Posey must sit 5 more games
October 8th, 2011 at 10:14 AM ^
not the same situation. stonum was suspended for the season by the team not 10 games by the ncaa.
October 8th, 2011 at 10:14 AM ^
not the same situation. stonum was suspended for the season by the team not 10 games by the ncaa.
October 7th, 2011 at 8:56 PM ^
Why doesn't the NCAA just make him permanently ineligible?
October 7th, 2011 at 9:00 PM ^
I mean, they almost did.
October 7th, 2011 at 9:00 PM ^
Wouldn't they just redshirt him?
October 7th, 2011 at 9:04 PM ^
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October 7th, 2011 at 9:26 PM ^
James is Posey's lawyer. By some strange coincidence, he was also Pryor's.
October 7th, 2011 at 9:21 PM ^
A cynical part of me wonders if some pay-for-play cash payments surfaced somehow and they tried to cover it up after the fact by inventing an employment relationship.
It would explain why the NCAA might "ignore documentation showing Posey worked proper hours." And if this were the tip of an iceberg, it might explain behavior (both Posey's and the school's) that seems a bit odd over just a few hundred dollars.
October 7th, 2011 at 9:31 PM ^
Honestly, how stupid are these kids? The university is trying to say they couldn't have known how much they were getting paid per hour. Really? Are they incapable of division? (Answer: yes probably, but that's another discussion.) They're saying they couldn't have known because they weren't getting anything besides a check... don't the kids know that when you have a job you're supposed to get some documentation beyond a personal check? I'm not a tin-foil-hat type person, but everything stinks here.
October 7th, 2011 at 10:08 PM ^
Indeed. Posey got paid $1050 for 'alleged work' of 21.5 hours. He really had no idea that that was fishy? Also, what about paying taxes? It doesn't explicity state it anywhere, but it kind of sounds like they didn't pay taxes on this income either.
Lastly, since it was a union shop, I doubt the jobs they allegedly had were available to the general public. You could easily argue that they only got these jobs in the first place because they were student-atheletes. I think that would be a violation as well.
I call shenanigans.
October 8th, 2011 at 2:10 AM ^
$45 an hour? That's very high for someone with no experience at anything.
October 7th, 2011 at 9:19 PM ^
That is ridiculous. They are penalizing the kids future now. Gene Smith needs to go now. He is trying to plug the hole in the Titanic, it's not working. I actually feel bad for Posey who decided to stay because he thought he'd at least get to play in Big Ten play and show scouts what he could do. If they knew about this before, they should have a) educated Posey on the consequences or b) reported it immediately so he could have went into the supplemental draft. I have a hard time believing that he would sacrifice his entire future for a few hundred bucks. Hopefully they can redshirt him. But Gene Smith and the Gordon Gee (what a stupid name) need to be fired by whoever has the authority. I've seen a coach run a program into the ground, but never an athletic director. Can't say I'm not enjoying it a little bit.
October 7th, 2011 at 10:32 PM ^
True, but he did this after his other violation. He was clearly being stupid.
October 7th, 2011 at 9:20 PM ^
Well according to my one friend, who is a OSU fan, "well, if Tressel and OSU get the hammer, everyone in college football should get the hammer." Since OSU has finally been caught after decades of speculation and rumblings of action such as these, its curious that all of a sudden OSU is an innocent pawn in a massive NCAA conspiracy. Of course, when I site that our program has been pretty clean for 50 years plus, his only retort is Ed Martin and "Stretch-gate 2009" as to why we are just as guilty.
Its pretty interesting that usually finger pointing is a losers game, a loser mentality. They have competited at such a high level for such a long time (real or bought), that their base and leadership acting like victims and pawns is quite revealing. Maybe we need to remember how much of a complex exists, and that we, Meeechigan, have a lot of upper hand competively and academically with people and institutions such as these.
Another question: Is this the reason Cooper failed in/on OSU terms? He chose to be clean, rather than buy success like Tressel.
October 7th, 2011 at 9:40 PM ^
...because the primary reason Bruce was fired was because he was perceived as uncooperative by the boosters. Cooper was expected to run a looser ship.
If you ask me, though, the big shift was from Geiger to Smith.
October 7th, 2011 at 10:15 PM ^
Good point, I had forgotten about that fact. It is amazing that Bruce was competitive with us, then Cooper's looser ship was 2-10-1!! Not lose enough, eh!
October 7th, 2011 at 9:43 PM ^
Sports by Brooks has a pic of the guy who overpaid these current players patting Cooper on the head after one of the two times he beat Michigan. It doesn't mean Cooper was dirty, too, but I can't imagine that he didn't get his hands a bit sticky while he was there.
