OT: USA Today CFB Assistant Coach Salary Database
I found out that USA Today has posted a database of assistant coach salaries.
http://www.usatoday.com/sports/college/salaries/ncaaf/assistant/?sf20544809=1
ESPN also has a post looking specifically at the big ten.
http://espn.go.com/blog/bigten/post/_/id/91590/a-look-at-the-b1g-assistant-salaries
I'm personally hoping this doesn't turn too negative, but I wanted to share this information regardless.
December 12th, 2013 at 2:53 PM ^
Greg Mattison with the 4th highest and Al Borges with the 9th highest assistant salary in all of CFB for those who don't want to look, FWIW.
December 12th, 2013 at 2:57 PM ^
Thanks for including this, I forgot to add it in the original post.
December 12th, 2013 at 3:06 PM ^
December 12th, 2013 at 3:11 PM ^
Not bad, if we can just get 75% of this money's worth in performance we will be elite
December 12th, 2013 at 3:21 PM ^
yes, but borges should reimburse me for my tickets.
December 12th, 2013 at 3:06 PM ^
or we are idiots, not sure which one since there is a disconnect between pay and performance.
December 12th, 2013 at 3:13 PM ^
I wonder where DB process and his evaluation of coaching??? I wonder how hoke, borges, and mattison graded
December 12th, 2013 at 3:21 PM ^
yeah its not like hes an experienced offensive coordinator who has been coaching for decades and probably commands that kind of pay.
December 12th, 2013 at 3:27 PM ^
I wish my boss feels the same way you do. Years of service = higher pay regardless of performance.
December 12th, 2013 at 3:33 PM ^
Uh, yeah... Okay, Borges.
December 12th, 2013 at 5:02 PM ^
Whoa buddy.
Just because he's been coaching for a long time doesnt mean he should make a lot of $$.
As already stated elsewhere Borges track record has always seen his offenses start off hot, then decline over his tenure which eventually results in his ouster from the program. Not exactly conducive to garnering a premium salary.
Also, when you consider that he tagged along with Hoke then yes, people myself included, tend to believe Michigan overpaid.
December 12th, 2013 at 7:36 PM ^
UCLA ("developed" Cade McNown... his "biggest turnaround")--> Cal (fired) --> Indiana --> Auburn (with God's gifts to offense as players) resigned to avoid being fired --> San Diego State (ooooh 9 wins in the MWC! Amazzunngggg) --> Michigan with a MICHIGAN MAN
December 12th, 2013 at 8:55 PM ^
Yes, the college football world thought so much of him after he was fired from Auburn that he worked no where in 2008 before resurfacing at a Mountain West school.
Pull your head out of the sand. Borges is the luckiest man in college football right now to be getting this kind of jack with his resume/results.
December 12th, 2013 at 10:08 PM ^
GERG has been coaching for decades as well. Just because inertia is a strong force in coaching retention doesn't mean every guy in line deserves to be paid.
December 12th, 2013 at 4:22 PM ^
Most coordinators have 1-year contracts, but there has been a slow move to multi-year contracts for high-level coordinators as a way to prevent the yearly salaries from going hire and to keep them from jumping to HC positions and low-level schools.
Borges was given a 1-year contract for 2011, but after we finished 11-2, he was given a 3-year contract. His contract will be up next year and if he doesn't perform, then he'll obviously be out.
December 12th, 2013 at 3:09 PM ^
If you sort the USA Today table by conference, Mattison and Borges would be #1 an #2 in the conference respectively, although Borges is tied with Tim Beck (OC at Nebraska). The next on the list, making $95,000 less than Borges and Beck, is Luke Fickell and then you need to lop off another $30,000 to get to Everett Withers. Much beyond these guys (Tom Herman and Pat Narduzzi are the next two down), assistant salaries take a dive in the Big Ten.
December 12th, 2013 at 3:16 PM ^
What I find interesting is that even though Mattison and Borges have salaries higher than any other assistant in the Big Ten, OSU still has the highest paid staff.
December 12th, 2013 at 3:49 PM ^
OSU essentially pays for two DCs, and that drives up their overall budget.
