You seem like a BBQ guy - thinking of getting my parents a pellet grill for Christmas. Can I go wrong with a Traeger 575? They don't need a ton of space since it's only them.
Thanks, it's hard to know which online "ratings" sources to trust since companies these days will just make up fake sites to pump up their own reviews. The mattress industry is notorious for that.
MGoCue, any thoughts on pellets? Love my traeger, but the traeger pellets seem to leave a lot to be desired. I tried Lumber Jack pellets the other day and thought they were a significant step up.
Sorry Sooner, but I can’t really speak to that. I only know what my friends have told me about theirs and what I’ve read. And that’s not much on the actual fuel.
I’m kind of old school and haven’t purchased a pellet smoker yet. Maybe next spring. With a toddler running around now, I’m quite intrigued by the ease of use.
I read the same reviews... But I guess you have to decide what you want from an average priced grill at $500 (can be easily found now for $300). Pros: It's a charcoal smoker/grill with a digital controller (150° - 700°) that's spot on; uses whatever wood flavor you like; easy maintenance. Cons: it's not made of high end materials (hence the low cost).
It's a better smoker than it is a grill, but it's pretty good at being a grill. I don't know what you bought, but at $300 (sale prices easily found) I'll replace the thing every few years if it rusts out because I leave it outside. It's far easier than managing a charcoal (or wood) fire, and gives a lot more smoke flavor than pellets.
I have the same smoker, and it's been a godsend! I love the flexibility of putting wood chunks or splits in the ash bin or the main coal chute. So much easier than an offset, but with most of the great flaver.
Thanks for the laugh! On a related note, my wife is a pharmacist and when she was interning she worked at the hospital at University of Toledo. One day, she came in and hilariously found a 6 pack of Busch Light in the fridge - yes, it has actually been prescribed by a doctor for a patient. Maybe more partying happens than we think?
I didn't want to tell a lot of people so keep it on DL, but we're having a kegger behind the barn off Tallahassee Road tomorrow night. Bring some girls.
why are none of the governors making large retailers close their doors from Wed. night thru Sunday? There will be far bigger crowds at Best Buy, WalMart, Target, Kohls, etc, etc, etc.... than there will be at a bar tomorrow evening.
if you want to support bar staff, get your drinks to go and tip big. in case you haven't heard, there's a bit of a sickness going around and indoor venues are the optimal way to spread it.
We have entered this, to use your word, "absurd" stage where some Government leaders seem to want to "one-up" each other in terms of who can come up with a regulation that showsthey are fighting CoronaVirus the hardest. Witness the Pennsylvania Governor and banning alcohol sales on the day before Thanksgiving.
That rule/regulation will have minimal incremental impact, of course. But it does make headlines.
For the likes of the Pennsylvania Governor and others, though, this won't last forever. They are in the waning moments of their relevance. They will milk the hysteria for all they can.
To be clear, the "hysteria" is not about the virus.
The "hysteria" is the fairly common belief "that rules and regulations will get us out of this situation of the virus being widespread. Despite us being in this situation after 8 months of rules and regulations."
The virus is going to virus. Rules such as "no alcohol sales the night before Thanksgiving, even in a Commonwealth of Pennsylvania 6-pack shop" will not have any impact upon that.
Our current hysteria is in trusting government and authority over "we the people."
Our current hysteria is in thinking that authoritarianism is a better system than one that focuses on freedom and liberty.
And yet in countries where they've followed some simple regulations from their government, which I'm not arguing cutting sales at 5 PM is, they've handled it much better than here.
Here, "we the people" keep hosting super spreader events that end up infecting and killing people who weren't even in attendance.
The tyranny you're should be worried about is the tyranny of stupidity. The stupidity to think that your friend on facebook has an opinion as valuable as that of the epidemiologists and policy professionals desperately trying to slow the spread of a deadly virus.
"We the people" includes an not-insignificant number of people who think the upper echelons of Hollywood and the Democratic party are Satanists who eat babies. And the Venn Diagram of those people and anti-maskers isn't all that far from a perfect circle.
There will always be stupid people. They cannot be eliminated.
There, however, does not need to always be authoritarians in leadership positions. They can be removed from office and effectively eliminated.
Every leader in 2020 who has either (1) decided that his/her branch of government is the only authority and does not need to work with another branch of government, (2) issued rules and regulations that have no incremental effect on reducing CoronaVirus spread is an authoritarian, or (3) violated their own CoronaVirus rules and regulations is an authoritarian leader.
They should all be removed from office and effectively eliminated in future years.
Whitmer falls in group 1. Wolf in group 2. Newsom in group 3. They aren't the only members of those groups, but they are among the most prominent.
