Predicting the West

Submitted by M Ascending on October 5th, 2022 at 8:08 AM

The B1G West appears to be a free-for-all this year, with 6 teams at 1-1 and only 
Wisconsin at 0-2.  Below, I have listed all the teams (alphabetically), along with their B1G results to date, as well as their crossover schedule.  Who do you think will ultimately prevail, and why?

TEAM                         RESULTS                            X-over Schedule

Illinois                        (L) @ Ind., (W) Wisc.           (L) @Ind., MSU, @Mich.

Iowa                          (W) @ Rut., (L) Mich.           (W) @Rut, (L) Mich., @OSU

Minnesota                 (W) @MSU, (L) Purdue        (W) @MSU, PSU, Rut.

Nebraska                  (L) NW, (W) Ind.                    (W) Ind., @Rut., @Mich.

Northwestern            (W) Neb., (L) @PSU             (L) @PSU, @Md., OSU

Purdue                      (L) PSU, (W) @Minn.            (L) PSU, @Md., @Ind.

Wisconsin                 (L) @OSU, (L) Ill.                  (L) @OSU, @MSU, Md.

I'm going out on a limb and picking Purdue.  Tight loss to PSU. Throttled Minnesota on the road. Reasonable crossover schedule remaining. Lost a heartbreaker on the road to a pretty good Syracuse team.  But, it's wide open.  Who do you like, and why?

                                   

BlueKoj

October 5th, 2022 at 9:43 AM ^

Preseason I had PU bc of O'Connell and their x-over schedule. Now that they gave up the PSU game and MD looks better than MSU, that pick is shakier. But I'm sticking with it. I think IL may well be the toughest team on that side. They may be ranked when we see them in Nov. EDIT: 6-3 with 3 teams (IL, PU, MN?) seems about right. Tie breakers decide.

SF Wolverine

October 5th, 2022 at 8:21 AM ^

Feels like a three-loss B10 schedule team, whoever that might be.  I'm inclined to pick Brett B and the Mighty Illini.  Seems like he's got things pointed in the right direction there, and they don't have any more tough crossovers than anyone else.  Purdue seems too flaky to go the distance.  Perhaps Minny if last week was a true outlier.

TdK71

October 5th, 2022 at 8:29 AM ^

If the Gophers get Ibrahim back I like them to win the west they have Penn State and Rutgers @Home. They'll be at least 2-1 vs the B1G East. they should be able to handle the rest of their west division foes.

St Joe Blues

October 5th, 2022 at 8:35 AM ^

I'd pick Minnesota if Ibrahim doesn't miss any more time. Their crossover has 2 winnable home games, which would make them 3-0. Everyone else should have at least one loss. Then they have to just take care of business in their division.

TESOE

October 5th, 2022 at 8:41 AM ^

Illinois is the best team. Minnesota has the best chance. Purdue is dangerous. Crossover doesn't mean loss. Some upsets are due. The West is weaker but not by as much as people think on any given Saturday. 

This week will say a lot. I'm not sure what.

I need to understand the tie breaks...it is going to be crazy. 

B1G needs ranked based championship or power based scheduling. The current system does not reward good teams.

Just win...Go Blue!

Amazinblu

October 5th, 2022 at 9:01 AM ^

The two big games between West Division foes last weekend were Purdue over Minnesota, and Illinois over Wisconsin.  In both games, turnovers by the losing team made a difference - and, perhaps not coincidentally - both home teams lost.

So, who is "out" - that seems pretty easy.  Nebraska, Northwestern, and Wisconsin.  Iowa's lack of offense will prevent them from winning divisional games on the road - or - in Columbus.

That leaves three - Purdue, Minnesota, and Illinois (in reverse alphabetical order).   It's going to come down to the last weekend of conference play - and, as noted, might require the tiebreak criteria to determine.

Which means - a three way race with the Illini, Gophers, and Boilermakers (again, in reverse alphabetical order).

I like Illinois.  Their win in Madison was very good, they seem to be the most balanced, and they have both Purdue and Minnesota at "home" in Champaign.

lhglrkwg

October 5th, 2022 at 10:17 AM ^

I agree on Illinois. They seem to be pretty balanced on both sides, and I just don't trust Minnesota or Purdue to be consistent enough to win it unless everyone just ends up at 5-4 and one wins on a tie-breaker. 

I could see Iowa winning it honestly. The offenses in the west are meh enough that I could see Iowa choking all of them out and winning a bunch of 17-10 type games. They'll lose to OSU, but I could see them going 6-0/5-1 against the rest and stumbling into Indy at 7-2/6-3 in the west which probably wins it this year

Newton Gimmick

October 5th, 2022 at 10:59 AM ^

The funny thing about this post -- I also tend to think Wisconsin is "out" but, looking at their schedule, I don't see any games where they would be clear underdogs.  Maybe Minnesota -- SP+ puts it at Minnesota minus-4 right now --  but they get them in Camp Randall at the end of the year, when things could look very different depending on how Leonhard does.

