Musberger & Palmer to be lead announcers for SEC Network:
Death of SEC soon to follow...
Musberger & Palmer to be lead announcers for SEC Network:
Death of SEC soon to follow...
I won't miss Brent at all but I don't like that the SEC network just poached some of the biggest names in announcing for their network.
ESPN owns the SEC Network and Brent wasn't poached, he was demoted.
He's well past his prime.
good old boy network, and anything that takes him away from games I watch is a blessing.
My theory is that the guys who develop schticks and spiels just become grating. Guys who are pretty bright, provide analysis, and have some personality are apparently hard to come by. Gus Johnson is obviously one.
Poached is probably not the right word but assigning Brent to that network adds instant credibiltiy. I can't stand Brent but this shines a bright light on that network.
He's good but he slobbers over the SEC a bit too much lately. This is the perfect hiring for them.
If ya know what I mean. *wink*
Actually, I think Brent took way too much flak for that.
Hyperbole is what Brent does. With Bama up 14 on ND and clearly heading for a blowout, what would you expect him to do? THe ABC cameras panned to Katherine Webb, giving Kirk & Brent a chance to talk about something other than the game. Brent was expected to comment, and, whadayano, he went with the superlatives.
That's my take.
"At one of the best pairs of legs I've ever seen, folks. That's Katherine Webb and I am one dirty old man ..."
Or words to that effect, anyway.
They can go get Gary Danielson back, pair them up together again, and 'em go nuts talking about great the SEC is.
GOD ... Thank you Lord
I personally can't stand Musberger. He was decent 20 or 30 years ago, but has been living off his name ever since. The SEC is welcome to him.
He was never decent or anything close.
I beg to differ your beg to differ. I remember how Brent would get everyone jacked up about how Martin Gramatica would celebrate after making a FG. Seriously, broadcasting does not get any better than bringing that morsel of fantastic analysis of a FG kicker's celebration than that...
/s (just in case it wasn't obvious)
Palmer isn't a surprise; Musberger is a get for them. I just hope Brent is ready to completely ignore the 50% turnover at Alabama every year.
Who would replace him? Would Tirico do double duty MNF and Saturday college?
It'll be either Fowler or Reece Davis. Probably Fowler teamed up with Herbstreit. If Fowler does the Primetime game, Reece may take over College Gameday.
Fowler just reupped with ESPN through 2023. He'll pull double duty on Gameday and the primetime game just like Herbstreit.
he will no longer do primetime?
No more Primetime game and he won't do any of the big bowls or playoff games.
So, BTN gets some of the biggest morons in the industry to be announcers, even after being established for a while now, and the SEC Network gets one of the biggest names right out of the gate...Step your game up, BTN.
There's a big difference between the SECN and BTN. BTN is owner by Fox who up until recently barely did any college football. The SEC Network is owned by ESPN who has announcers, reporters, and analysts galore to spare. Plus, they've been doing CFB for decades. So the SECN should be very polished right out of the gate.
What I don't understand is that most games worth watching are already covered by the major networks, ESPN, BTN, etc. When LSU and Bama play, it's already covered. You could put it on the SECN; with significantly fewer viewers compared to ABC or ESPN, but that makes no sense. When there are many games on at the same time, it's all about the size of the fan base, and Mississippi State vs Vandy won't draw many viewers. Unless you have a connection to those two schools, you are watching something else.
Someone please explain to me why the SECN is a big deal.
It's the exact same reason BTN is a big deal. You may piss on an Ole Miss Vandy matchup, but it's really no different than a Wisconsin Northwestern matchup. Plenty of people will still watch it.
For all it's glory, the SEC has a lot of conference games that don't air anywhere major. They get a CBS slot and maybe an ESPN slot but that's it. There's plenty of decent games they can air on a weekly basis.
Palmer and shitberger r awful no big loss
I like Jesse Palmer.
Mustyberger has never been anything more than a used car salesman pantomiming announcers.
I hope he only does SEC games.
Your wish is granted?
announcer, but I always associate his name with big games. I will miss him out of nostalgia.
When I hear "You are looking live . . .", I get chills because I know it's a big, important, national game I'm about to see.