Lmao did you seriously just call public health measures "authoritarianism?" I'd love to know what your opinion on the current president trying to subvert democracy, police around the country being almost immune to punishment, and federal agents kidnapping protesters if you think public health measures are "authoritarianism."
You are exhibit 1A for the fact that stupid people can’t be eliminated or reasoned with. You’re also exhibit 1A for the fact that the dumber the person making the point, the longer the post. Just go the fuck away you truther piece of shit.
Man, I must have slept through that part of government class that equated freedom and liberty with selfish assholes with no common sense or sense of community.
It’s not part of history class, but most definitely is a massive chunk of America / American history.
In general, the US population favors liberty and freedom over anything else .... our country was born in revolution and saying “fuck off” to the powers that be. People have the liberty and freedom to believe what liberty and freedom means to them. Unfortunately to many that means “I do what I want and everyone and everything else be damned” with total disregard for their actions.
I never doubted for one second that the US was going to lead the world in Coronavirus cases. Did you? Did you seriously believe that US citizens would voluntarily and happily agree to the kinds of lockdowns needed to prevent widespread viral transmission?
Probably a few tenths lower than 99.9%, but your point remains.
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More on the "hysteria" front:
Back in August, there was an article written by Dennis Dodd that got a lot of play here. A University of Illinois computer scientist predicted 3-7 FBS football players would die of CoronaVirus, if FBS college football was played in 2020.
Now, here we are in late November. That prediction is going to prove to be 100% wrong.
But, yes --- wow, was there a lot of hysteria about that back in August. Including here. That hysteria was completely unfounded.
ypsituckyboy
November 24th, 2020 at 10:11 AM ^
The hospital
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M Go Cue
November 24th, 2020 at 10:12 AM ^
Can you add beer to a TPN?
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ypsituckyboy
November 24th, 2020 at 10:14 AM ^
You seem like a BBQ guy - thinking of getting my parents a pellet grill for Christmas. Can I go wrong with a Traeger 575? They don't need a ton of space since it's only them.
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M Go Cue
November 24th, 2020 at 10:20 AM ^
Yeah, that’s totally a good option. Traeger makes a solid, easy to use product.
Green Mountain makes good pellet smokers too and you should be able to find some good deals right now. Good deals everywhere this time of year!
Here’s a handy dandy guide if you’d like to dig in a little more at your options.
https://amazingribs.com/ratings-reviews-search?field_manufacturer_target_id=All&field_prod_function_tid%5B%5D=2&field_fuel_tid%5B%5D=3
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ypsituckyboy
November 24th, 2020 at 10:23 AM ^
Thanks, it's hard to know which online "ratings" sources to trust since companies these days will just make up fake sites to pump up their own reviews. The mattress industry is notorious for that.
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M Go Cue
November 24th, 2020 at 10:25 AM ^
You bet. Amazing Ribs has legit ratings. You can also scroll to the bottom to filter by size, price, fuel, etc.
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1VaBlue1
November 24th, 2020 at 10:36 AM ^
A lot of good recipes can be found at the place, too...
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Mi Sooner
November 24th, 2020 at 11:06 AM ^
MGoCue, any thoughts on pellets? Love my traeger, but the traeger pellets seem to leave a lot to be desired. I tried Lumber Jack pellets the other day and thought they were a significant step up.
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M Go Cue
November 24th, 2020 at 11:18 AM ^
Sorry Sooner, but I can’t really speak to that. I only know what my friends have told me about theirs and what I’ve read. And that’s not much on the actual fuel.
I’m kind of old school and haven’t purchased a pellet smoker yet. Maybe next spring. With a toddler running around now, I’m quite intrigued by the ease of use.
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lilpenny1316
November 24th, 2020 at 12:29 PM ^
Have a subscription to Amazing Ribs. My go-to source when I'm smoker shopping.
Plus, I started putting my steaks in cooler after grilling, instead of letting it sit in the open to rest, and my world is completely different now.
I love that site.
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hillbillyblue
November 24th, 2020 at 4:00 PM ^
You definitely can’t go wrong with a traeger. I have one and love it.
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switch26
November 24th, 2020 at 10:48 AM ^
Pellet smokers do not give the best smoky flavor.
I got the masterbuilt 560 and its amazing. A gravity fed charcoal smoker.
Much better flavor than anything I've had from a pellet smoker.
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Eat Your Wheatlies
November 24th, 2020 at 11:01 AM ^
I was interested, but their website has several recent, bad reviews. Glad it's working for you, but I can't risk it with that type of feedback.
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1VaBlue1
November 24th, 2020 at 12:14 PM ^
I read the same reviews... But I guess you have to decide what you want from an average priced grill at $500 (can be easily found now for $300). Pros: It's a charcoal smoker/grill with a digital controller (150° - 700°) that's spot on; uses whatever wood flavor you like; easy maintenance. Cons: it's not made of high end materials (hence the low cost).