December 12th, 2013 at 4:10 PM ^
other than Luke Fickell is their DC?
December 12th, 2013 at 4:18 PM ^
I think he mistakenly put DC's when they actually have co-OC's, Herman and Warriner.
December 12th, 2013 at 4:35 PM ^
Withers and Fickle are Co-DCs. Supposedly (and this is insane in my mind) one calls the base play and the other calls the coverage behind it.
But, I was wrong in not realizing they had two OCs (on top of Meyer not being affraid to call plays). I guess whatever works for them, but if half your coaching staff is coordinators, it seems kind of strange.
December 12th, 2013 at 4:55 PM ^
isn't the coverage an integral part of the play?
would it be like, one decides if they're in nickel, and the other decides zone/man, two-deep safeties, etc.?
December 12th, 2013 at 6:07 PM ^
One calls the base front (so 4-3 Over, for example) and then the blitz, the other calls the coverage. I have no idea how that makes any sense. I'm sure they have some calls that can't be paired with certain coverages, but it sounds stupid to me.
But I don't like use of multiple coordinators on either side of the ball, so...
December 12th, 2013 at 10:12 PM ^
To be fair, after watching that secondary the last 4-5 games, it really shouldn't surprise anyone how stupid this is in practice. Still, it boggles my mind that they basically have 4 coordinators for two positions.
December 12th, 2013 at 10:34 PM ^
I believe that TCU has two separate playcalls, one for base plays and other are for coverage. Seems weird, but apparently it works for TCU defense.
December 12th, 2013 at 8:58 PM ^
Isn't that the same system Meyer had at Florida with Mattison and Strong?
December 12th, 2013 at 4:28 PM ^
Also OSU pays their position coaches substantially more than does Michigan and all of them are eligible for bonuses. Not sure if the chart is accurate, but if so neither UM nor MSU offers bonuses to their coaching staffs.
December 12th, 2013 at 4:51 PM ^
I'm pretty sure we do offer bonuses to our staff if the team meets certain standards.
December 12th, 2013 at 3:24 PM ^
the narduzzi/borges comparisons are amusing. however, given that narduzzi owns borges, perhaps narduzzi takes borges' salary too.
December 12th, 2013 at 9:00 PM ^
"Amusing" is one word. "Infuriating" is another.
December 12th, 2013 at 4:03 PM ^
Thanks for posting that because I am the laziest son of a bitch in the galaxy.
December 12th, 2013 at 2:54 PM ^
I love that he's listed as getting $1,150,000 in "school pay" and $350 in "other pay." I'll bet it's the $350 that really pushes Alabama over the top as a place to coach.
December 12th, 2013 at 3:14 PM ^
The parking spot right on campus may be valued at $350, but its priceless IMO!
December 12th, 2013 at 3:16 PM ^
That's the cabbage he got from HaHa.
December 12th, 2013 at 3:12 PM ^
Mario Price got hosed.
December 12th, 2013 at 3:13 PM ^
Could we offer Borges salary to doug Nussmeier the current OC at Bama, or Major Applewhite, the current OC at Texas? Or maybe we could try and get Bama's Ol coach, Cristobel.
December 12th, 2013 at 3:40 PM ^
Did anybody stroll down to the end of the list by any chance? Poor Mario Price from Lousiana-Monroe. I have no idea what he's doing for them but it only pays 20k making his pay dead last of all assistants in college football.
To look at it another way - we could afford 35 Mario Price's for the cost of one Al Borges. And while I dont know exactly what 35 Mario Price's would do for the team, I have faith that hiring 35 people to coordinate our offense might actually be an improvement!
December 12th, 2013 at 4:06 PM ^
These coaches could probably get HC positions in Texas and make a good deal more money than they are at their positions. This is pretty much what scared me away from trying to make coaching a living though. Not only are you stuck moving around, trying your best to latch on to the right programs, and so on, these guys are also bouncing up and down from D1 to D2, taking pay cuts in efforts to move up, changing positions every 2-5 years, hoping they get lucky and that the guys around them do their jobs so it doesn't make them look bad by association, so on and so forth just so 15 years in can hopefully and luckily get a position job at a major conference university.
