Pac-12 submits NCAA proposal aimed at preventing Michigan’s spring break practices in Florida
http://collegefootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2016/11/02/pac-12-submits-ncaa…
Well, we all knew this was coming (though I'm surprised it's being initiated by the Pac-12). I'm sure this will turn into another footnote in the long line of NCAA decisions that harm the athlete experience.
November 3rd, 2016 at 10:07 AM ^
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November 3rd, 2016 at 10:56 AM ^
that this is common practice in many other collegiate sports (softball, baseball, etc....) -- are they gonna ban that also... 'cuz it would greatly damage the competitiveness of those sports to northern teams.....
November 3rd, 2016 at 4:54 PM ^
All of these proposals are anti-competitive and are ripe for an antitrust action should someone have the gumption to file a case.
We have to have some alums in congress capable of making a threat of congressional review. The NCAA would rollover in a minute.
November 3rd, 2016 at 10:07 AM ^
think the PAC 12 should focus on convinving people that their undefeated team should be in the playoff. Stick with that for the time being.
November 3rd, 2016 at 10:19 AM ^
OK, maybe we can let the PAC 12 have this one. BUT, in return, they need to agree that Oregon's uniforms are a direct assault on fashion and basic human decency, and that Oregon has to pick ONE uniform and stick with it for 5 years. And that one uniform has to look like it wasn't designed by a blind clown...
November 3rd, 2016 at 10:35 AM ^
one that actually looked like a duck........
Dear God.
November 3rd, 2016 at 10:59 AM ^
I know. You'd think with all that Nike money, they could find a fashion designer who wasn't trying to give us all epileptic seizures like some kind of perverse Japanese cartoon?
November 3rd, 2016 at 11:17 AM ^
just too much of what was originally a good thing. The Uniformz kind of gave Oregon a calling card, it was their thing and it was cool for a while. Some of the gear was actually pretty nice and clever. Then they got into this thing where they kept trying to out-do themselves and that is where things took a turn. Right now, I could not even tell you what Oregon's "real" uniforms actually look like, of if they have such a thing.
November 3rd, 2016 at 10:11 AM ^
Where's the proposal to ban head football coachs from operating the down marker at a high school football game played more than 50 miles from coach's home campus? I'm sure that one's coming.
November 3rd, 2016 at 10:36 AM ^
Ban the announcing of homecoming queens. Think of the children.
November 3rd, 2016 at 9:04 PM ^
The children are the grown adults acting like children because they know that if Jim Harbaugh is allowed to practice or run camps in good weather where kids all across the north and south would love to practice and he (Harbaugh) be able to recruit from these camps? Then it's Katy bar the door, Michigan will be winning NC's like Alabama except more. This is why the children they're looking out for are not the one's they should be worried about.
November 3rd, 2016 at 1:13 PM ^
Ban In-Season professional baseball games in which a glove is brought!
November 3rd, 2016 at 1:20 PM ^
November 3rd, 2016 at 1:35 PM ^
Ban Friday night football
November 3rd, 2016 at 10:13 AM ^
November 3rd, 2016 at 11:16 AM ^
That was my first thought, Coach will just grab 40 tutors and hit the road, maybe a practice in 5 different states just to make sure they realize that the rule doesn't work. And think of all the free advertising he would get from the mothership and their friends at the SEC Network. It will be epic.
All these people spend their time worrying about what Coach did in the past, he spends his time thinking up what he will do in the future. It's your classic, they are playing checkers and he is playing chess situation.
November 3rd, 2016 at 2:46 PM ^
Then SI will run an article about how it cost $17,000 and we all laugh at how they think that's a lot of money.
November 3rd, 2016 at 10:13 AM ^
Not even for the shade of anti-harbaugh, but the rule is just dumb. I don't even get why it's an issue.
November 3rd, 2016 at 10:17 AM ^
They crafted that proposal in a way that keeps spring break trip alive for other sports by adding the "away or neutral-site games" clause.
That's the part that made no sense about this proposal. So many other NCAA sports take spring or summer trips during vacation. Why would you need to bar this unless it is out of pure selfishness? So I guess the next step is that Michigan should schedule their Spring Game in Florida?
November 3rd, 2016 at 10:25 AM ^
Why would that language only affect football? All the other sports are "teams" and compete in various different places.The only word in the proposal that doesn't translate exactly is "games" . Other sports like tennis, golf and track compete in matches, tournaments and meets. Still regardless of what you call them, they are the equivalent of a game as they are competing against other institutions. The out of season point may be the one thing that protects the other sports, but not necessarily all of them.
I can tell you this. My son and his teammates (golf) will be pissed if their spring trip gets shit-canned because of some petty complaint aimed at protecting a few football programs.