Then I turn off the sound.
One of the best....not sure what the others are talking about.
I'm just spitballing here, but I think we're talking about how we think he's one of the worst . . . .
Some of us go with what the national consensus has been, for many years; that Brent Musberger has, over a long career, been one of the best all-around sportscasters in his business. And particularly good with Big Ten football and basketball, being a product of Northwestern University and Chicago sportswriting.
Nobody mentioned his one great failure, which was golf. Musberger was handed a big role in golf when he was at ABC in the days after Jim McKay (who was great at everything including golf), and Brent was a train-wreck in trying to call golf. It is really his only significant professional failing.
to not have to listen to Musberger any more. Dude has no clue.
so I can watch an SEC game again without wanting to cut off my ears
For someone who will be 75 in May and has Musburger's career, it doesn't sound all that bad - (LINK). His revised duties:
"The current contract of Musburger, who turns 75 in May, was up as of early this year. His new deal is for multiple years and includes calling a college bowl game on ESPN, as well as Big 12 basketball."
The article also mentions that, so far, they've got the SEC Network coming to 20 million homes.
Can't wait to see what happens when he goes full Danielson and becomes a total SEC homer. I swear, Danielson is an entirely different human being in the booth for the SEC on CBS, and it sucks.
transformation from terrific, objective color man to complete SEC Slappy has been disturbing. Its actually hard to watch some of those broadcasts.
It's time for Brent to hang out up. I won't miss him for big games.
When Brent Musberger did a game, you knew instinctively it was a big game, and his performance was routinely good.
The only underrated guy I can think of for them to promote is Mike Patrick, who is probably the most underrated play-by-play pro among the second-line announcers in the ESPN stable. Brad Nessler is of course the Number 2 play by play guy to Musberger; and Nessler is very good of course.
Musberger had developed chemistry with Kirk Herbstreit (also very good) and that will be lost now, apparently.
Big win for the SEC, getting Musberger and Jesse Palmer.
Well we've still got
Pam Ward Beth Mowins, right?
You can have her. Keep her as long as you'd like.
"and his performance was routinely good."
Uhhh.... Not so much.
McDonough and Herbie sounds like a solid team to me.
Griese probably gets a promotion as well. Spielman would probably need a new partner if McDonough goes with Herbie.
Good riddance, you creepy, creepy asshole.
Also said some pretty horrible/racist things about Tommie Smith and John Carlos in '68.
a spit take reading this. I don't really know why, but "you creepy, creepy asshole" just really got to me. Thanks for the LOL.
"Also said some pretty horrible/racist things about Tommie Smith and John Carlos in '68."
Wow....I thought my wife could hold a grudge. I wasn't even born in '68 so I have no idea what comments you're referring to, but for someone to hold comments a guy made about someone else almost 50 years ago is a little wierd to me. I mean, maybe if they were directed at you but someone else....
In my lifetime I have never heard him say anything remotely racist so though I fit in the "good riddance" crowd I don't share your reasons for being there.
I always associate Musberger with the way he botched that situation. He referred to the men in an article as "black-skinned stormtroopers." This was taken as a Nazi reference by many.
Kevin Nealon lampooned him on Saturday Night Live after CBS fired both Jimmy and Musberger in the 1980s (I think Al Franken played Jimmy the Greek). It was one of the most brilliant sketches they've ever done.
Is it the demographic on this Board? I think it is disgraceful, to allow anybody to get away with blandly calling Musberger "racist" and leaving it as though it were an accepted fact. Naturally, at a left-wing site like The Nation, playing that race card against Musberger and in favor of a couple of 60's race-protest icons like Carlos and Smith goes over pretty easy. It was The Nation's leftist sprotswriter Dave Zirin who dug up the 40 year-old column by a young Brent Musberger, writing for the Chicago American. Zirin co-wrote a book with the subject of the story, American Sprinter John Carlos, and it is clear where Zirin's sympathies lie. Nothing wrong with that of course; Zirin can take whatever viewpoint he likes. And he most certainly has.
