Outside the box B1G expansion idea: McGill University

Submitted by MrWoodson on June 15th, 2023 at 11:15 AM

The B10 should add McGill University. Excellent academic reputation. AAU member. 28 varsity sports, including basketball, baseball, hockey, soccer, lacrosse. Would make the B10 the only international conference. And Canada has a population approaching 40 million (about the size of California). Yes, they would need to build an American football program. Idk if they even have club American football, but it can be done. And it's effectively contiguous to the B10 geographic footprint ... it's in Montreal. Oui oui!!

Edit: And if the point of college athletics is (1) marketing your university to as many potential future students as possible and (2) enhancing the student experience, how isn't adding an elite Canadian university (in french-ish Quebec) a home run? Imagine going to Montreal for an away football game. Or taking a semester at McGill immersed in French.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/McGill_University#Athletics

frodly

June 15th, 2023 at 10:12 PM ^

I went to NYU. The college experience was pretty amazing and getting to go to school in Greenwich Village is an experience that is pretty hard to beat. However, I did feel I missed out on the traditional university football/basketball game experience in the student section. I really wish I could have had that experience.

NittanyFan

June 15th, 2023 at 11:24 AM ^

FWIW, this wouldn't make the B1G the only international conference. 

Simon Fraser University (in suburban Vancouver, B.C.) has been a NCAA member for over a decade-now.  They play football in the D2 Lone Star Conference (yes, Lone Star, most of the other schools in the conference are from Texas!) and all other sports in the D2 Great Northwest Athletic Conference.  They went 1-9 in football last year.

https://athletics.sfu.ca/sports/football/schedule/2022

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This is tangential, but back in the day when Bobby Bowden and Joe Paterno were going back-and-forth in all-time wins, I would hear (PSU fan talking point) about how 2 of Bowden's wins while at Samford shouldn't count because they were over the National University of Mexico.  I don't know anything more than that, but they were apparently another a non-US based school that played some American college football games back in the late 1950s/early 1960s.

NittanyFan

June 15th, 2023 at 12:38 PM ^

You kid, but remember --- Rutgers once was the college football program with the most all-time wins!

Michigan may hold that honor now, but Rutgers intends to get that back.

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As to wins against Rutgers counting --- they better count!  Some schools have 3.4% of their all-time victories against Rutgers.

JetFuelForBreakfast

June 15th, 2023 at 12:27 PM ^

That's totally different... totally.

If the athletic department could take a page from the UM FOIA Office and perhaps not write the opponent on a freaking football and stick it in a glass case at Schembechler Hall for all to see perhaps these trivial details would pass more quickly into the ether.

Mods, please delete Qmatic's needlessly truthful post, have someone at Bentley change the opponent to Harvard, Yale, Notre Dame, Standord, or some other school we're better than at everything, and we can all forget this unfortunate oversight.

- Blue Brother

NittanyFan

June 15th, 2023 at 12:28 PM ^

The series Alex is doing on past Michigan games ---- I want to see a write-up on Michigan's March 12, 1883 7-1 victory over the Detroit Industrial Team.  It's a historic game, Michigan's first win in a game played in Ann Arbor.  But I have quite a few questions, LOL.  Why were they playing in March?  How did the scoring take place?  Did the weather, I'm guessing the game may have been played on a muddy and cold field, factor in?  What sort of folks played for the Detroit Industrial Team?  Did the Industrial Team recruit and pay their players - were they a bunch of no-good cheaters?

(that's all sarcastic - but in a way it would also be interesting, if it could possibly be researched)

As to the University of Mexico --- I looked them up and they regularly played American teams in the 1940s to early 1960s.  They also played in the 1945 Sun Bowl.  

907_UM Nanook

June 15th, 2023 at 2:03 PM ^

My UAF Nanooks have been playing the Simon Fraser Red Leafs for at least the past decade. And had several classmates who transferred from both SF & McGill. 2 things I've learned about our neighbors to the east/north: Don't make jokes about the maple leaf without expecting some backlash & B.C.ers are beyond arrogant about the beauty of their home.