As for the Buckeye comments, here's my favorite one:
Good news for Posey is that he's coming back in time for Michigan, thus giving him the opportunity (to be sure, an increasingly hypothetical opportunity) to win another pair of gold pants that he can promptly put on the market.It looks like everyone isn't buying into the party line down there.
October 7th, 2011 at 11:29 PM ^
Cooper only failed becaused he choked vs UM and in the bowls. Reportedly he took over the playcalling for those big games. He put together a lot of very strong teams. Lack of talent on the field was not a problem in the Cooper years.
October 7th, 2011 at 9:32 PM ^
Anyone know how much eligibility Posey even has left? What year is he?
October 8th, 2011 at 9:30 AM ^
Posey is a true senior this season. He has not redshirted but I don't think he can just hide from his suspension by redshirting this year. If he did elect to redshirt at this point, I think he would still have to sit out the first 5 games of next season.
October 8th, 2011 at 9:36 AM ^
...wouldn't he lose credit for the five games he's already served this year and have to sit out the first ten next year?
October 7th, 2011 at 9:33 PM ^
Cooper didn't fail, he was actually not so bad. He just couldn't beat Michigan.
October 7th, 2011 at 10:17 PM ^
failed vs. UofM was the intent, as to OSU's percieved standards.
October 7th, 2011 at 9:33 PM ^
Cooper didn't fail, he was actually not so bad. He just couldn't beat Michigan.
October 7th, 2011 at 9:34 PM ^
However, I just failed and committed a double post.
October 8th, 2011 at 10:29 AM ^
How can we be sure this wasn't the third, and you just changed it?
October 7th, 2011 at 10:06 PM ^
it's not like they have a quarterback who could get the ball to him anyway. I suppose he could be a mildly convincing distraction as the ball flutters to a stop 10 yards behind him
October 7th, 2011 at 10:53 PM ^
Just enough to bring him back for the Michigan game, eh? What a crock.
If the NCAA had any cajones, they'd have suspended him for the rest of the year. Crap like this is why I'm not expecting them to do anything more than a slap on the wrist for OSU when they finally issue a punishment for the violations.
October 7th, 2011 at 11:09 PM ^
Good times. It looks like a LOIC charge is going to be forthcoming. This is a recidivists penalty, even if just an individual one.
October 8th, 2011 at 12:24 AM ^
Back for the Michigan game? How Conveeenient!/churchladyvoice
October 8th, 2011 at 12:43 AM ^
5 games? HOW CONVENIENT
October 8th, 2011 at 1:14 AM ^
seriously cannot stop laufghign aloudf. sorry posting frrom phone
October 8th, 2011 at 10:09 AM ^
I don't mean to make light of the atrocities committed during the Chinese Cultural revolution, but Smith's antics always make me think of this classic Doonsebury cartoon.
October 8th, 2011 at 5:12 PM ^
Isolated incidents are isolated.
I guess tOSU can't see the forest (major violations) for the trees (secondary violations). And there are so many trees.
The NCAA needs to be whacked with the Giant Clue Bat upside the head. L-O-I-C.
October 8th, 2011 at 10:14 AM ^
The joke is actually on us and everyone else too.
October 8th, 2011 at 10:32 AM ^
Bring back Pryor too...we STILL beat Ohio in Ann Arbor. FTOSU!
October 8th, 2011 at 1:16 PM ^
The ongoing suspensions feel a little like what happened to Crawford under Amaker - the kid just kept getting short suspensions but he was basically out for half the year. He probably wil lplay against UM, but I wouldn't be surprised to see him out for the year.
October 8th, 2011 at 2:52 PM ^
"Julie Posey also directed blame at the university’s compliance office and board of trustees. She accused the university of using her son as a “pawn” to guard against harsher sanctions from the NCAA. Ohio State is awaiting a decision from the NCAA’s Committee on Infractions based on its Aug. 12 hearing related to the tattoos-for-memorabilia scandal that resulted in the original five-game suspensions to Posey, Herron, Pryor, offensive lineman Mike Adams and defensive lineman Solomon Thomas.
Julie Posey said the compliance office did not press a case on her son’s behalf despite having the documentation to do so.
“I really feel like my son has been used as a sacrificial lamb to help the university,” she said. “I feel that way because the information to clear him from this not only was ready and available, but it’s solid, concise information.
“It’s just mind-boggling and heart-wrenching that compliance and the board of trustees are OK with doing this to my son’s reputation and character, because it’s a total mischaracterization of him.”
She said the only explanation is that Ohio State is concerned about being hit with a failure-to-monitor penalty by the committee."
http://www.buckeyextra.com/content/stories/2011/10/08/ncaa-suspends-posey-for-5-games.html
October 8th, 2011 at 4:11 PM ^
What could possibly be in this documentation that would both:
1. clear Posey of any violation and
2. hit OSU with a failure-to-monitor?
October 8th, 2011 at 3:14 PM ^
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That is all.