Pep Hamilton on Shea: Can extend the play, make all the throws, plus other QB's
Peters has improved "taking command of the huddle, making faster better decisions." also briefly mentions Milton, DM. They haven't identified a leader at QB yet.
https://www.detroitnews.com/story/sports/college/university-michigan/20…
I assume they will identify the leader sometime around the end of this week or early next.
I think they may wait until the NCAA makes their decision on Shea's eligibility, whenever that may come.
That was the implication of my comment.
I typed, press "save" and regretted it after I reread your comment... my bad.
I thought you were making a joke about the inanity of the leader for the QB spot in late April. Is a decision imminent?
No jokes, decision is expected this week.
Confidence is sky high so I wouldn't stress it too much. Just set up notifications for @MGoFeed on twitter and you should get a good notification later in the week probably.
Mineral King is probably Balas, tbh
Please never use that hash tag again
April 23rd, 2018 at 10:43 AM ^
stated last week he expected a decision in the next 1-2 weeks after ole miss sent back their "no rebuttal" last week.
The QB floor this year will be higher than the ceiling last year. I have high hopes for our team in 2018.
Do better than Peters did last year. There have been two recent Heisman winners who were RS freshmen. Peters is way, way behind where someone who is going to be a high quality starter should be. Yes, younger players make mistakes, but they also show signs of real talent, if they're going to be any good. Peters did not.
April 22nd, 2018 at 10:10 PM ^
You just used exceptions to the rule to prove your point. Johnny Manziel and Jameis Winston were the ONLY 2 freshmen to win the Heisman ever. You can't use them as a baseline to compare Brandon Peters to. Peters showed good touch on the ball, good decision making, and didn't turn the ball over. He had a crappy OL and a bare bones receiving core where his best receivers were Grant Perry and a true freshman. You couldn't honestly expect BP to be Jameis Winston last season normally and especially not with the offensive personnel. The majority of freshman QBs we consider good are typically game managers at best. Giving up on BP after a few games during his RS freshman season with that offense would be plain stupid
April 22nd, 2018 at 10:23 PM ^
He was a strong Heisman candidate in his first year on the field. And he's hardly the last I could name.
Peter's stats were just plain bad. He showed no flashes of real talent that would make anyone think he had star potential. Compare him to a guy like Ryan Mallett who, despite having a rough statistical year as a true freshman, still showed that he had all of the tools to be a very good starting QB.
April 22nd, 2018 at 10:35 PM ^
In 6 games he finished with 672 yards, 53% completion percentage, 4 TDs and 2 INTs. And both of those INTs were against South Carolina in the bowl game. His stats weren't fantastic, but he showed flashed and who knows how he would've finished the season if he hadn't been knocked out against Wisconsin
Maybe not playing games will give him the leap
Like playing games didnt.
- Need to use yards per attempt (6.2)
- QBR was 113
- 4 TDs to 2 INTs
So, hardly horrible. Are these stats good? Not particularly. But they weren't horrible.
QB play WAS a big weakness last year. Was Peters good? No, he was bad. But he was a freshman.
And I would bet a LOT of money that plenty of NFL starting QBs played worse in their freshman year (if they played at all) than Peters played last year.
April 23rd, 2018 at 10:56 AM ^
Among current NFL starters:
11 didn't play or didn't play enough to judge - Joe Flacco, Nathan Peterman, Cam Newton, Aaron Rodgers, Ryan Tannehill, Tom Brady, Drew Brees, Eli Manning, Derek Carr, Carson Wentz, Alex Smith
1 played worse - Matt Ryan
2 played about the same - Kirk Cousins, Mitch Trubisky
18 played better - Deshaun Watson, Jameis Winston, Sam Bradford, Marcus Mariota, Blake Bortles, Pat Mahomes, Case Keenum, Ben Roethlisberger, Andrew Luck, Russell Wilson, Jimmy Garoppolo, Teddy Bridgewater, Dak Prescott, Phil Rivers, Jared Goff, Tyrod Taylor, Andy Dalton, Matt Stafford
That's not attempting to troll. What were some plays you would call flashes?
He was a debacle in the bowl game. Everything was painfully slow: decision-making, getting rid of the ball. Everything.
He should and will improve, but I just didn't see a guy who will develop the necessary football skills to play at a high level to match his arm talent.
April 23rd, 2018 at 10:10 AM ^
2:06 and 2:42 are flashes. He was making the simple throws most of the game but that was something none of our other QBs were making
2:06--maybe. It's essentially a 2-man route and it looks like both guys are covered. BUT he also looks like he's about to throw it down the field and holds up at the last minute. Does he see the DT bearing down on him? Does he, as is very typical of him, just not pull the trigger or trust his read? To his credit, he escapes pressure and hits the RB for a 1st down but without seeing the entire field or knowing his progressions we have no idea if this was a lost opportunity or creating something out of nothing.
2:42--Throws late and behind to the TE who is clearly open much earlier. There is no anticipation with him. And he rarely throws the ball on time.
Everything with him is just slow. From the reads to the release.
April 22nd, 2018 at 11:29 PM ^
You cannot expect like results when the only thing in common is the position played. Nothing, absolutely nothing else is the same between Peters and Mallet in terms of complementary players, i.e., receivers, protection RBs, et. al. I can tell you, however, that had he stayed in AA then your comparisons might hold validity because he too would have been throwing to inexperienced receivers, playing behind an inexperienced OL and working with two RBs that together didn't even get 1,000 yds. He decided against it. Hell Peters is ahead of him at this state in their career in the simple fact he showed some balls.
Now kindly refrain from posting similar, non-sensical comparisons.
but you may be right too.
is to try to argue that it's all about the supporting cast. Sorry, but it just isn't. And in any case, Mallet had lousy stats as a true freshman, as I mentioned. That wasn't the point. Go back and watch Mallet in his first start. It was obvious even then that he had more talent.
And frankly, all the "balls" in the world don't matter if a guy can't hit wide open receivers.
April 22nd, 2018 at 11:53 PM ^
April 23rd, 2018 at 12:58 AM ^
Chad Henne comes to mind. He single handedly cost us the ND game his freshman year. Tom Brady threw a pick six with his first college pass. Brian Griese won a National Championship but not before losing a QB competition to Scott Driesbach and almost being thrown off the team.
A bad season last year absolutely doesn't mean Peters won't end up being a good college player.
That being said - Peters was NOT good last year.
At a quick count, among Freshman/RS Freshman/Sophomores who had never played before last year and threw for at least 500 yards...
Peters was #26 in QBR.
Freshman/RS Freshman/Sophomores who had never played before 2017
More than 500 yards passing
Higher QBR than Peters:
Dwayne Haskins
KJ Costello
Tua Tagovailoa
Jake Fromm
Nick Starkel
Devon Modster
Jon Wassink
Nathan Rourke
Kenny Pickett
Charlie Brewer
Josh Jackson
Zeb Noland
Jarret Doege
Rex Culpepper
Anthony Brown
Armani Rogers
Cole Kelley
Luke Skipper
Peyton Ramsey
Kellen Mond
Skylar Thompson
Sam Ehlinger
James Blackman
Tevaka Tuioti
Marcus Childers
Feleipe Franks
April 23rd, 2018 at 10:35 AM ^
April 23rd, 2018 at 10:57 PM ^
If I remember correctly Brian Griese threw interceptions on his first two live possesions ever and he was like a redshirt junior. He turned out alright, just saying.
While obviously not great, we were anything but at rock bottom.
We weren't 3-9 with some kids committing ungodly crimes like seducing some unmarried women
April 22nd, 2018 at 10:52 PM ^
And littering.