NittanyFan

June 15th, 2023 at 2:16 PM ^

Nice, nice!  Yeah, UAF by necessity has some long-ass road trips, but it's cool that they (and UAA) can make it work.

I know way too much about conference realignment --- in both the MHSAA and lower division college athletics --- than I should, but UAF & UAA used to be in the Pac West.  Same conference as Chaminade, Hawaii-Hilo, BYU-Hawaii and Hawaii Pacific, as well as a bunch of California schools.  That was really a crazy-ass conference for travel.

907_UM Nanook

June 15th, 2023 at 6:18 PM ^

The UAF hockey team probably has the longest commuting of any D1 college hockey program every year, now that they're playing Long Island U in Brooklyn (about 200 miles further than Maui).

I grew up with the biggest early season basketball tournaments being hosted by 2 D2 schools, UAA (Great Alaska Shootout) & Chaminade (Maui Invitational). Kinda weird how that happened, but it was the pinnacle of sports in Anchorage seeing those powerhouse D1 teams come play on our tiny ~5,000 seat arena. And of course, UAA got a favorable whistle in every game!

NeverPunt

June 15th, 2023 at 11:27 AM ^

The point of college athletics at this stage is for your revenue generating sports to outpace the costs of running your non-revenue sports so your Athletic Department can turn a profit. The point of college conference expansion is to ensure you have a compelling and significant offering to broadcast networks to leverage that advantage to ensure highly lucrative contracts to help you achieve the first objective. 

I'm all for adding AAU schools but there is literally no point to adding a school to the B1G that doesn't have a football team.

S.G. Rice

June 15th, 2023 at 11:34 AM ^

Let's go even further outside the box and add the University of Phoenix.  80,000 students, national reach, soon to be acquired by the University of Idaho. 

It'sNotAToomer

June 15th, 2023 at 11:47 AM ^

I like it. I'd like the fit better if McGill was in Toronto, but if we're gonna be flying field hockey out to CA, why not get them passports and fly them to CAN while we're at it? I don't see it ever happening, but it's a fun idea, and a great university.

lhglrkwg

June 15th, 2023 at 11:48 AM ^

I'm sure the logistics are impratical, but I always thought it'd be cool to add someone like UofToronto or McGill as an affiliate for B1G hockey. Would help our Canadian recruiting for sure if we were playing games in Toronto and Montreal every season

Vasav

June 15th, 2023 at 11:58 AM ^

Oxford, Cambridge have excellent crew teams. That HAS to be the next front in expansion otherwise we will fall behind the SEC and go the way of the Big East.

And let's not forget the IITs and their cricket prowess, and a market that would mean 1 BILLION television sets would get the BTN. Of course we need the boys from Stellenbosch - sure they're famous for "rugby" but it's BASICALLY football, and then we'd be the first conference in Africa. Adding all 3 of those schools and that one system would up our academics, because research and money and profit. And really think about the students and this is good for their health.

/sarcasm

BakkerUSMC

June 15th, 2023 at 12:01 PM ^

I’m on board with this. I’d like to visit Europe too, so if we can add those too in my lifetime that would be great! Maybe my kids could catch a game in Australia in their lifetimes. 

Can you imagine the international games with the tall Dutch people against the strong Samoans?? It’s like Mutant League Hockey in real life!! I always enjoyed the alien team personally.

 

St Joe Blues

June 15th, 2023 at 12:16 PM ^

I guess if the Big Ten can have 12? 14? 16? (I've lost track - how many teams are there now?) teams in it, why can't the National Collegiate Athletic Association include schools that are international.

As long as their new football team doesn't expect to play by CFL rules for home games, I'm OK with it. Otherwise you'd have to prepare special for them like you do with Army. 

HAILtotheVICTOR33

June 15th, 2023 at 12:29 PM ^

Not a terrible idea, but granting your premise of adding schools from Canada being a good idea I would rank University of Toronto and University of British Colombia (Santa's last school) ahead of McGill. All schools have playing football for 100+ years, but Toronto and UBC are bigger (Toronto has an enrollment of 70,000!) are comparable academically, and have better football programs (marginally in Toronto's case).