There is just so much uncertainty in that profession, and just because you're paid less, doesn't mean you're working less. The hours and stress are insane, it's not just insane on you but on your family. Some of these salaries, yes, they are quite nice. But when you only have job security for 1-3 years at a time and you have to take time off in between jobs, and if you lose one job you may never be able to work your way back, well, it's tough.
December 12th, 2013 at 3:40 PM ^
Does anybody know how much Hoke makes in reference to other head coaches? Is it possible that the reason Mattison and Borges are so high up is because Hoke makes less than other head coaches allowing for more money to be allocated to the other coaches? Or does Michigan just have the money to pay all 3 so well?
December 12th, 2013 at 3:45 PM ^
http://www.coacheshotseat.com/SalariesContracts.htm
It looks like Hoke is in 11th in the country.
December 12th, 2013 at 3:56 PM ^
It's very interesting to see the comparison of how much the HC, OC, and DC make at the different schools. I was adding up a few of them myself but I wonder if someone has the time to hash out a chart...just sayin
December 12th, 2013 at 9:06 PM ^
Hoke is actually 8th in the country (second in the Big Ten) at 4.15 million per.
http://www.usatoday.com/sports/college/salaries/ncaaf/coach/
So it looks like Michigan just pays their coaches a lot regardless of results.
December 12th, 2013 at 4:00 PM ^
And I know how this will come off given my position on things, but you are generally not going to pay exceedingly more for one coordinator than the other. There are reasons for this from a business standpoint and as a view from the outside.
But you look at this list, and the only real disconnects are Nebraska (Pelini is essentially the DC) and MSU (who just promoted from within and has co-OCs). Wisconsin, Illinois, and Purdue all make within 5k of their respective counterpart. Most others are very close as well.
You can hate it, but if you give Borges 300k less than Mattison, it looks obvious that you are favoring one side of the ball. And whether that is true or not isn't really the point, perception will drive that thought. And this isn't just a B1G thing, scroll though all the other schools and you see the same trend. You can ask a bunch of questions as far as is it worth it for this guy, should we get a guy that is worth an equal salary, is this the right way to do business, etc. But if Hoke and Brandon believe Borges is their guy, regardless on if he's the 4th best OC or not, you kind of have a certain obligation to pay him as such.
December 12th, 2013 at 4:11 PM ^
And if they were to offer one coordinator far less than the other, isn't that admitting that they are going after a subpar coach? As a fan, I would take it that way.
December 12th, 2013 at 4:13 PM ^
to be reasonable and certainly drives the current situation, BUT:
is it unreasonable to have more of a performance-based salary?
December 12th, 2013 at 4:32 PM ^
Which seems like a fairly decent chunk of change as far as being a performance-based salary. Without getting too much into the fire/keep Borges debate, I'm not sure many coordinators or ADs that would like more than that because there are simply so many other variables that come into play, including but not limited to: player performance, position coach performance, level of competition, etc.
Take the Big 12 for instance, would be nice being a OC there but would suck being a DC (obviously, you could make performance relative, but that's asking for trouble when people start looking if they are really worth that nation-wide, etc; and then taking performance based on making a bowl game, or winning the conference, or whatever, is just as based on those other factors and the other side of the ball as it is you, so there are issues presented there as well).
December 12th, 2013 at 9:14 PM ^
This is bunk.
If you have to pay someone close to Mattison for the purpose of perception, then go out and hire someone close(r) to Mattison in quality.
And I am sure the fans love those PSL hikes to fund a bad offensive coordinator's huge salary because paying him that supposedly puts on a good public face.
December 12th, 2013 at 4:00 PM ^
December 12th, 2013 at 4:04 PM ^
I'm actually OK with Mattison and Borges being highly paid. While I would rather Borges not be our OC at all, the fact that he is highly paid means that DB is willing to pull out the check book for good coaching talent.
Once we have some correlation between salary and talent, we will be highly competitive. It's much better than being one of the other college football programs that doesn't have the funds or appeal to reel in a top recruiter / coach.
December 12th, 2013 at 4:51 PM ^
it's not like paying borges more/less money affects what we would spend on other parts of the program