OT: Update on Damar Hamlin
The Medical staff at the U - Cincy hospital are giving an update on Damar Hamlin. It appears his neurological functions are intact, which is great news.
The intubation prevents Damar from speaking, but he is able to communicate in writing. This, would seem to be a very good sign.
The medical staff are discussing, in a positive manner, the way the “team and on the field staff” responded.
Wishing Damar a complete recovery.
January 5th, 2023 at 1:56 PM ^
Also read today he's able to hold hands with his loved ones and is responding to motor requests which is wonderful. I know there is ongoing concern with possible lung damage, hopefully nothing that time and the great doctors at UC cant heal.
Good luck Damar. You literally have the entire country pulling for you.
January 5th, 2023 at 2:16 PM ^
Absolutely. There are some great lessons here if we as a country have the wisdom to accept them.
Upon the tragedy, all people of all faiths, races, genders, ages, backgrounds, etc, etc came together to support, pray for, and pull for this young man. There was a collective empathy for Damar that we rarely see on a daily basis anymore.
If we could put the same sort of thoughtful effort towards working together in many aspects of life, I think we'd be in a much better place collectively. Damar proved we still have the capacity to love each other and work together despite all our differences.
January 5th, 2023 at 2:53 PM ^
This is true, except unfortunately for the MAGA dummies who’s immediate priority was to care more about arguing it was a vaccine issue instead of caring about the kid.
January 5th, 2023 at 3:06 PM ^
To be completely objective about that issue, what I saw when I You Tubed it the next day were a lot of people of highly dubious credentials speculating that it was anything else but the vaccine. To be clear, I have no idea what caused this, but there sure were a bunch of self-proclaimed experts declaring precisely what it was without any possible way of knowing it within hours and even minutes after it happened.
January 5th, 2023 at 3:52 PM ^
Not too long ago I watched a video with a detailed explanation of how vaccines work. I don't claim to know much about them myself, but I can tell you that the "experts" never mentioned nanobots and population control.
Just asking questions.....
January 5th, 2023 at 4:32 PM ^
I don’t know about any of that but I do know there are studies being done regarding serious heart related side effects from the Covid vaccine. Even the CDC acknowledges that. If there is an issue I’m sure we can agree that we should all know about it and respond accordingly. That doesn’t seem political to me, or at least I don’t know how it could be.
January 5th, 2023 at 5:07 PM ^
Yes:
https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/vaccines/safety/myocarditis.html
I think RickSnow was referring to these types of sources:
https://twitter.com/DiedSuddenly_
https://twitter.com/charliekirk11/status/1610106783519092741
https://twitter.com/drdrew/status/1610095640163262467
I don't think they're on the same plane as the CDC.
January 5th, 2023 at 5:13 PM ^
I mean, there has been a pretty substantial uptick in on field heart related incidents in athletes in the last couple of years, particularly soccer players in Europe. It isn’t a secret. It is ascertainable by the most basic Google search. Is it related to the vaccine? No clue. The fact that it is happening though is not really subject to debate.
January 5th, 2023 at 5:34 PM ^
"It is ascertainable by the most basic Google search."
Careful. Guess what made the Top Ten here?
https://duckduckgo.com/?t=ffab&q=evidence+that+vaccines+cause+autism&ia=web
This (from way back in 2008 and featuring RFK Jr., who's generally considered a quack):
https://www.ldonline.org/forum/parenting-child-ld-or-adhd/vaccines-really-do-cause-autism-here-proof
Don't forget to think critically.
Clarification: I'm open to the idea that vaccines are behind the rise in on-field cardiac events. Some numbers and references would be helpful. I'm not inclined to trust you otherwise. : )
January 5th, 2023 at 10:49 PM ^
I guess some evidence from you that they are not behind such a spike would be helpful as well.
January 6th, 2023 at 6:39 AM ^
Science doesn't work like that. You're obliquely suggesting that vaccines are behind the spike and the recent NFL incident. You'd need to provide some evidence.
