Possible Walk On?

Submitted by wresler120 on
I wanted to revisit the Drake Johnson from Ann Arbor Pioneer subject now that the regular season for high school football is over. I know we talked about him prior to the season, and many people said no chance that Michigan is interested in him. Obviously Pioneer is across the street from Michigan Stadium, and it's not like we the coaches don't know of him. I know there is no way he receives a scholarship offer from Michigan, but it appears his only offer right now is Eastern Michigan. I have had a chance to see this kid play last year, and this year, and he is one hell of an athlete. Pioneer has done well this year (2 losses) and many of their wins can be placed squarely on Drake Johnson. He finished the season with close to 2,2020 and 30 touchdowns, which includes a game in which he had TD runs of 62, 52, and 46 yards. He is also a stellar track athlete. I feel Thomas Rawls will become a solid back, and there's still a chance Brionte Dunn could be on board come February. Both Dunn and Rawls are known as powerful runners, and they fit perfectly into the system Hoke is putting into place. Given our situation at running back ...I feel we are really missing that running back that can line up all over the field and can be a home run threat. What do you think the chances are that we can get Drake Johnson as a walk on? EDIT: Link to So. and Jr. year highlights: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LoNlxe8HgLc

wresler120

October 23rd, 2011 at 4:29 PM ^

I just think we have a solid athlete right across the street, and I'd hate to see him get away. Just don't know if he gets a preferred walk on offer from Michigan, or if we could see some bigger teams come into play once the playoffs are over, and possibly offer him a scholarship. It's not too often a player with his athletic ability comes through the Pioneer system.

kaykaybroke

October 23rd, 2011 at 4:23 PM ^

I don't think you can go to Pioneer without having solid interest in Michigan. If he were offerred a prefered walk-on position, you have to think he'd think about it compared to going to Eastern. 

He'd be a great addition to the class at no cost if he came, and we'd be adding a solid piece to our track team as well. Sure hope the coaches atleast give him the chance.

Tater

October 24th, 2011 at 7:29 AM ^

It depends upon how rich or how poor his parents are.  If his parents aren't either rich enough to pay or poor enough for him to get close to a free ride, he would really be better off taking the scholly at EMU.  

If he plays in the MAC, and it's only seven miles down the road, it's not like he is really "getting away."  

go16blue

October 23rd, 2011 at 4:44 PM ^

I'm in his grade at Pioneer (he goes to a different school, but plays for Pioneer), and you're right he's a beast. Given his speed (sub 4.4) and success on the field it strikes me as odd that he has so little attention. Maybe he's too short? I don't know.

Last year he went on a visit, so there was at least some interest then, but I'm not sure what the new coaching staff thinks about him. Definitely a walk-on at best given his offers, and I think its a stretch to see him contributing at all if he gets on the team, but I'd say theres a good shot he ends up as a walk-on. 

Mr. Yost

October 23rd, 2011 at 8:06 PM ^

...he was offered to Michigan on a TRACK scholarship. 5 fakes out of 5 is way off. He's definitely a 4.4-4.5 guy.

 

Thing is, if we walks on to Michigan's football team, he has to get a football scholarship. You can walk-on to track w/ a football scholarship, but not the other way around.

 

If he really wants to come to Michigan. I don't think the coaches would have any problem with him taking the track scholarship, running track for a year and then trying out to earn a scholarshhip on the football team in 2013.

justingoblue

October 23rd, 2011 at 8:28 PM ^

I wish the NCAA had some kind of process to review these types of cases. Obviously we don't want a sport used as an extra ten scholarships for football, but if you're a legitimate track star and you compete in x amounts of meets for the university, you should be allowed to compete in football the following season without messing up their scholarship numbers. It seems shitty that this kid might have to turn down a scholarship for the sake of being a two sport athlete.

Gobluegr

October 23rd, 2011 at 4:53 PM ^

I looked up his track numbers and he is one of the fasted hurdlers in the country. I found one of his times was 13.80 seconds. For perspective the eighth place runner in the 2008 Olympic finals ran a 13.69. Allen Trieu said that he is really talented but teams just don't know where to play him. He scored 6! touchdowns agianst Cass Tech last year. And he has a GPA of 3, so he isn't an academic problem

LSAClassOf2000

October 23rd, 2011 at 5:15 PM ^

He could walk THERE.

He would be a decent addition if he can gather up the funds to go to Michigan and if he were to make the team at all. 

Per Rivals, Army, Toledo and Syracuse also have medium interest. I would imagine, however, that being from Ann Arbor, there is probably one school that looms larger than the rest in a very physical sense. 

wresler120

October 23rd, 2011 at 5:24 PM ^

He has not accepted a Michigan scholarship for track. He currently holds a Michigan track offer, but he wants to play football in college. If he accepts the track offer, then he would not be able to play football, unless the football team is willing to take the hit on the scholarship. The higher revenue generating sport has to absorb the scholarship.

fuzzy247

October 23rd, 2011 at 6:02 PM ^

I was just going to ask about this. I know it has been discussed before but I couldn't remember how the scholarships were counted. Could he accept a track scholarship and work out with the football team for a year or two but not play in games? Like a practice squad player? Then perhaps they would offer him a football scholarship if one became available. Not that he'd want to take a chance like that but have similar things ever happened?

turbo cool

October 23rd, 2011 at 6:11 PM ^

It shouldn't be an issue of whether or not the football squad will have to count him as a scholarship athlete. If he's on scholarship for track, then the track team is where is scholarship is counted.

