Paul Chryst to Texas as an offensive analyst

Submitted by Ezekiels Creatures on May 28th, 2023 at 1:07 PM

 

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Grampy

May 28th, 2023 at 1:39 PM ^

He never impressed me as being particularly gifted on offense once you got past a running game behind a corn-fed OL. When an effective passing game would have made a difference, it was nowhere to be seen. 

Magnus

May 28th, 2023 at 3:04 PM ^

I mean...they had one of the most powerful running games in all of college football for several years. That's like saying "I was never very impressed with Mike Leach as an offensive coach because his teams didn't run the ball very well." 

There are very few teams/coaches who both run and pass the ball exceptionally well. In fact, there are probably just a couple who do it well on a regular basis in Nick Saban and Lincoln Riley (perhaps a couple others with shorter track records). So I think it's good to learn what you can from the run game guys and the pass game guys, and see what you can meld between the two.

Blue@LSU

May 28th, 2023 at 1:39 PM ^

Sark finally realized what the rest of us knew: that being a good/great offensive mind does not make you HC material. It's smart of him to surround himself with successful former HCs.

bronxblue

May 28th, 2023 at 2:42 PM ^

Chryst is a solid coach but he basically walked into a fully-operational battleship in the far-weaker division and then rode that plus Jonathan Taylor for some great seasons.  His QBs were never above-average even with a great offensive line and a dominating running game, and his playcalling apparently wasn't particularly creative or dangerous on gameday per reports by players when he left.  I'm sure he'll help Sark a bit in Texas but this feels a bit like Sark trying to pull off the Saban School for Wayward Coaches routine and I'm not sure it'll work out as well for him.  Texas is going to have to replace the Doak Walker winner and a rare first-round draft pick at RB with guys who probably aren't going to lead the nation in yards after first contact and will instead have to rely on an inconsistent QB who's on his 2nd team in 3 years and knows Arch Manning is waiting in the background to take his spot ASAP.

NittanyFan

May 28th, 2023 at 2:56 PM ^

Agree with all that --- Chryst is ultimately "just a dude."  An average coach: nothing special at all.

We'll see how things go with Fickell, but Wisconsin isn't what they were.  They're a combined 0-13 against OSU (8 losses) and PSU (5 losses) in the 2012-2022 era.  3 wins against Michigan in that era but they feel like they have asterisks: 2 at home in that era when U-M beat nobody decent on the road, and another in that stupid COVID year. 

They can't afford a 3rd straight not above-average coach (Alvarez and Bielema were, Gary Andersen and Chryst weren't).

energyblue1

May 28th, 2023 at 4:25 PM ^

Disagree, he coached at Wisconsin as qb and OC/qb coach before leaving to Pitt after the 2011 season, ie 44ppg at Wisconsin.  He returned as hc, 2015.  
 

being hc is different than oc but he did just fine as the oc and hc.  2012 after he left Wisconsin the offense avg less than 30 a game.  

bronxblue

May 28th, 2023 at 9:23 PM ^

Sure, but that 44 pt year he also had Russell Wilson at QB.

Maybe he'll be a really good OC,  but it also stands to reason that his Pitt offense were always mediocre and his Wisconsin offenses got way worse as they lost a transcendent RB.  And Wisconsin was great because of elite offensive line play and Texas decidedly doesn't have that and will be even more behind the eight ball when they go to the SEC.

I just think Chryst is an average coach who probably isn't going to recapture the magic at Texas, or at least not enough to make a markedly different outcome for a UT team that already has Sark calling plays.  But I'm fine being proven wrong.

OuldSod

May 28th, 2023 at 5:12 PM ^

By the time he was fired, there weren't many positions open. He will be a P5 candidate for head coach or coordinator after next season's terminations. An analyst position at a major program is a great job in this situation. He has to move but it allows him to spend more time with his family for a year before another move. That's desirable over immediately taking a head coaching job from a small and undesirable list.  

LSAClassOf2000

May 28th, 2023 at 6:13 PM ^

Paul Chryst is basically the textbook low-risk hire because he is, well, just a guy in a lot of respects. He walked into a ready-made program in Wisconsin - relative to the other teams in the Big Ten West anyway - and had a decent run. He never struck me as particularly gifted if you were looking for innovation, but then that has never been needed at Wisconsin (or Pitt). 

MgoFunk

May 29th, 2023 at 9:49 AM ^

I’d like to introduce something that I’ve been working on for a couple years now.  I call it the Sanford-Hynes Principle. I won’t call them bad so… subpar coaches are subpar. 

John Hynes was a not great coach for the New Jersey Devils and got fired.  The Nashville Predators had a playoff caliber team, saw Hynes available and said, “this is a good idea!”  They have not reached the playoffs since his hiring and just this season blew up their team to rebuild.  

Mike Sanford was the offensive coordinator for Notre Dame the first time I heard of him.   And the only reason I heard of him then was because Notre Dave played NC State in a literal hurricane and his play calling was so bad (pass heavy, in a hurricane) I had to look up who the OC was.  Fast forward a couple years, after winning back to back conference titles WKU announces him as their new head coach and promptly has back to back losing seasons and he is fired.

I like Paul Chryst as a person but this hiring gives me Hynes-Sanford vibes and also makes me feel better about the 2024 matchup with Texas at the same time.  His Wisconsin offenses were not inspiring and the way he used quarterbacks was bad but, maybe as an analyst it won’t have as much effect.

LeCheezus

May 29th, 2023 at 10:29 AM ^

You can come up with a new name for a derivative if you like, but it's all some form of the Peter Principle.  Someone does something good at some level then get promoted past their level of competence.  Sometimes they look competent for a while (Wile E Coyote year, or took over a program in good shape), but it usually ends up with a firing in a few years.

jmblue

May 29th, 2023 at 1:16 PM ^

I like Paul Chryst as a person but this hiring gives me Hynes-Sanford vibes and also makes me feel better about the 2024 matchup with Texas at the same time.

I think we're making too much of this.  He's not their OC, just an analyst - a guy in the film room.