Starts at 8 p.m. Minnesota just got 3 picks to move down a spot to #4. Cleveland now picks at #3.
OT: NFL Draft Open Thread
And I'd have been the THIRD open thread...
It's time. Hopefully not OT, but probably will be till tomorrow.
Beaten to the punch on my home turf. OP makes Peggy sad.
The first three picks will almost certainly be:
- Indy - Andrew Luck
- Washington - RGIII
- Cleveland -Trent Richardson
Taking a RB so high rally doesn't make much sense to me, considering the emphasis on passing, the short average career of RBs, and the Mathletes analysis of the impact of a returning RB in the college game.
you can probably say
4. Minnesota - Matt Kalil
The Browns actually did something right.
Giving up a 4, 5, and 7 to move up one spot is right? They must've had some good info that someone else was going to trade with minnesota to beat them to give that much.
The Browns have no playmakers. Since they didn't do enough to get RG3, they had to do everything they could to get Richardson.
I agree, but wouldn't he have been there at 4? All indications were that Minnesota would take the OT
I'm sure Minny let Cleveland know that they were going to trade the pick, and what the price was. That's why Cleveland gave what they did. Teams don't do things like that without reason, and most of these GMs know what everyone else is going to do.
Cleveland already missed out on RG III. Their fan base would have burned down the stadium had they missed out on Trent Richardson.
You mean the Alabama draft open thread. Geesh.
Link??? (on the Minn/Cleve trade).... doesnt really make sense from Cleveland's side, anone they wanted at 4 is gonna bethere at 3 (can they really want USC's OT that bad when they have Joe Thomas)
It's for Richardson, not the OT
I didn't actually read a link to that trade. Just saw it on the twitters
He would have been there at 4... IF no one traded up in their place. I don't think they gave up too much.
Seems like a lot to give up to move 1 spot. I guess tampa was driving up the price.
Dumb move by Cleveland, whats new.
Hoping the Lions can get Dre Kirkpatrick at 23.
Unfortunately looks like they would have to trade up to get one of the top CB's. Unless they take a chance on Jenkins maybe.
as a tampa fan, i will be pissed if claiborne and richardson both get drafted before the 5th pick. its starting to look like a very real possibility, though.
and we lost out on Claiborne. Now what?
when Tebow smiles as I feel when RGIII smiles, then I totally get Tebow-mania (NTTAWWT)
I reserve my good feelings for the smilings of Leo Messi... though those have been hard to come by this past week :(
on twitter with some nice comments:
"I know Trent Richardson is supposed to be GREAT, but I still think taking a RB with the third overall pick is a waste of resources.
The issue isn't how good is Richardson. The issue is Richardson vs. avg RB compared to Claiborne vs. avg CB or Kalil vs. avg OT.
It's a lot easier to find an avg RB than it is to find an avg OT, and it is a lot easier to find an avg OT than it is to find an avg CB."
I agree it's very poor form to put such stock in a RB (a lesson all Bears fans learned over and over). However, here in Ohio the general belief is that the defense is headed in the right direction, but the offense is so stagnant that its unwatchable. Cleveland needs that excitement-especially with a very solid L side of the lineand a possession qb
Then do what every smart team does - if you don't need a top-5 type position (CB, DE, OT, QB) or aren't quite high enough to get the good ones, trade down, not up. They should have traded down and taken a guy like Doug Martin, and they would have had more picks to build with rather than fewer picks. Or they could have picked a WR and kept their later round picks.
This screams terrible decision to me, but it's the Browns, so yeah.
But try to convince a Packers fan that they shouldn't have taken Barry Sanders over Tony Mandarich. Even IF Mandarich had panned out, Barry carried the Lions for a decade.
Individual players have their own values.
It's about context and playing in the afc north you need to run the ball. The browns average backs didn't do the job.
So, approximately half the draft class will end up in Minnesota.
Browns still have 8 more picks after the trade.
I dont think Jenkins goes in the first round. Too many red flags.
So what is Detroit's "home run" draft?
Move up to pick Barron, trade for Samuel, then snag maybe a RB and an OL late?
was traded to Atlanta yesterday
Well I'm behind on the news.
I guess that makes drafting a corner priority 1-A.
I have a bet with people from home: Who gets taken first - Mike Martin or Kork Coupons. Most mock's think they win, but I'm holding out hope.
1st round is brilliant.
The people who attend this draft are dopes.
Browns season ticket holder here. I LOVE the trade. Bout time we did something with those damn low round draft picks we've been stockpiling. Nice move.
so why is it taking the colts more than 20 secs to have the card up and ready to read. This is the part I hate about the draft, everyone knows who you are picking, why even put it on a clock just get it over with.
I find it odd that his father is not here.
his real father is busy shooting a new Geico commercial.
Did the Redskins just draft RGIII or Andre 3000 from Outkast?
I hope the Jags can get Blackmon for Henne.
The browns finally make a good pick
...and desperately need to get an update on Mel's hair status. Please tell me it's as smoove as ever.
Sorry. I'm watching NFL Network. I'd like to take the majority of ESPN and beat them with a shovel, Chris Mortensen exempted.
It's as smooth as Denard's play against OSU last season.