The big thing was to pick on Musberger's phrase, "black-skinned stormtroopers" in one line of a much longer column. The pretty obvious reason for that description was the self-styled "salute" that Carlos and Smith chose, with black-gloved fists raised high with heads bowed, reminiscent of salutes to der fuhrer during the days of the Third Reich. (Just think; we are farther in time now removed from 1968, than they were removed from the liberation of the death camps, in 1968.)
The reason for the right and left raised fists is that the two sprinters only had one pair of gloves and so they each took one.
Anyway, that's pretty much where any criticism of Musberger, circa '68, ends. The rest of his column for the American was well-written and remarkably correct. Correct, that is, for anybody who doesn't work for The Nation and who is devoted to the social protests of the 1960's.
I give The Nation and Dave Zirin credit for precisely one thing; they reprinted the entire 1968 column by Musberger. (The Chicago American no longer being around to claim any copyright, I suppose.) Here are some of the relevant bits that I commend to anybody really interested in the inflammatory charge that Musberger wrote a "racist" column about Carlos and Smith. Here are the opening paragraphs:
Bizarre Protest by Smith, Carlos Tarnishes Medals
by Brent Musburger
mexico city—Tommie Smith and John Carlos must be labeled unimaginative blokes if they can’t come up with a stronger and more effective protest than the one they staged her last night during the Olympic medal ceremony honoring their accomplishments in the 200-meter run.
Smith and Carlos looked like a couple of black-skinned storm troopers, holding aloft their black-globed hands during the playing of the National Anthem. They sprinkled their symbolism with black track shoes and black scarfs and black power medals. It’s destined to go down as the most unsubtle demonstration in the history of protest.
But you’ve got to give Smith and Carlos credit for one thing. They knew how to deliver whatever it was they were trying to deliver on international television, thus insuring maximum embarrassment for the country that is picking up the tab for their room and board here in Mexico City. One gets a little tired of having the United States run down by athletes who are enjoying themselves at the expense of their country.
Protesting and working constructively against racism in the United States is one thing, but airing one’s dirty clothing before the entire world during a fun and games tournament was no more than a juvenile gesture by a couple of athletes who should have known better.
If Smith and Carlos were convinced that the ends justified their black power demonstration during the National Anthem, they should have avoided the award ceremony altogether. If it’s true, as hayes Jones says, that an athlete competes for himself but walks to the stand for his country, then a more courageous protest would have been for Smith and Carlos simply to stay away and not pick up their medals.
I gather from the dateline (Mexico City) as well as the next part of the column, that Musberger was there in Mexico City and was an eyewitness to some of what happened. Because the column goes on like so:
An Ignoble Performance
Their ignoble performance on the victory stand completely overshadowed a magnificent performance by two black athletes. It’s a shame. Smith will not now be remembered as that splendid runner who so thoroughly demolished the world’s record that he ran the last 10 yards with both arms held high in triumph over his head as he crashed through the finish line in the fantastic time of 19.8.
He will instead be remembered as the militant black who shook a black glove and black track shoe during the playing of the National Anthem. It hardly seems on the level with his first accomplishment, and it did absolutely nothing to relax racial tensions any place.
Another sorry performance developed on the bus ride back to the Olympic village after the ceremony. Smith and Carlos, along with their wives, boarded a bus with a group of tourists who were headed in the same direction.
Upon spotting the two winners, an indignant California tourist declared: "I was ashamed of both of you. That was a disgraceful performance." This ignited a loud public debate between the two Olympic medal winners and the irate tourist, as ears around the world sucked up the ugly words.
A Canadian journalist, Dick Beddoes of Toronto, finally broke up the argument. Then he, too, wound up debating Carlos, who wasted all of the post-race interview time last night lecturing the assembled journalists on what they should think and write...
Then came what I think was the best line of the column. Maybe this is the line that pissed off Dave Zirin the most (although Zirin seemed content to go as Godwin as Musberger did, and pick on the "black stormtroopers" trope):
Perhaps it’s time that 20-year-old athletes quit passing themselves off as social philosophers.
So have at it, MGoBoard! You find the most racist part of the 1968 Brent Musberger column. I call bullshit on the "Brent Musberger = "racist" smear.