November 3rd, 2016 at 12:25 PM ^
The fact that they use the word "game" explicitly (assuming the USA Today article is quoting verbatim) indicates that this is specifically aimed at football. Of course, you can further assume that it is equivalent to "competition" to be inclusive of other sports.
Other than that one word, the proposal seems carefully worded to allow for trips that baseball, basketball, golf, tennis, softball, etc. will take during and outside the season to participate in scrimmages and exhibitions, while getting the additional practice in. I'm guessing the one example given in the USA Today article (Harbaugh, Michigan) is literally the one example that exists.
http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/college/2016/11/02/ncaa-rules-stud…
November 3rd, 2016 at 10:15 AM ^
November 3rd, 2016 at 10:18 AM ^
Can't do an exhibition against another school. But I do wonder if they could schedule their Spring Game there.
November 3rd, 2016 at 10:22 AM ^
November 3rd, 2016 at 10:25 AM ^
Football is not allowed to play other programs in scrimmages outside of regular season games. There has been some talk that coaches want to change this rule and have a preseason game or scrimmage, but it does not exist right now.
November 3rd, 2016 at 12:28 PM ^
Does not exist in FBS, but it does exist in lower divisions.
Found an interesting and relevant article from 2010 that quotes some coaches in favor of and against preseason college football games.
For? Oregon State coach Mike Riley, Michigan coach Rich Rodriguez, and Indiana coach Bill Lynch.
Against? Ohio State coach Jim Tressel and Stanford coach Jim Harbaugh.
http://dailycaller.com/2010/09/02/preseason-in-college-football-why-not/
November 3rd, 2016 at 10:15 AM ^
Terrified of Jim and Michigan right now, even though we keep being close-to-dismissed when it comes to the national "journalists". The PAC-12 is worried about next spring - Harbaugh is worried about the next game.
November 3rd, 2016 at 10:18 AM ^
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November 3rd, 2016 at 10:31 AM ^
Sure act like it. What descriptor would you choose if not "terrified"? (seriously)
November 3rd, 2016 at 11:30 AM ^
November 3rd, 2016 at 12:08 PM ^
Okay, so perhaps not "terrified." But wouldn't you agree that Harbaugh taking a team from 5-7 to contending for a playoff spot in 2 years is making the SEC, Pac-12, and every other program in the country extremely agitated about what he's going to do next? He's made Michigan Football more visible than anyone outside of a handful of others - and it's attracting the nation's top recruits for the effort.
November 3rd, 2016 at 12:46 PM ^
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November 3rd, 2016 at 11:35 AM ^
They won't (sorry Washington) so they're looking ahead to future recruiting battles that they're going to lose (sorry again Washington).
November 3rd, 2016 at 10:17 AM ^
This is the PAC12 trying to protect the players from evil coaches who steal their free time by taking them on an all expenses paid trip to a warm environment to practice and bond as a team, all during a break from practices.
Think of the children people.
November 3rd, 2016 at 10:17 AM ^
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November 3rd, 2016 at 10:22 AM ^
The Spring Trip had other positives even if they were not the originally intended purposes. It was a nice reward for the players to get an all-expense paid trip to Florida and have spring practices in good weather. And it gave them more free time for Finals by moving practices to Spring Break which some players actually preferred.
November 3rd, 2016 at 10:19 AM ^
Afraid of competing with the big boys? Come on out to A2 and play a November game, you west coast panty waists!
November 3rd, 2016 at 10:35 AM ^
November 3rd, 2016 at 11:21 AM ^
This isn't RCMB
November 3rd, 2016 at 11:33 AM ^
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November 3rd, 2016 at 10:22 AM ^
Beat Maryland!
November 3rd, 2016 at 10:22 AM ^
That's really the issue. The warm weather states want no part of coming to the midwest/north during spring break so they want to stop the schools from that part of the country coming their way. It's so transparent it's almost funny.
They should recraft their proposal to read "We've had an advantadge - weather wise - for as long as football has been played and we have no interest in sharing it with others. Please stop trying to level the playing field."
The sad thing is the NCAA, being in the back pocket of the SEC, will prolly oblige.
November 3rd, 2016 at 10:58 AM ^
November 3rd, 2016 at 10:29 AM ^
We could work harder, and be smarter, no.....no I'd rather not do that.
November 3rd, 2016 at 10:32 AM ^
Let all of the conferences keep churning out band-aid proposals and nit-picky rules to stop Michigan. At some point I expect Harbaugh and Manuel to lead a PR campaign of changes to address all of the truly negative issues associated with recruiting. It will be fun to see the NCAA and the other conferences succomb to public opinion and finally reform.
November 3rd, 2016 at 11:58 AM ^
Let the PAC/SEC/ACC dig giant PR holes for themselves later, at which point Harbaugh can steamroll them into those graves later. Point out their cronyism and hypocrisy and just continue full speed ahead while they're stuck being blubbering bafoons in the eyes of the public and anyone with a grasp on reality.