It's a better smoker than it is a grill, but it's pretty good at being a grill. I don't know what you bought, but at $300 (sale prices easily found) I'll replace the thing every few years if it rusts out because I leave it outside. It's far easier than managing a charcoal (or wood) fire, and gives a lot more smoke flavor than pellets.
//end of advertisement//
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1VaBlue1
November 24th, 2020 at 12:03 PM ^
I have the same smoker, and it's been a godsend! I love the flexibility of putting wood chunks or splits in the ash bin or the main coal chute. So much easier than an offset, but with most of the great flaver.
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Brian Griese
November 24th, 2020 at 12:35 PM ^
Thanks for the laugh! On a related note, my wife is a pharmacist and when she was interning she worked at the hospital at University of Toledo. One day, she came in and hilariously found a 6 pack of Busch Light in the fridge - yes, it has actually been prescribed by a doctor for a patient. Maybe more partying happens than we think?
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M Go Cue
November 24th, 2020 at 4:30 PM ^
Happy to provide a laugh BG! I work in pharmacy informatics and my wife rolls her eyes often at the things we find hilarious.
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UNCWolverine
November 24th, 2020 at 10:11 AM ^
I didn't want to tell a lot of people so keep it on DL, but we're having a kegger behind the barn off Tallahassee Road tomorrow night. Bring some girls.
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hillbillyblue
November 24th, 2020 at 4:02 PM ^
All the girls are coming to my party at the moon tower.
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darkstar
November 24th, 2020 at 10:20 AM ^
Garages and driveways are going be packed so get there early
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M and M Boys
November 24th, 2020 at 11:44 AM ^
Detroit Lions Coaches are hosting a pep rally with free face masks, no coverage charge and zero rules or entertainment......
Multiple Uhaul locations are hosting near their homes.........
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Booted Blue in PA
November 24th, 2020 at 1:29 PM ^
why are none of the governors making large retailers close their doors from Wed. night thru Sunday? There will be far bigger crowds at Best Buy, WalMart, Target, Kohls, etc, etc, etc.... than there will be at a bar tomorrow evening.
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lbpeley
November 24th, 2020 at 2:38 PM ^
Money talks but they still have to keep their foot on the necks of the common folk.
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Booted Blue in PA
November 24th, 2020 at 4:48 PM ^
so it really isn't about public safety and healthcare concerns?..... gtfo!
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Harbaugh's Lef…
November 24th, 2020 at 10:20 AM ^
Beer bust at the moon tower.
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Blau
November 24th, 2020 at 10:25 AM ^
My avatar of 6 years says alright, alright, alright.
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The Baughz
November 24th, 2020 at 10:45 AM ^
I was coming here hoping for a Dazed and Confused reference. +1.
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4godkingandwol…
November 24th, 2020 at 11:18 AM ^
I only logged in to do two things. Write this comment and +1 you. Looks like I’m almost done with the comment.
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Hail-Storm
November 24th, 2020 at 1:05 PM ^
Did you upvote him?
You'd be a lot cooler if you did.
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IheartMichigan
November 24th, 2020 at 1:33 PM ^
somebodies smoking some reefer
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Booted Blue in PA
November 24th, 2020 at 10:20 AM ^
PA bars have to stop serving alcohol at 5:00 and must close at 6:00. We're all going to the bar at noon. #barstaffmatters
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Broken Brilliance
November 24th, 2020 at 10:59 AM ^
It must only spread after six and only when you aren't seated...follow "the science"
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lbpeley
November 24th, 2020 at 11:38 AM ^
Stop it with your logic already!
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andrewG
November 24th, 2020 at 11:46 AM ^
if you want to support bar staff, get your drinks to go and tip big. in case you haven't heard, there's a bit of a sickness going around and indoor venues are the optimal way to spread it.
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samdrussBLUE
November 24th, 2020 at 10:21 AM ^
OTFU
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Damn straight
November 24th, 2020 at 10:21 AM ^
The absurdity continues.
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NittanyFan
November 24th, 2020 at 11:41 AM ^
We have entered this, to use your word, "absurd" stage where some Government leaders seem to want to "one-up" each other in terms of who can come up with a regulation that shows they are fighting CoronaVirus the hardest. Witness the Pennsylvania Governor and banning alcohol sales on the day before Thanksgiving.
That rule/regulation will have minimal incremental impact, of course. But it does make headlines.
For the likes of the Pennsylvania Governor and others, though, this won't last forever. They are in the waning moments of their relevance. They will milk the hysteria for all they can.
