under their proverbial belts. (read: "best" may be in the eye of the beholder and hirer...not necessarily based on total performance)

 

outsidethebox

January 21st, 2022 at 8:53 PM ^

Yesiree. "Now we are cooking with gas"...as my Amish friends and relatives like to say. When I  started doing the hiring for our family business one of the early lessons I learned was "Beware of experience". Hire people with skill and initiative-who are internally motivated.

Blue Vet

January 21st, 2022 at 6:37 PM ^

Isn't it obvious? The baffling mystery of Jim Harbaugh not informing the MGoBlogosphere his plans directly is solved.

John is going to hire Jim to be his new DC.

George Patton

January 21st, 2022 at 6:50 PM ^

If I understand correctly, MacDonald learned under the guy they fired and presumably uses the same basic approach the defense.  Without knowing anything about what went wrong with the Ravens this year, seems unlikely that the perfect replacement is his less experienced protegee, MacDonald.  Could be wrong if the problem was something isolated and discrete like work ethic or being a jerk to the players, but I'm guessing that wasn't it.

JonnyHintz

January 21st, 2022 at 7:59 PM ^

Someone just suggested the same thing on Twitter and this was my exact response.
 

Michigan would have simply waited the extra week to bring Elston in or at least waited to make the announcement. Or possibly announced him with a co-DC title of some sort so the transition would have made sense. 
 

I don’t see how you hire a guy and announce him as the DL coach if you know he’s going to be your DC in a week. 

dickdastardly

January 21st, 2022 at 7:56 PM ^

Y'all got it wrong. John is going to hire Jim to be the DC so that MacDonald can become the new J. Ira and Nicki Harris Family Head Coach of  THE University of Michigan Wolverines. 

 

tybert

January 21st, 2022 at 8:08 PM ^

There are more qualified NFL guys who have been either former DCs or long-time D coaches waiting for the move upward. 

John would be putting a lot on the line for a guy with one year as a College DC. 

Plus, Wink moving on probably had a lot more to do with a "need for a change" (someone has to take the fall for a 6 game losing streak to end the year). I watched some of their games this year - it was the injury to Jackson more than anything else that cost the Ravens. The D wasn't great this year by any means but not the reason they lost 9 games. 

The CBS article on Ravens mentions some current NFL coaches. I feel Mike is here for a few more years - and BESIDES what does Mike want to be in 3-5 years. A NFL DC, CFB Power 5 HC, etc.? 

 

 

Nobody Likes a…

January 21st, 2022 at 9:34 PM ^

There is a joke about two old Irishmen sitting on the end of a pier. One turns to the other and says "Seamus thats the most beautiful sunset I've ever seen." Seamus replies "boy are we going to pay for this".

 

This is how I have chosen to believe the arc of my life will play out, I have yet to be disappointed