I had a friend who ran track at Michigan and could've played for the football squad. The football-track relationship really depends on which your team scholarship. For instance, as a football player with track speed, i.e. Denard, Troy, etc., there is very, very little risk to running track. It occurs in the off-season and it will help to stay in football shape. However, as a member of track, there is high risk to playing football. The obvious risk is injury, and to a lesser extent, less focus on actual track. Keep in mind, that the football season will come before track so any injury/less training time would directly impact your ability at track. Anyway, that's how my friend put it.

wresler120

October 23rd, 2011 at 6:35 PM ^

If you are on a track scholarship and you play football ... then your scholarship counts against football ... This is how it is \stated in the Division 1 sports manual on page 222 under Section 15.5.10 under multiple sport participants .. 15.5.10 Multi-Sport Participants. 15.5.10.1 Football. [FBS/FCS] In football, a counter who was recruited (per Bylaw 15.02.8) and/or offered financial aid to participate in football and who participates (practices or competes) in football and one or more sports (including basketball) shall be counted in football. A counter who was not recruited (per Bylaw 15.02.8) and/or offered financial aid to participate in football and who competes in football and one or more sports (including basketball) shall be counted in football. (Revised: 1/10/95 effective 8/1/95, 1/9/96 effective 8/1/96, 1/15/11 effective 8/1/11) 15.5.10.1.1 http://grfx.cstv.com/photos/schools/aub/genrel/auto_pdf/2011-12/misc_no…

manchild56

October 23rd, 2011 at 5:40 PM ^

i would be worried he may take it as an insult he lives 2 seconds from the stadium and didnt get an offer. i mean a walk on possibility is awesome dont get me wrong but he may be like i will go to a smaller school who really wants me to prove i am worth a scholly. i know the coaches arent disrespecting him but he may feel slighted is all.

Rather be on BA

October 23rd, 2011 at 5:44 PM ^

I really do not understand the lack of interest in Johnson, not just from Michigan but in general. Johnson is arguably the most explosive offensive player in the entire state, and at 6'2" and nearly 200 lbs he is not tiny.

Against Huron he ran for 250 yards IN THE FIRST HALF.  I counted 10 touchdown runs of over 50 yards on the year (from Pioneer's website).  In one game he had td runs of 85, 75, 63, 37 yards. He has 2,200 rushing yards and 30 tds.  Plus every opponent knows he will be Pioneer's entire offense and prepares for that (last week Pioneer only threw the ball 4 times...).  He has world class speed (literally), and is able to transfer that onto the football field unlike many track stars.

I would be ecstatic if Michigan offered him a scholly, not just a preferred walk on spot.  Obviously the coaches know more about recruiting than me, and obviously they have looked at this kid and chosen not to offer him a scholarship, I just do not understand it at all.

Rather be on BA

October 23rd, 2011 at 6:09 PM ^

Quote from gobluegr above us in the thread:

"I looked up his track numbers and he is one of the fasted hurdlers in the country. I found one of his times was 13.80 seconds. For perspective the eighth place runner in the 2008 Olympic finals ran a 13.69.

Allen Trieu said that he is really talented but teams just don't know where to play him.

He scored 6! touchdowns agianst Cass Tech last year.

And he has a GPA of 3, so he isn't an academic problem"

 

http://mi.milesplit.com/athletes/771521-drake-johnson

That link has all of his times.  I saw a 13.73 in there too in the 110H.  Faster than the 13.8 mentioned above.

Maceo Baston All Day

October 23rd, 2011 at 7:48 PM ^

For selfish reasons I'd like to see Drake play college football next year -- anywhere. In person he is incredible. He was the best athlete on the field last year against a stacked Cass Tech squad.

The only way he ends up wearing the wings at Meeechigan is on scholarship, the kid already has football offers from other B10 schools. Have heard that his heart (and protecting his noggin) may be in track. Gluck to the kid no mater what HE chooses, special talent for the A2 area no doubt.

BondQuest

October 23rd, 2011 at 7:30 PM ^

From Scout;

http://michigan.scout.com/a.z?s=162&p=8&c=1&nid=5161853

55m hurdles - 7.76, set AAU Indoor National Record.

60m hurdles - 8.09, ranked in top ten in the country, indoor 2010

110m hurdles - 14.16, fastest freshman time run in the country.

Placed 3rd at MHSAA Outdoor State Championships. Highest place for freshman hurdler in Michigan ever

Setting an AAU Indoor National Record is quite an accomplishment.

 

Space Coyote

October 23rd, 2011 at 7:48 PM ^

As such, I'm a bit surprised he hasn't gotten more MAC offers.  I think he would make a good MAC back.  I wouldn't mind a preferred walk on spot being extended by Michigan, but he probably doesn't warrent a football scholarship at this point.