OT: Jim Caldwell's last stand? Lions vs Bucs

December 10th, 2017 at 1:22 PM ^

With decent coaching the lions could be that or better. How many times have the Lions come out sloppy to give a 20 point lead and then come back to barely win or barely lose. Good coaching keeps them out of those sitatuations which means you're not relying on the refs to not screw them over. Falcons games was bad and the refs screwed that game up in my opinion. But again, that was a game where the Lions were trailing and going for a last second win.

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MotownGoBlue

December 10th, 2017 at 1:18 PM ^

Last stand? We’re talking about the Detroit Lions and Ford ownership. The Lions are playing for draft picks and Caldwell’s good for another losing season in 2018.

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LSAClassOf2000

December 10th, 2017 at 1:29 PM ^

Admittedly, I am on board with those that would like to see Caldwell go after this year, but if he doesn't for some reason, then to me (and I have been famously wrong before) it comes down to either Quinn seeing something that doesn't appear to be there or Martha reserves for herself that final call on Caldwell. I guess I would like to see what Quinn's hire would be, if it is not Caldwell.

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December 10th, 2017 at 2:17 PM ^

Patricia or McDaniels possibly with the Patriots links.

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smitty1983

December 10th, 2017 at 1:18 PM ^

No excuse for keeping him. The last straw was 9 players on field for 3rd down. I’d fire him on the spot then

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GUESS WHO

December 10th, 2017 at 1:19 PM ^

Lions suck! with their owner coach combo they are basically the Bengals.

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The Krusty Kra…

December 10th, 2017 at 1:23 PM ^

Win their division and then shit the bed in the playoffs, Lions aren't even competent enough to pull that out of the hat.

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GUESS WHO

December 10th, 2017 at 2:10 PM ^

If you say so. Winning the division doesn't mean shit if you can't capitalize and win a home playoff game.

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The Krusty Kra…

December 11th, 2017 at 9:31 AM ^

For a moribund franchise that hasn't done that since 1993.

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SalvatoreQuattro

December 10th, 2017 at 1:21 PM ^

Lions have been lacking in talent on defense for two years now. All that money spent on the OL has been a bust. Bob Quinn’s job should be in jeopardy too.

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December 10th, 2017 at 1:26 PM ^

I honestly feel like poor OL play is on coaching. Lang and Wagner played great for the other teams but come to the Lions and the OL play stays below average? That's coaching and poor offensive game planning IMO. I think BQ has done a decent job considering how terrible the roster was when he got here. Building depth and trying to fix key issues as much as possible. Too many holes to fix in only 2 years.

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MGoHarbaugh77

December 10th, 2017 at 1:29 PM ^

I mean those two players specifically have been injured a fair amount this season. Most of the Lions OL has been in and out. Decker just got back 2 weeks ago, Swanson and Lang have been in and out w/ concussions, Wagner has been banged up. Graham glasgow has been the only healthy one.

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MGoHarbaugh77

December 10th, 2017 at 1:29 PM ^

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December 10th, 2017 at 1:45 PM ^

Injuries have hurt the OL which supports my original post that it's not on BQ. He's at least attempting to fix the Lions biggest problem since the beginning of time.

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December 10th, 2017 at 1:42 PM ^

Fire Harbaugh also? Re: Poor offensive line play?

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December 10th, 2017 at 1:50 PM ^

No I do not think Harbaugh should be fired for poor line play... 1. There's a difference between having to rely on true freshman and true sophomores on the OL vs coaching NFL talent. Harbaugh needs time to recruit OL talent and then development. Can't acquire talent in FA like NFL. (Although the stuff with Ole Miss may make you think otherwise) Also, Harbaugh hasn't proven to be incompetent time and time again. Out coached some times? Sure. Harbaugh > Caldwell. Doesn't take a genius to understand that.

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December 10th, 2017 at 2:03 PM ^

You’re sticking to it! I️ don’t have anything else to say. Your post explains it all! Yep! Fire Caldwell! That’ll solve all of you Lion lovers wishes! After he gets fired just bring back Schwartz! He was a great guy, and his personality was impeccable. He was below .500 by 20+ games and there have been a number of posters in here that would love to have him back! The Lion fanbase deserves to have a head coach with personality and sub .500 coaching. Can’t wait.

