Pryor's PCL

Submitted by maizenblue92 on
I just saw on ESPN that Pryor has a partial tear of his PCL put is still expected to play against Oregon. Thoughts?
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mattbern

December 28th, 2009 at 5:51 PM ^

I didn't think Ohio State had much of a chance against a very good Oregon team before I heard this. Now I am excited to see how much they will lose by.

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December 28th, 2009 at 6:02 PM ^

I sense trouble, here, my Wolverine brethren, but I refuse to root for the Oregon Ducks beat a Big Ten team. It is not possible for me to imagine a bowl game in which I'd like to see The Ohio State University Buckeyes lose to an opponent from another conference. I understand "sentiment." I understand "Pryor resentment." But if we are just talking about outcomes, I want the Bucks to win, by about three touchdowns. Eff the Pac 10. Ditto outcomes for every other Big Ten bowl team. Eff the SEC. Eff 'em all. Well, no, actually, that's not true. In the case of the Spartans, I want to see them win 79-76 in a 5 OT game versus Texas Tech, just for the hell of it.

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Lordfoul

December 28th, 2009 at 7:18 PM ^

Just say No to the Buckeyes. If the Big 10 is a family, O$U is Fredo. That team always has and always will be dead to me. I celebrated each nosedive they took in the MNC. Fuck the Buckeyes. Go Ducks.

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mgowin

December 28th, 2009 at 10:34 PM ^

I think it was someone on this board that said that his grandfather, uncle, etc. stated "if Ohio State played Nazi Germany, I'd root for Nazi Germany." This is exactly how if feel. B10 or not, eff tOSU, whenever or wherever they take the field.

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December 29th, 2009 at 12:00 PM ^

When Rich Rodriguez was taking all manner of national hate-speech for the Free Press' crappy reporting in August, Jim Tressel of OSU and Tm Brewster of Minnesota were two of the first guys to step up and essentially say, "I don't see this story at all; we understand countable hours, but our kids, all want to do a lot more than the NCAA countable limits." Tressel said that they sometimes had to lock the weight room. These opposing coaches were not impressed with the story, and said so. Tressel and the Buckeyes (the Borens notably excepted) are among the least-hatable entities in the Conference. Mind you, I want very, very, very badly for our guys to beat the Buckeyes, starting next year in Columbus, and on a regular basis. But when I think of the really dislikable and disreputable teams in the Conference, I think of things like the Mark Dantonio comments and Danny Hope's malignant postgame stunt, and even then I don't wish for those Big Ten teams to go down to non-conference opponents. [By the way, with regard to Tressel and the Detroit Free Press; wouldn't you just love to have a chance to ask Tressel, "Coach, if a player of yours -- we cannot possibly guess who -- had given information to a Free Press writer about countable hours at Michigan, would that player have any reason to "fear" any sort of "retaliation" from you or your coaches, or NFL scouts, or anybody else that you can possibly imagine?" Because remember, "retaliation" is the flimsy basis on which the Free Press awarded anonymity to sources who might indeed have real, documentable grudges against the Michigan program. For my part, I have no hatred whatsoever toward Jim Tressel. To the contrary, I think it is time to get his help in building the case against the Free Press.]

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mgowin

December 29th, 2009 at 6:28 PM ^

To me its not about dirty or clean programs or anything else. I want to see Michigan excel and I want to see tOSU fail. It think that is the point of having a bitter rival. If were were simply a rival member of the conference, say Penn State, that I would agree with you completely. Its like in 68 when Woody had a 36 point lead and the game in hand, he went for a 2 point conversion against UM because he "couldn't go for three". Or the quote Woody made (don't remember the exact phrasing) about pushing his car out of the state of Michigan while on a recruiting visiting because he would rather push a car that contribute $1 to the state's economy. A bitter rivalry is irrational passion. I understand what your saying but I just could not bring myself to feel that way.

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Blue Bunny Friday

December 28th, 2009 at 6:26 PM ^

The treatment of them is controversial because it doesn't really have much effect on your ability to do normal things. It's primary function is that it "provides 95% of total restraining force to straight posterior translation of the tibia relative to femur." The secondary functions can be important, but judging by his comments it was probably the most common type of tear that would leave those functions intact. If it's isolated to the PCL, then I wouldn't expect it to change much for this game. It can potentially lead to some degenerative changes in the knee later in life. Most football players end up with those anyway. http://www.wheelessonline.com/ortho/posterior_cruciate_ligament

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jmblue

December 29th, 2009 at 2:08 PM ^

I know that the PCL's functions are not as critical to movement/stability as the ACL's, but I've also heard that it's worse to injure it than the ACL (if we're talking an injury that requires surgery), because its location toward the back of the knee makes it more difficult to repair (and can lead to more post-surgical complications). Is this true?

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BiSB

December 28th, 2009 at 6:49 PM ^

Sweatervest uses Pryor largely as a pocket passer (despite the fact that Pryor can run like a deer but can't throw for sh*t). So it probably won't make much a huge difference.

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Blue Ninja

December 28th, 2009 at 7:33 PM ^

So who is going to be their leading rusher if Pryor can't run effectively? They've already got 3 guys out due to academics and now Pryor may not be effective on the ground where he is actually dangerous but not blazing fast. I sense big trouble for the Buckeyes.

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Clarence Beeks

December 28th, 2009 at 7:40 PM ^

I think about their only hope is if they can sell out on the run and hope that Masoli has an off passing day (which he is very capable of doing). If Oregon's running game is able to do anything at all this game is going to be over in a hurry.

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scottbaez

December 28th, 2009 at 9:00 PM ^

This isn't a new injury and he'll be feeling better than he was at the end of the year. Pryor got hurt in the NMSU game, and while he seems to maybe have lost a step, he's fine and can play through some pain.

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