OT: Recommended Freshman classes

Submitted by Zoltanrules on

My daughter is going to UM orientation next week! She'll have to take Calc 1 and  some Freshman English seminar (this is new to me). Maybe intro Chem or third term Spanish depending on her placement tests?

Anyway I was wondering if the easy, interesting, freshman electives/fourth classes were still the same? Cultural Anthro with Conrad Kottak was a great one back in the day. Some of my friends took PSych (111?)  AStronomy 101 was another good one back then.

Anyone have any good recommendations for classes/profs for a first year student who really doesn't know what she wants to be just yet?

Some of the Freshman writing seminars 124 or 125?  seem way out there but I'm not going to judge. Any good/interesting sections to recommend?

 I have bad dreams of an orientation counselor talking her into String Theory taught by an unintelligible foreign TA. Maybe some flashbacks to some trying Engin School days.

Thanks in advance for any input.

CarrIsMyHomeboy

June 20th, 2015 at 11:38 PM ^

I remember loving argumentative writing as a junior and wishing I had taken it as a freshman. It's relevant to every field, and beyond coursework, life in Ann Arbor can often seem like a ceaseless string of glorious debates.

If taken seriously, with the right mix of competitiveness and open-mindedness, courses like that prepare a person to succeed at anything.



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BornSinner

June 20th, 2015 at 11:40 PM ^

If she's planning on Ross... then Calc I, Econ 101/102, English, Statistics + w/e other easy intro courses there are to get her above a 3.5 on the year. 

Premed then Gen Chem + lab, Statistics, Intro Bio lab, Calc I (take Calc II somewhere else easy), Animal Phys 2nd semester (if she has AP Bio credit; if not then regular Bio 171? I think is the #), + Spanish and w/e else is left. 

 

Anthro and Psych are 2 easy As generally speaking. 

BornSinner

June 21st, 2015 at 1:00 AM ^

Hardest 3 classes I named there are just Calc II, Calc I and Econ 101 imo. 

I took all of em except Calc II, which is a lot harder at Michigan than other schools for some reason. So I took that over the summer somewhere else after hearing nightmares from my friends. 

Most people end up taking those classes too due to LSA's gen ed requirements. 

MGoPoe

June 21st, 2015 at 1:00 PM ^

Sadly iirc my freshman year was his last teaching that course.  Class gave a standing ovation after his first and last lecture.  He had great guest profs come and teach too.  I can't recall his name but I think he's still with the performing arts program, some guy gave the best lecture on Dante's divine trilogy.  So involved and knowledgeable, wish I could remember his name.  I went to Cameron's office hours after the lecture and asked about him and Cameron said verbatim "I almost failed out of school because he (the guest lecturer) made me do so much coke with him".   Such a great class.

Gentleman Squirrels

June 20th, 2015 at 11:48 PM ^

I took Psych 111 as my fourth class in Freshman year. Absolute joke. The topics are fairly interesting, and the class is so easy (rarely paid attention and ended up doing fine). If she's doing pre-med, she has to take psych anyway so I'd recommend it. It's a good, easy class to ease into college life. General advice on freshman year: take it slow. It takes a little bit to get used to everything in college so it's okay if you're not loading up 17 credits a semester then. 

Real Tackles Wear 77

June 20th, 2015 at 11:50 PM ^

Most of the professors at UM that were particularly memorable and enjoyable were from my upper level classes, so my recommendation would just be to take things that look really interesting and to step outside her comfort zone a little. With all the standard requirements, freshman year can be a little monotonous so it's best to have a couple of classes that mix it up

ghostofhoke

June 20th, 2015 at 11:56 PM ^

Holy crap. Here's a recco, don't be a helicopter parent.She's smart, she got in to U of M, let her figure it out. You're not helping even if you have the best of intentions.



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WolvinLA2

June 21st, 2015 at 12:05 AM ^

Hats ridiculous. He's not being a helicopter parent. Unless he's going to force his daughter to take one of these classes, it just sounds like he's trying to get input from people who have been there. There were things I learned about classes and other stuff at Michigan in my second or third year and it would have been nice to know earlier on.

Zoltanrules

June 21st, 2015 at 12:20 AM ^

but there is some good advice here that she should consider and never know about next week when she has to pick classes. Options are good. In my case, Cult Anthro was a first semester class I really enjoyed and helped the old GPA. I only knew about it because from a UM friend who was a year older gave me a tip.

One day when you are an M dad and footing a good part of the bill you'll be more sympathetic ; )

ghostofhoke

June 21st, 2015 at 12:56 AM ^

I totally get where you're coming from and I remember freshman orientation nearly 20 years ago and what a stupid process it was selecting classes you have very little insight on but all I'm saying is it's a fine line between helping provide some info and being one of the parents that were on the phone with their kids during orientation talking about what classes they should be taking. I'm not asserting that would be you, I'm just saying you should be keenly aware. I work with a lot of high school kids, counselors and teachers--this is not a trivial thing, especially at competitive schools.



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Wendyk5

June 21st, 2015 at 7:05 AM ^

There's a good book on this subject, "How To Raise an Adult" by Julie Lythcott-Haims, I believe. She was a Dean of Students at Stanford for 10 years and has a lot of experience dealing with parents who are too involved in their kids' lives. It scared the bejesus out of me. Now I don't even talk to my kids for fear of screwing them up. Kidding. But it is eye opening and helps you check yourself if your tendency is to do too much for them. 

Lampuki22

June 21st, 2015 at 9:09 AM ^

I'm sure it's great, but do you reallly need to read an entire book on this? Here's what I do with my kids:  If my parents born pre-WWII weren't involved in it, I stay away.    The only thing I do is coach one of my kids in sports because I enjoy it and I am careful not to treat him any differently.  I'm sure I make mistakes but they aren't massive. 

I can't imagine my parents picking classes for me, helping me with my home work, helping me get jobs, picking my clothes and friends, driving me around.  When these get to school or the workplace they are lost.  I'm sure you can make a book out of that, but it's common sense.    

Wendyk5

June 21st, 2015 at 1:10 PM ^

I actually do need to read a book on this. My parents weren't great role models and so I seek out information where I can get it. Such is life. Either you have really good role models, or you cobble together information to make sense of something. I had to do the latter. 

JOHNNAVARREISMYHERO

June 21st, 2015 at 12:43 AM ^

Half semester GEO science classes are pretty cool.   They are fun and interesting, but do require some hard and focused studying to get an A.

 

 

DrewGOBLUE

June 21st, 2015 at 12:47 AM ^

Ideally no 8:00 or even 9:00 AM classes. Starting early almost always ends up being worse than expected for freshmen.

Also, should try for a schedule without too many gaps, especially if living on North Campus. This could be more personal preference, but I found it annoying to have just 2-3 hours of class time spread out from like 10:00-6:00.