OT- LeBron calls Braylon 'childish'
I know the story got broke early today about Braylon allegedly hitting a club owner this morning outside a Cleveland nightclub. Seems like LeBron doesn't take too kindly to Braylon's actions.
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=4534215&campaign=rss&source…
October 5th, 2009 at 4:54 PM ^
LeBrons a douche
October 5th, 2009 at 5:00 PM ^
Braylon seems to be somewhat high-maintenance in the Detroit tradition (Webber, Rose, et al.). Obviously LeBron has that tendency, too. It will be interesting to see how this plays out in the Court of Public Opinion (for what that's worth).
October 5th, 2009 at 5:10 PM ^
who the Cavs hope to re-sign to stay in Cleveland, versus a WR from Michigan?
I suggest a change of venue for that Court of Public Opinion.
I suggest a change of venue for that Court of Public Opinion.
October 5th, 2009 at 9:04 PM ^
There are many, many pro athletes from Detroit. You are seriously over-generalizing here. Anyway, how was Jalen Rose high maintenance? His personal conduct has been exemplary since he's gone pro to my knowledge.
October 5th, 2009 at 5:03 PM ^
This whole scenario makes no sense whatsover
October 5th, 2009 at 5:04 PM ^
lebron also says "My friend is 130 pounds. Seriously. It's like hitting one of my kids."
way to stand up for your brah, brah.
October 5th, 2009 at 5:04 PM ^
Braylon has been a tremendous (thanks Lloyd) disappointment in the NFL thus far.
October 5th, 2009 at 5:57 PM ^
Braylon broke numerous Michigan records and won the Biletnikoff while being coached by Lloyd Carr. While at Michigan he had no serious disciplinary problems nor did he have any serious problems with drops or route running, particularly his last two years.
I'm curious how any disappointment you're feeling is Carr's fault...
October 5th, 2009 at 6:01 PM ^
He meant thanks to Lloyd for his use of the word "tremendous"
October 5th, 2009 at 6:18 PM ^
ahh, thanks. now I feel silly.
October 6th, 2009 at 3:21 AM ^
He is a great receiver when it comes to difficult catches, but Braylon always had a concentration problem on the easy catches. Go back and watch some of his games, particularly his Junior year. He dropped quite a few.
October 5th, 2009 at 5:13 PM ^
I'm betting this 130 pounder dunked on Lebron, and now Queen James has to stick up for him or else he'll show the tape to everybody.
I've never met Braylon personally, but know a handful of folks who have hung out with him. He doesn't seem like the type of guy to just sock some dude in the face for no reason. I'm curious about the details.
October 5th, 2009 at 6:33 PM ^
I met Braylon while a student at UofM. Great guy, down to earth, and in no way had an elitist mentality.
October 5th, 2009 at 8:06 PM ^
That is exactly what I've always been told. Never heard a bad word about the guy.
I also don't get the "Braylon is jealous" angle from Lebron. Both guys are multi-millionaire pro athletes so I don't get what Braylon would have to be jealous about. Did Lebron intimidate him by showing off those fancy high school championship rings he has?
October 5th, 2009 at 8:11 PM ^
I'm a moron.
October 5th, 2009 at 5:23 PM ^
I enjoyed one of comments on the espn article; "What does he mean by "childish?" Childish, like having a videotape confiscated of someone dunking on you?"
October 6th, 2009 at 12:23 PM ^
biting your nails and throwing baby powder in the air.
His Highness has just enough ego to think that the baby powder routine is "sweet".
October 5th, 2009 at 5:25 PM ^
Lebron has plenty of issues in his own personal life that call into question his "maturity." He really should keep his opinion of other sports figures to himself.
October 5th, 2009 at 5:37 PM ^
Like what, out of curiosity?
October 5th, 2009 at 5:52 PM ^
Off the top of my head, and this is largely due to being in the ESPN spotlight 24/7, but thems the circumstances:
-The aforementioned confiscation of a tape of him being dunked on, ordered directly by LeBron.
