OT: What do you think about the Bears hire? Marc Trestman.
First forum topic, training wheels are still on. Please, show some sympathy if this isn't up to your high standards. . I know the board is mostly Lions Fans. But, there are some alums/fans on the board who root for Da Bears! I receive my sports news from MGoBlog and 670 The Score out of Chicago. I listened to Marc's press conference and his first interview on the Score. There is no doubt he won the day. He has said all the right things. But, we will see come September.
Negatives:
-Bears Management promised to make a splash. They said they were going to go out and hire a "Wow" coach. Along the lines of Gruden, Reid, Billick, Cowher etc.
-Trestman is 57 years old and has never been given a chance to be the "Man" in the NFL. Must be a reason.
-Marinelli may have been a dumpter fire as a head coach. But, is a very good defensive coach, and he won't be returning.
Positives:
-Rich Gannon, Steve Young, Jerry Rice. Players he coached, have very good things to say about him. They all mentioned he has a way of being honest with his players, taking their opinion and game planning around what they like, and don't like. Important: See the next positive.
-He hasn't committed to saying Jay Cutler is a franchise QB. This is a positive to me because I don't think he is one. Trestman did say he can't wait to get his hands on Cutler.
-Ran the hurry up offense, when Rich Gannon won the MVP. This is key to being a top offense in the NFL. The Patriots get off 5-10 plays a game without the defense being lined up.
-Hired Joe DeCamillis to coach Special Teams.
-A student of the game, seems to be extremely intelligent. He mentioned in the press conference, that he watches every game of the NFL's top offense. At the end of season.
-Jay "Prima Donna" Cutler said he couldn't be more excited, and thinks it is a great hire.
I think this is very similar to the hiring of Brady Hoke. It wasn't the "wow" name that anyone wanted. But, will bring lots of energy to a job he has been waiting for his entire life. He finally gets a chance to prove to the rest of the NFL, that they made a mistake never giving him a chance. If he hires the right defensive coordinator (like Hoke did with Mattison) I think this hire will turn out to be a great one.
Sorry, I had no idea this would be so long. Bears/Lions/NFC North fans. What are your thoughts?
January 17th, 2013 at 5:58 PM ^
January 17th, 2013 at 6:07 PM ^
As a Lions "fan" (i.e. I don't really care about any team), I agree. I laughed when they picked up Cutler and thought he was going to be the savior of the team.
January 17th, 2013 at 6:18 PM ^
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January 17th, 2013 at 7:15 PM ^
That's why I put fan in quotes. I enjoy making fun of them more than anything.
January 17th, 2013 at 6:39 PM ^
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January 17th, 2013 at 6:01 PM ^
i am a lions fan and love the hire. love it. between him and cutler i see a free fall into ryan leaf territory -
http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/8854058/ryan-leaf-booted-treatment-ce…
January 17th, 2013 at 6:48 PM ^
I'm from from Montreal where Trestman has been coaching. His team has been in the championship game 3 out of the 5 years he coached here, winning twice. I believe I heard he helped Cutler (and many others) prepare for the draft. Without his help I doubt Cutler gets drafted in the first round. I am not a Cutler fan at all, but I think this is a good hire.
January 17th, 2013 at 7:56 PM ^
teams consistently pass him up for coaching jobs for nearly a decade? He went to Montreal because he had no other option.
January 17th, 2013 at 8:31 PM ^
January 17th, 2013 at 8:49 PM ^
Roughly when are you coming and what are you into? Let me know and I'll look into it for you. I live about 20 mins south of Montreal and don't spend a great deal of time there anymore. But I'm sure I can give you some suggestions.
January 18th, 2013 at 2:56 PM ^
Will be there on Labor Day. Looking to do bachelor party type things.
January 17th, 2013 at 6:02 PM ^
who coached with Trestman in 2001, was approached by the Bears. In turn, Gruden might have recommended him. I think he's a solid, if not great, hire.
January 17th, 2013 at 6:07 PM ^
I don't know much about Trestman to begin with but not retaining Marinelli seems very foolish to me, we'll see how a veteran roster adjusts to new coaching/scheme.
January 17th, 2013 at 6:22 PM ^
January 17th, 2013 at 6:48 PM ^
Upvote for the umlaut.
January 17th, 2013 at 6:08 PM ^
I was listening to Waddle and Silvy in the car this morning and the general consensus is that Bears fans are excited. They had a few negative things to say about his appearance and combover and that he was a Lions assistant.
The main thing people in Chicago want to see is a competant offense. After watching the debacle of Mike Tice and his inability to get a play call in they are looking forward to an up tempo offense that can score consistently.
January 17th, 2013 at 6:15 PM ^
Don Shula and Bill Belichick.
I think Trestman is going to be disaster the magititude of Rod "Pound the Rock "Marinelli, but being a Lions assistant is indicative of nothing.
January 17th, 2013 at 6:30 PM ^
I live in Chicago and I'm a bears fan, and I really wanted this guy. He has coched good people in the pros, and the yall have great things to say. I like it so much more than, "Hey, lets hire [insert O/D coordinator of team that just had a really good Offensive/Defensive year]" This guy is proven, not just someone who had one good year as a coordinator. Also, I don't know why someone thinks a transition from college to pros would be easier than a guy whos been in the pros and head coached in Canada.