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December 10th, 2017 at 2:16 PM ^

Don't be silly... We should hire Steve Mariucci back.

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UMxWolverines

December 10th, 2017 at 1:28 PM ^

Quinn hasn't been here long enough. He should get at least a few more years.

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Stringer Bell

December 10th, 2017 at 1:31 PM ^

Yeah let's keep firing the GM. Great way to build a winner.

Quinn has done a pretty darn good job actually. His drafting has been very good.

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BlueWolverine02

December 10th, 2017 at 1:51 PM ^

his drafting has been hit or miss. remember this is a guy who spent a draft pick on a long snapper who had virtually no chance of making the team. Davis has been largely underwhelming this year, and Tabor can't get on the field. Golliday might be a great find in the 3rd though.

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rd2w10

December 10th, 2017 at 1:30 PM ^

Cant stop the run or defend the pass. Im starting to think ziggy is really 38 years old.

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Oh Deer

December 10th, 2017 at 1:33 PM ^

Caldwell just signed an extension earlier this year. He's not getting fired.

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xtramelanin

December 10th, 2017 at 1:38 PM ^

Detroit Lions coach Jim Caldwell's multiyear contract extension, signed earlier this year, appears to provide less job security than initially believed, a source confirmed to ESPN.

The source said Caldwell's extension is guaranteed for only 2018 with team options beyond that, so if the Lions decide to fire Caldwell, they would have to pay him for next season only.

and link to the whole article here: http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/21726844/contract-detroit-lions-coac…

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ckersh74

December 10th, 2017 at 1:39 PM ^

Caldwell's extension only got him through 2018, with an option for 2019.

If they want to clip him, there's not much holding them back financially.

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Oh Deer

December 10th, 2017 at 1:34 PM ^

Awesome double post. He's still not getting fired

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December 10th, 2017 at 1:34 PM ^

It’s Caldwell’s fault that his personnel are all pro-bowlers and he cannot motivate, them! Just poor play calling! Yeah right! I️ can’t wait until you all get your wish!

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Maize and Luke

December 10th, 2017 at 1:37 PM ^

there's the problem. They should be playing football players, not bowlers.

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December 10th, 2017 at 2:22 PM ^

The guy makes junior high level coaching mistakes. Hope we do get out wish because any team that consistently gets called for not having enough men on the field is not being coached by someone who is on top of their shit.

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December 10th, 2017 at 2:29 PM ^

Schwartz is available and he has to be more competent than Caldwell, because he was like able and 20+ games below five hundred. With 11 players on the field at all times! FOH

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December 10th, 2017 at 3:17 PM ^

Why is it that any time someone has an agument you don't like you get all salty?

And nobody said shit about Schwartz. There are a lot of people out there who can coach and also make sure that the right number of guys are on the field.

Were you fired from a coaching job at some point? Because you often seem to be against any criticism of coaches on here.

So, in conclusion: GTFOH yourself.

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December 10th, 2017 at 4:40 PM ^

Maynard suggests: Any middle school coach could have the Detroit Lions in second place in the NFC division. False
Secondly, you can argue anything about a coach. The fact that there have been other discussions about Caldwell in here that you are unaware of; doesn’t mean that some other posters have not mentioned that Schwartz was a better coach than Caldwell. True
Lastly, I️ don’t give a damn what you say the Lions just won despite all of your bickering about Caldwell. Truth

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December 10th, 2017 at 5:29 PM ^

You're getting to be a sassy old lady in your advanced age.

They're 7-6 and not going to makethe playoffs. Knowing football is obviously not your bag though drinking Kool-Aid is.

Truth.

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December 10th, 2017 at 5:44 PM ^

Your insults do nothing! It’s ok! Some people BITCH, and MOAN! You just BITCH, all the time. You said it earlier when people are critical of coaching I️ sometimes say something. But you offer zero conclusion or any positive solution. It’s your nature. I️m good, if you are. Lol

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December 10th, 2017 at 5:48 PM ^

Maynard, Bitch and Moan doll, at Target! Up down up, in out in! Lol

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