-Being willing to leave Cleveland for Europe for cash. No one said that was a particularly mature move by Beckham when he did the almost exact same thing.
-Refusing to shake hands at the end of the series, then refusing to apologize for it.
-Not understanding what Darfur is, which like, come on, that is cause celeb numero uno these days. While you could say, "He's an athlete, he doesn't have to know that," I'd just say he's a dumbass.
October 5th, 2009 at 6:07 PM ^
I must've missed the time he said he'd leave Cleveland for Europe.....
October 5th, 2009 at 6:21 PM ^
http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=3520860
Now LeBron himself didn't say it, it was a source close to him, but if you search LeBron Olympiacos, those rumors haven't exactly died. LeBron wants money, which, hey I can't blame him for, but I don't think many Cleveland fans would see things the same ways.
That is, after they got off their knees and finished LeBron off.
October 5th, 2009 at 7:34 PM ^
Lost me. Are you saying it would be childish to consider going to Europe for $50 Million a year. Fuck, if I were him, I'd go to Mars for $50 Million a year!
October 5th, 2009 at 7:37 PM ^
"Git cho ahz to Mahz."
Yeah, Total Recall kicks ass.
October 5th, 2009 at 8:09 PM ^
Not saying I wouldn't do it either, but just trying to point out that LeBron needs to consider what his words are after some of his actions. In that way, going to Europe, where the competition is markedly worse isn't exactly the sign of someone who wants to be the number one player in the world or anything.
It's probably, at best, tangentially related to the whole childish idea, but I'm seeing a connection there. I understand if others don't.
October 5th, 2009 at 5:54 PM ^
Don't know about his personal life, but the way he conducts himself in public is extremely immature. It's pretty clear that he depends on the opinions of others to determine his sense of self-worth. Otherwise, there would be no showboating, attention-whoring, or other nonsense.
October 5th, 2009 at 5:27 PM ^
From the comments:
"What does he mean by "childish?" Childish, like having a videotape confiscated of someone dunking on you?"
October 5th, 2009 at 5:30 PM ^
look 2 comments up
October 5th, 2009 at 5:51 PM ^
LeBron shouldn't talk. He can save his comments for Shaquille.
October 5th, 2009 at 6:04 PM ^
who should be calling people childish...I've never seen Braylon refuse to shake the hand of an opponent after a loss.
October 5th, 2009 at 6:13 PM ^
How is lebron the last person to call some childish? LeBron is the best player in the league and pretty much is a good role model. Braylon has done nothing in his career.
What is the big deal of calling him childish? Just because someone famous says something bad about a Wolverine, doesn't mean the person is a bad person.
October 5th, 2009 at 6:25 PM ^
1. Kobe is the best player in the league.
2. LeBron is not a good role model.
3. The problem with him calling someone childish, is that he is childish himself.
4. It hardly has anything to do with Braylon being a Wolverine.
October 5th, 2009 at 6:39 PM ^
I don't want to get too much into this but..
1) Kobe being the best player in the league is only evidenced by "player who works the hardest" and "best player on the team that recently won the championship".
2) LeBron being the best player in the league would fall under "most talented", "#1 overall fantasy pick", "most likely to win NBA championship this season", and "most coveted free agent of all time if he declares".
Got to give it to LeBron, sorry man. Yes, the Lakers won and the Cavs didn't, but Kobe had Gasol, Odom, Fisher (who showed up in the finals), and Ariza. LeBron had.... crickets. You put LeBron on that team and they win the championship, easily.
October 5th, 2009 at 6:44 PM ^
you're opinion, man.
October 5th, 2009 at 9:01 PM ^
about either Kobe or Lebron, but Lebron is definitely the
bigger star and more dominant player.
The Lakers are esentially an all star team like the Celts are (when healthy) and the Cavs are basically a one man show with a piss poor coach to boot.