The only one who is definitely definitely out to me is Northwestern, who will be large dogs in all their remaining games.  (I say this in part to tempt fate, as a 5-4 in the Big 10, 5-7 overall Northwestern winning the west would be completely hilarious.)

ChuckieWoodson

October 5th, 2022 at 9:08 AM ^

Based on my calculations the winner of the East has a 99.8% chance of winning the BIG.  I'm hoping it's M.  At the moment, not sure how our LBs and DBs are going to hang with OSU's passing attack unless there's some dramatic improvement but... any given Saturday...

Markley Mojo

October 5th, 2022 at 10:43 AM ^

Two approaches:

1. Everybody throws; if all 3 are present, then rethrow until only 2 are thrown, and remove losers. This might get stuck for a while for large groups.

2. Everybody throws; select the largest 2 groups and remove the losers. If there's no clear "largest 2 groups" (like if it goes 3 rock, 2 scissors, 2 paper), then rethrow. Still a chance to get stuck but easier to get out of stalemate than approach #1.

TESOE

October 5th, 2022 at 10:02 AM ^

Too early, but the home games for Illinois (Purdue, Minn., Iowa) could be the deciding factor as well. I'm with you on advantage Gophers.

Michigan will be challenged not to look past Illinois as that may be a make or break game for them. Bielema will have all his Wisconsin fans rooting him on at this point. He basically fired Chryst out of sympathy.

jwk899

October 5th, 2022 at 9:53 AM ^

With all of the financial resources the B1G has, it's crazy this division continues to be complete garbage.  Are any of these teams even decent?  Calling them mediocre is being generous.  The East has 3, possibly even 4 (Maryland) teams that will be ranked when the first playoff rankings are revealed.  The West likely won't have 1 even close.

As for who wins the division, it's such a toss up.  Minnesota might have the best path.  They get PSU and Rutgers at home and they've already beaten MSU.  If Ibrahim gets healthy, they'll win 2 of their crossover games and an outside chance of upsetting PSU in Minneapolis.  

Amazinblu

October 5th, 2022 at 10:49 AM ^

jwk - I think the Minny at PSU game is the White Out that PSU has scheduled for this season - and, it will be a night game.   Though I like Minny - not sure how well they handle that environment.   It's by far the rowdiest Penn State gets.

TESOE

October 5th, 2022 at 11:09 AM ^

I did not realize it was Night White, hmm...but I don't think it matters.  PSU is over-rated and Minn. is under. Minnesota has already lost where they should have won. They are going to understand the need to execute.

One of the crossovers is going to go West's way.  Hoping it isn't against Michigan.

lhglrkwg

October 5th, 2022 at 10:21 AM ^

With all of the financial resources the B1G has, it's crazy this division continues to be complete garbage.

Well, that's because financial resources don't directly correlate to being able to recruit well unless we think TV contracts go right to some players NIL. The teams in the west exist in a fairly sparse recruiting area and none are really blue bloods except sort of Nebraska

Amazinblu

October 5th, 2022 at 10:02 AM ^

Ascending - thanks for posting this.  It made me think - what are the most interesting crossover games based on current records.   Here's my list.

Illinois at Michigan

Minnesota at Penn State

Purdue at Maryland

WolverineHistorian

October 5th, 2022 at 10:07 AM ^

Purdue is too sporadic for me to go with them.  If they’re not killing themselves with penalties (like in the Syracuse game) their lack of running game is going to keep them struggling

It will probably be like last year.  We won’t know until thanksgiving weekend who wins the division. 

lhglrkwg

October 5th, 2022 at 10:18 AM ^

I think people are too quick to write off Iowa. Their offense is junk but their defense is more than good enough to throttle every offense in the west. I could see Iowa winning most of their games and Minnesota, Purdue, and Illinois being just inconsistent enough for Iowa to win it

Amazinblu

October 5th, 2022 at 10:57 AM ^

Iowa's remaining schedule is:

At Illinois - October 8th.   I'll pick Illinois

At OSU - October 22nd.  I'll pick the Bucks

Host Northwestern - October 29th.  I'll pick the Hawkeyes to win at home.

At Purdue - November 5th.  This is a key game - probably a toss up.

Host Wisconsin - November 12th.  I'll pick Iowa.

At Minnesota - November 19th.  Again, a key game and toss up.

Host Nebraska - November 26th.  I'll pick Iowa in their regular season finale.

 

So - looking at the schedule, Iowa plays the three "consensus" contenders - Illinois, Purdue, and Minnesota - on the road.  I know that defense travels - but, Iowa will have to score to win any of those games.