I can't prove that the sun isn't powered by a trillion Rayovac 9V batteries.
January 6th, 2023 at 9:33 AM ^
Ok, so we agree that neither of us can prove or disprove that about the sun, that’s a starting point.
As to the vaccine, Statistical evidence has shown an increase in heart related issues, specifically myocarditis, among young, healthy, predominantly male subjects after the Covid 19 vaccine, particularly the second dose.
Can you prove the spike is not related to the vaccine? Or is the trick to just keep raising the burden of proof so high that it can never be proven? Do I need testimony from the vaccine? How does this new science work exactly?
January 6th, 2023 at 3:31 AM ^
Many viruses, including those that cause the common cold (adenoviruses) and COVID-19 (SARS-CoV-2 virus), are linked to myocarditis and other forms of heart disease. Given the enormous number of people who've had COVID-19 in the past three years, it isn't surprising that more cases of heart disease are being reported among athletes.
January 5th, 2023 at 5:23 PM ^
It seems to me it's political not in the right/left, Rep/Dem sense of the inside baseball the media love to stoke and track, but political in a more fundamental sense: the well documented erosion of trust in public institutions that recent events have brought forth. That's a challenge to the credibility of the system that is political at its core. But now we are discussing politics, so. . . . Nevertheless, that's one way it could be political.
January 5th, 2023 at 3:27 PM ^
no politics. also, insanely bad take
January 5th, 2023 at 3:41 PM ^
pretty dumb take. there are plenty of non-MAGA people who question the safety/efficacy of vaccines
January 5th, 2023 at 4:34 PM ^
he's part of the problem and likely cannot be convinced his side ever does anything wrong, and the other side is "evil" no matter what they do.
he's one of those people
January 5th, 2023 at 4:45 PM ^
He's literally calling out a behavior and you're labeling him with in-group out-group tendencies. It's ok to judge people who do things that are wrong and to not celebrate them when they do wrong.
January 5th, 2023 at 4:53 PM ^
No. It's ok to disagree with someone stance on a subject, but judging someone's character because they don't like vaccines is a bridge to far.
Full disclosure: I'm pro-vax, and vaxxed to the max
January 5th, 2023 at 5:05 PM ^
He is not “calling out a behavior,” he is treating a belief as a behavior.
January 5th, 2023 at 5:01 PM ^
No there aren't.
January 5th, 2023 at 3:58 PM ^
What.the.fuck
January 5th, 2023 at 3:35 PM ^
"If we could put the same sort of thoughtful effort towards working together in many aspects of life, I think we'd be in a much better place collectively."
The singular goal of almost all American politicians is to prevent this from happening. It is the largest threat to their power, and they know it.
January 5th, 2023 at 3:52 PM ^
I was listening to Rich Eisen today and apparently Demar asked the doctor if the Bills won the game and the doctor replied yes....you won in the game of life. So touching and heartwarming to see he's getting better.
It sure says a lot about him that one of his first concerns is how his team did, this is an amazing story that will induce some Hollywood movie(s) for sure.
January 5th, 2023 at 3:12 PM ^
After working in an ICU for 5 years, seeing anoxic injuries for years I had a lot of concerns. But it happened in the best of circumstances, witnessed with a good number of competent staff on hand. It's good to hear he's doing well.
And the lung damage could either be a lung contusion from the hit or possibly from compressions/ventilation after. He's should be healthy enough his ribs shouldn't snap likes straw, fortunately.
January 5th, 2023 at 3:33 PM ^
Without getting myself into a HIPPA violation I will just say I know someone who is aware of the situation first hand. Damar had nine minutes of VERY agressive CPR performed on the field so your initial speculation as the cause of the lung distress is most likely correct.
And the vent did nothing to help matters afterwards that's for sure.
January 5th, 2023 at 3:46 PM ^
CPR done correctly is almost always aggressive. If you’re not trying to break ribs it’s almost too weak.
