SituationSoap

January 14th, 2014 at 2:51 PM ^

No, it's Jim Tressel's cold -- he's got a nose thing going on, and when it leaves, it's planning on joining the Lions' coaching staff.

 

Which is saying something. I'm pretty sure Jim Tressel's cold would go 8-4 in the AAC next year.

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jackw8542

January 14th, 2014 at 1:25 PM ^

Yes.  It would tick off that many Lions fans.  In fact, it would almost undoubtedly make me not care any longer about - even root against - a team that I have followed for over 50 years.  Maybe it would be Mr. Ford's way of putting us out of our misery.

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DK81

January 14th, 2014 at 1:27 PM ^

Petrino and Tress were totally different situations. Also Jim's vilolations were against the NCAA not the NFL. That being said, I don't think Jim would be a good offensive coordinator but it has nothing to do with his personal life.

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MGoCombs

January 14th, 2014 at 1:35 PM ^

It's the NFL. If you want to root for a team with absolute moral high ground, then look elsewhere. And Tressel broke the rules in the NCAA but I don't recall him doing anything patently immoral. I wouldn't call it selling my soul to want him as a coach if he can do the job.

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93Grad

January 14th, 2014 at 3:19 PM ^

He repeatedly lied and fostered a culture of win at all costs while hypocritically claiming to be a near saint. I guess you can debate whether that constitutes immorality but it certainly shows his true character is far from what he tried to portray publicly. You can also debate whether such character traits are good bad or irrelevant to an NFL coaching position but I as a Lions fan would hate having him as a coach because I think he is lying POS and it would cause me to no longer be a Lions can regardless of his coaching ability.

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MGoCombs

January 14th, 2014 at 3:45 PM ^

I sincerely appreciate and respect your point, but in the NFL I am alright with a "win at all costs" mentality.* I'm not saying I idealize it, or seek it in the character of a coach, but I'm not immediately offended by it the way that I am in the NCAA, where many of these kids are looking for a role model or as the NCAA would put it, "going pro in something other than sports." I just don't think his behavior at OSU reflects on his ability to be a coach in the NFL, especially as a coordinator. You might question his leadership qualities, but I don't particularly care about his "character" unless he directly and intentionally harmed innocent people, which I am just not remembering.

*[barring some seriously egregious things]

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mh277907

January 14th, 2014 at 1:36 PM ^

Because in the grand scheme of things I don't think what Tressel did should define his character for the rest of his life? If I were taller, maybe I could ride a higher horse like the one you straddle. He broke the rules. Hypocritical rules, but still rules and he lost his job. Now it is considered selling your soul for giving a guy a second chance? Not everyone is perfect like you, Kanye.

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Yeezus

January 14th, 2014 at 2:05 PM ^

Another shitty argument from you, buckeye TROLL.

Maybe you could argue that hiring Tressel would be akin to spending a high draft pick on a former Ohio State player with lots of talent but character issues.  Still, as a coach you have much more 'reach' and responsibility over the team than one player (there are what - 10 coaches and 55+ players?).  So I think that argument fails.  

No way you could argue that "oh well let's just stay away from OSU altogether if we aren't willing to hire the Sweater Vest!" - that's a BS conclusion drawn by a simple mind. 

 

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teldar

January 14th, 2014 at 7:31 PM ^

The man literally WROTE A BOOK about DOING THINGS THE RIGHT WAY. While he was breaking the rules of the governing body under which he worked.

He's a liar. He lied. A LOT. And he was caught. Repeatedly, unless you're a Buckeye fan. I think the things he did at OSU SHOULD stay with him for his life. The liar.

 

Also, I'm not a fan of this because I don't know that he's an offensive genius or a defensive genius. The Lions need someone who can straighten stuff out as a coordinator, and to tell you the truth, just because he was a great HC, doesn't mean he's going to make a great coordinator.

 

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TheNema

January 14th, 2014 at 6:13 PM ^

I'm no Tressel fan myself, but you need to get out of your college football bubble if you think turning a blind eye to cars and tattoos makes you someone who can't be supported without "SELLING YOUR SOUL."

Get a grip and go read about some real problems in the world.

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MGoCombs

January 14th, 2014 at 1:37 PM ^

I thought the same. This could save the hire of Caldwell for me. The Lions would have a good football mind at OC who is unproven at this level, but has potential upside. It's better than another stale OC hire that pretty much guarantees failure-mediocrity.

Edit: Fixed some strong wording.

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JHendo

January 14th, 2014 at 1:02 PM ^

Well, that seems like a pretty pointless, assumptive article that is using a baseless and generic tweet as a way to get page clicks...Yeah, the guy had an extremely insignifcant one season role with Caldwell, and Tressel likes the guy.  That doesn't really mean much.

While were at it, we can go through every single coach who has had any association with Caldwell in the past and say "don't be surprised to see so-and-so in Detroit!"

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LSAClassOf2000

January 14th, 2014 at 1:17 PM ^

The show cause penalty on Tressel stands until basically Christmas 2016, or somewhere around the holiday. If he were to be hired before then by an NCAA member, I believe the deal was that he would be automatically suspended for five games and not allowed to coach in any postseason game should the team in question reach the postseason. 

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Reader71

January 14th, 2014 at 1:07 PM ^

I have a ton of respect for Tressel as a head coach. He's great at setting up his system and managing a team and staff. But as an offensive coordinator? That's a bit odd to me. His teams were built on defense and a very vanilla offense. He had states numerous times that the most important play in football is the punt. That's a great way to think as the head man, but not an OC. Good luck, Lions. You actually make my Jets look like a competent organization.

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Reader71

January 14th, 2014 at 7:44 PM ^

I think you're equating spread principles with chocolate and strawberry. His spreads were about as vanilla as they come. A power blocking scheme coupled with very, very rudimentary passing concepts. His offensive coordinator was Jim Bollman. He moved to a gun based, multiple WR offense, but I didn't see any sophistication to it. I don't know how well that translates to the NFL.

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Reader71

January 14th, 2014 at 7:47 PM ^

With this I agree. But was he the play caller? The one gripe I had with his offenses (and Michigan's inability to stop them) was actually predictability. He ran a QB draw out of an empty backfield on seemingly every 2-point conversion or critical 3rd and medium-to-short.

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xxxxNateDaGreat

January 14th, 2014 at 1:19 PM ^

This reeks of click whoring. Say what you want about his role in the OSU sanctions, but bottom line is Tressel's approach doesn't fit with the Lions personnel. This is a shotgun offense through and through. Also, correct me if I am wrong but wasn't OSU's decade of success built mostly off of their usually fantastic defense?

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BluByYou

January 14th, 2014 at 1:30 PM ^

from the players' perspective is the free tats.  

Aside from that, do we really need another reason to not like the Lions?

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