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Shop Smart Sho…
November 24th, 2020 at 11:47 AM ^
Hysteria?
There's that sociopathic mindset we've come to expect.
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NittanyFan
November 24th, 2020 at 11:57 AM ^
To be clear, the "hysteria" is not about the virus.
The "hysteria" is the fairly common belief "that rules and regulations will get us out of this situation of the virus being widespread. Despite us being in this situation after 8 months of rules and regulations."
The virus is going to virus. Rules such as "no alcohol sales the night before Thanksgiving, even in a Commonwealth of Pennsylvania 6-pack shop" will not have any impact upon that.
Our current hysteria is in trusting government and authority over "we the people."
Our current hysteria is in thinking that authoritarianism is a better system than one that focuses on freedom and liberty.
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Shop Smart Sho…
November 24th, 2020 at 12:16 PM ^
And yet in countries where they've followed some simple regulations from their government, which I'm not arguing cutting sales at 5 PM is, they've handled it much better than here.
Here, "we the people" keep hosting super spreader events that end up infecting and killing people who weren't even in attendance.
The tyranny you're should be worried about is the tyranny of stupidity. The stupidity to think that your friend on facebook has an opinion as valuable as that of the epidemiologists and policy professionals desperately trying to slow the spread of a deadly virus.
"We the people" includes an not-insignificant number of people who think the upper echelons of Hollywood and the Democratic party are Satanists who eat babies. And the Venn Diagram of those people and anti-maskers isn't all that far from a perfect circle.
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NittanyFan
November 24th, 2020 at 12:26 PM ^
There will always be stupid people. They cannot be eliminated.
There, however, does not need to always be authoritarians in leadership positions. They can be removed from office and effectively eliminated.
Every leader in 2020 who has either (1) decided that his/her branch of government is the only authority and does not need to work with another branch of government, (2) issued rules and regulations that have no incremental effect on reducing CoronaVirus spread is an authoritarian, or (3) violated their own CoronaVirus rules and regulations is an authoritarian leader.
They should all be removed from office and effectively eliminated in future years.
Whitmer falls in group 1. Wolf in group 2. Newsom in group 3. They aren't the only members of those groups, but they are among the most prominent.
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Shop Smart Sho…
November 24th, 2020 at 12:28 PM ^
Your understanding of the American political system as it works today is very limited.
You also don't know what authoritarian means.
Please go away.
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njvictor
November 24th, 2020 at 1:10 PM ^
Lmao did you seriously just call public health measures "authoritarianism?" I'd love to know what your opinion on the current president trying to subvert democracy, police around the country being almost immune to punishment, and federal agents kidnapping protesters if you think public health measures are "authoritarianism."
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DetroitBlue
November 24th, 2020 at 1:23 PM ^
You are exhibit 1A for the fact that stupid people can’t be eliminated or reasoned with. You’re also exhibit 1A for the fact that the dumber the person making the point, the longer the post. Just go the fuck away you truther piece of shit.
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mooseman
November 24th, 2020 at 12:32 PM ^
Man, I must have slept through that part of government class that equated freedom and liberty with selfish assholes with no common sense or sense of community.
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drjaws
November 24th, 2020 at 12:44 PM ^
It’s not part of history class, but most definitely is a massive chunk of America / American history.
In general, the US population favors liberty and freedom over anything else .... our country was born in revolution and saying “fuck off” to the powers that be. People have the liberty and freedom to believe what liberty and freedom means to them. Unfortunately to many that means “I do what I want and everyone and everything else be damned” with total disregard for their actions.
I never doubted for one second that the US was going to lead the world in Coronavirus cases. Did you? Did you seriously believe that US citizens would voluntarily and happily agree to the kinds of lockdowns needed to prevent widespread viral transmission?
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Sam1863
November 24th, 2020 at 3:16 PM ^
It was in that section where Patrick Henry said, "Give me liberty so I can not give a shit about anyone else."
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bronxblue
November 24th, 2020 at 1:51 PM ^
Please send an ambulance to my house, my eyes rolled so far back into my skull I can't see.
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blizzardo
November 24th, 2020 at 12:07 PM ^
Actually, it's the perfect word to describe something that 99.9 % of people will survive
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NittanyFan
November 24th, 2020 at 12:14 PM ^
Probably a few tenths lower than 99.9%, but your point remains.
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More on the "hysteria" front:
Back in August, there was an article written by Dennis Dodd that got a lot of play here. A University of Illinois computer scientist predicted 3-7 FBS football players would die of CoronaVirus, if FBS college football was played in 2020.
Now, here we are in late November. That prediction is going to prove to be 100% wrong.
But, yes --- wow, was there a lot of hysteria about that back in August. Including here. That hysteria was completely unfounded.
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