January 17th, 2013 at 8:00 PM ^
His track record is spotty at best. The NFL basically apssed on this guy for ten years. What does that tell you?
January 17th, 2013 at 10:28 PM ^
Steve young, to Scott mitchet, to Jake Plummer, to Rich Gannon. All them had good season with him, so I'd hardly call it spotty. There's lots of reasons someone may not have made it to the head coaching ranks. He seems like someone who wasn't into the politics it took to get the head coaching gig. So he went to Canada to do it, and proved himself well.
January 17th, 2013 at 6:13 PM ^
January 17th, 2013 at 6:33 PM ^
For those who aren't familiar, here is the resume in brief for Trestman:
YEAR(S) | POSITION |
1981–84 | University of Miami (VC/QB) |
1985–86 | Minnesota Vikings (RB) |
1987 | Tampa Bay Buccaneers (QB) |
1988/1989 | Cleveland Browns (QB/OC) |
1990–91 | Minnesota Vikings (QB) |
1995–96 | San Francisco 49ers (OC & QB) |
1997 | Detroit Lions (QB) |
1998-00 | Arizona Cardinals (OC & QB) |
2001-03 | Oakland Raiders (QB/OC) |
2004 | Miami Dolphins(/AHC) |
2005–06 | North Carolina State |
(Offensive Coordinator) | |
2008–12 | Montreal Alouettes |
(head coach) | |
2013–present | Chicago Bears |
(head coach) |
He's been in enough places and had enough experience that this is probably a pretty sound - but not exciting by any means - hire for the Bears from the experience angle alone (and to be fair, of course, not all hires need to be exciting), and the players that he has worked with do say very positive things about him, which I think you would want out of a coach, but still, I will be interested in what the staff looks like almost as much.
January 17th, 2013 at 6:17 PM ^
If the Bears decide to promote from within for the DC spot, Brady Hoke's brother Jon would probably be the guy.
January 17th, 2013 at 6:17 PM ^
Is also a frontrunner to become DC.
January 17th, 2013 at 6:19 PM ^
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January 17th, 2013 at 6:51 PM ^
January 17th, 2013 at 6:53 PM ^
Trestman is clearly a good coach but he walked into an awesome situation in Montreal after Don Matthews (CFL HOF coach) retired. Player Personnel in Montreal is excellent in the CFL and he was gifted with the presence of multi-year Most Outstanding Player (see how the CFL does that?) Anthony Calvillo at Quarterback.
I'm not saying he won't have success at Chicago I'm suggesting that much like following Matthews who stopped coaching due to illness Trestman will follow a pretty successful Lovie Smith and inherit a quality quarterback.
January 18th, 2013 at 12:25 AM ^
Trestman did nothing much here that wasn't groundwork of others. Took an already loaded team to a few finals in an 8-team league where 6 make the playoffs. Won twice, once despite himself.
Didn't have to look at the D, it is the CFL. He walks into a nice o setup in Chi.
Not an epic disaster but doubt he will take Chi over any humps, particularly that green and yellow one in Wisconsin...
January 17th, 2013 at 7:38 PM ^
Jay isn't elite, but he is damn good and could be elite if they fix the OF line and bring more skill players in via the draft. Bears fans are just like ND fans, looney tune characters!!
To the OP, the hire is a yawn at best.
January 17th, 2013 at 7:55 PM ^
Comparing Denard to Cutler is the joke. It is a fact, that Cutler is not easy to work with. He would admit that himself. I don't care that he yells at his linemen or that he got hurt in the NFC Championship game. The guy is a dick. I never said I didn't like him, he is what he is. Are you his mother? You seem really butt hurt by this.
January 17th, 2013 at 8:05 PM ^
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January 17th, 2013 at 9:17 PM ^
I lived in one of the "hill" dorms at UMich and, to this day, whenever I see that name spelled Marc instead of Mark, I think of all the East Coast guys whose friends (from the same part of the world) would yell "MAAAWWWWWWWK!" out the window.
I hope that makes sense to someone.
January 17th, 2013 at 10:39 PM ^
I lived on the hill (Markley) 42 years ago, and it still makes perfect sense to me. Things haven't changed that much.
January 17th, 2013 at 9:57 PM ^
January 17th, 2013 at 10:42 PM ^
or Marinelli or any of the other knuckleheads the Lions have hired since 1964.
January 18th, 2013 at 1:08 AM ^
Bears fan here and I think the prevailing consensus is it's a boom-or-bust type deal. He's either a great offensive mind with the wisdom and personality of a Head Coach who was simply overlooked when it came to openings earlier in his career or he stumbled into good situations and didn't completely fuck them up, but is ill-equipped to deal with the day-to-day stuff required by an NFL HC. And that he has no idea what to do with the defense or who to hire to run the defense.
To his credit... Jake Plummer, Scott Mitchell, and Rich Gannon turned in career years when Trest was the OC for them. Getting Scott Mitchell to have something that could be considered a "good" year is something of a miracle.
My prediction: Proves his offensive guru label and turns Cutler's career arc from Jeff George to John Elway. Hires proven DC which wins over Bears veterans on defense. Wins 10 straight Super Bowls before retiring.
January 18th, 2013 at 3:52 AM ^
January 18th, 2013 at 9:40 AM ^
for not hiring a guy fired by another team. They also thought out of the box. In the end, we'll see, but I'm impressed with the Bear's Management sticking to picking their best guy available.