January 5th, 2023 at 3:49 PM ^
Under 50 you can do good cpr without tearing a person up. But yeah, good cpr is not gentle.
January 5th, 2023 at 3:52 PM ^
And aspiration, I guess. Overinflate the stomach and you have aspiration pneumonia, could be some of his issue
January 5th, 2023 at 7:21 PM ^
A significant number of people develop ARDS after cardiac arrest as well.
January 5th, 2023 at 1:56 PM ^
Thanks for sharing some positive news on this. Hopefully, he continues toward a full recovery.
January 5th, 2023 at 1:57 PM ^
This is great news!
January 5th, 2023 at 1:57 PM ^
Scary situation for sure. I wonder if it was commotio cordis or if he just had a previously undiagnosed structural heart issue.
It reminded me of the soccer player, Christian Eriksen that had a cardiac arrest during a match a few years ago.
January 5th, 2023 at 4:01 PM ^
You would have to think it's commotio cordis. I'm sure he's getting the work up for everything, soon
January 5th, 2023 at 4:04 PM ^
Commotio cordis is the only thing I've heard speculated (other than the moronic iTs tHe vAcCiNe) But since the doctors haven't said, it's speculation. But it makes the most sense. It was the first thing I thought of- I knew of a softball player that this happened to a few years back. I'm glad he's making progress-- he's so young, even if he never plays another down of football he has his whole life in front of him.
January 5th, 2023 at 4:07 PM ^
You would have to think it's commotio cordis. I'm sure he's getting the work up for everything, soon
January 5th, 2023 at 1:57 PM ^
Pretty remarkable if you review the stats on people who survive what he went through!
January 5th, 2023 at 2:02 PM ^
Coley Harvey reporting he asked, "who won the game?".
Edit* Not gonna lie, when I heard the news this morning he had opened his eyes I was a little verklempt. This is the only news I've been really waiting to hear. Can't imagine how the family, team and the organization felt hearing that. Granted he's not out of the woods yet, this has to feel so, so good for them.
January 5th, 2023 at 2:19 PM ^
I had to look up verklempt. Thanks! I figured this might be it.
January 5th, 2023 at 2:34 PM ^
Anyone who watched SNL in the 90s knows this word.
January 5th, 2023 at 2:48 PM ^
That's exactly where I learned it.
January 5th, 2023 at 3:41 PM ^
Talk amongst yourselves
January 5th, 2023 at 2:25 PM ^
Twitch, as you point out - “He’s still not out of the woods yet” - is accurate and a paraphrase of what the U-C medical staff presented.
He’s still not breathing on his own - I’m not a physician, but assume, the intubation supports his breathing.
For me, Damar’s ability to “write” responses to the questions he was being asked addressed the biggest concern I had - which was his neurological function. He can hear what is being asked, he comprehends it, and has both cognitive and neurological function to respond.
Wishing his recovery continues - be it “slowly and surely”, or “a bit quicker”. Great news…
January 5th, 2023 at 2:03 PM ^
Great news. Here's to continued progress and a complete recovery.
January 5th, 2023 at 2:09 PM ^
Nothing short of a miracle.....
Incredible news!
January 5th, 2023 at 2:12 PM ^
Just saw this, so great to hear. I lived in Buffalo for a time, just a couple miles down the road from the stadium and became a big Bills fan while living there. Such a crazy thing to happen, I know the fans and team are sending much love and prayer his way, as well as seemingly the whole country. Go Bills and go Damar!
January 5th, 2023 at 2:14 PM ^
That is very positive news!!! Excellent!!
January 5th, 2023 at 2:18 PM ^
This is great. Hopefully it continues. I normally hate it when people record and post private moments, but I hope they record his reaction when he is recovered enough and someone tells him to check out his toy raising gofundme that had $2500 in before the game.
January 5th, 2023 at 3:47 PM ^
I keep thinking about this too. He could end up working on something that has a real and long-lasting community impact, much more than he could have imagined. A beautiful, human moment.