October 6th, 2009 at 9:07 AM ^
You are being quite definitive when even most experts can't say who is better. The fact that LeBron gets better stats is in large part because of the fact he has less talent around him. Put Kobe on the cavs and see what he does when everyone gives him the rock every play. I would think he blows LeBrons stats out of the water. Put LeBron on the Lakers and yeah, he'll win a champoinship like Kobe, but his numbers wouldn't be as nice.
The fact that someone is a "bigger star" or "most sought after free agent" doesn't mean they are a better player. IME Kobe is the better player at this point and that has nothing to do with the fact that he has championship rings for most of his fingers.
October 5th, 2009 at 6:42 PM ^
Yup, we really need more young men with a huge national audience to have two kids but not get married to the mother.
(In LeBron's situation, not the worst thing or stupidest decision by any means, but it makes him pretty much the opposite of a good role model for many communities that struggle with single parenthood everyday. I'm also channeling a 65 year old, silent majority-type, man.)
October 5th, 2009 at 6:47 PM ^
Nothing? I guess you're right. It's not like he's ever made a Pro Bowl or broke his franchise's single-season receiving yards and touchdown records.
October 5th, 2009 at 6:06 PM ^
He's been pretty childish his entire career. He once called out his own teammate for a hard hit on an opposing WR. He also never has taken responsibility for all his dropped passes.
He will likely get a fresh start elsewhere next season, so maybe things will change. Bit given his track record, this incident isn't all that surprising.
October 5th, 2009 at 6:55 PM ^
The only part I agree about that is the "fresh start next year". Living in Chicago I hope to god that it's with the Bears. Perfect fit.
October 5th, 2009 at 7:12 PM ^
Good, after the Browns franchise him, they'll get a late first from Chicago for him.
For a team with an enforcer like Urlacher, it would probably be best for him. But he and Winslow were running the roost in Cleveland, with no leadership from the head coach and no veteran presence to keep him in line. Not the best situation for him.
October 5th, 2009 at 6:14 PM ^
This can't be the same guy who tried to have Nike confiscate a video because he was embarrassed he got dunked on at a college showcase is it?
October 5th, 2009 at 7:01 PM ^
Speaking of Lebron and former Michigan players, that was a Lebron-esque call Brady got this weekend for "roughing" the passer. Is the NFL turning into the NBA??
October 5th, 2009 at 7:19 PM ^
Dude, f*ck Lebron.
That's it. Seriously. Neg me all you want, don't care, it's worth it.
I don't know why anyone gives 2 shits about anything this guy says or does. Most overrated "superstar" in all of professional sports.
October 5th, 2009 at 7:30 PM ^
Anyone notice in that article that Braylon's manager is former UM basketball player Hayes Grooms?
October 5th, 2009 at 7:43 PM ^
He was the coach a few years after Braylon left UM and somehow, someway, someone needs to find a way to lay this one at his feet.
We never had problem with our players in the pros before he became coach.
I'm just sayin'
October 5th, 2009 at 8:00 PM ^
I do not like Lebron. Braylon went to Michigan and is one of my all time favorite players. Screw you Lebron.
October 5th, 2009 at 8:55 PM ^
Yes we all love Braylon, but to call Lebron childish and selfish is kind of wrong. Yeah he didn't shake hands after that game. Who cares if he isn't aware of Darfur and speaking out against it.
What I know for a fact Lebron has done is resurface every park basketball court in the city of Akron. He replaces the rims on hoops that ignorant mother fucking assholes rip down to put on the side of their house. He pays to cover spray paint also. AND he gives a fuck ton of bicycles away to HIS charity event once a year. He hosts a basketball camp and signs every autograph.
My point is if you want to call him childish or what ever go ahead, but when you talk about his flaws you damn well should weigh them out with the positives and you will see that they are in favor of the positives. And yes that was a run-on sentence
October 5th, 2009 at 9:07 PM ^
Fair enough, and we should note that Braylon's given quite a bit back to Detroit and U-M, as well.
October 5th, 2009 at 9:12 PM ^
And thats great. Neither have any room to talk. Both have been childish at times and other times they have been good "role models".