OT: Former Lions and Bears QB Erik Kramer Apparent Suicide Attempt
Former Bears and Lions QB Erik Kramer who has suffered from depression for years was wounded in an apparent failed suicide attempt.
http://www.mlive.com/lions/index.ssf/2015/08/report_ex-lions_qb_erik_kr…
If you know anyone in need of help.
http://www.suicidepreventionlifeline.org
August 20th, 2015 at 9:17 AM ^
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August 20th, 2015 at 9:58 AM ^
Despite my lame attempts at humor and insight on this blog, 2013 to early 2015 was a pretty dark time for me. I hope I don't ever walk down that dark path again. But just in case...
August 20th, 2015 at 11:50 AM ^
love the avatar.
I walked the road in 2010 and again in 2014. Sometimes it just sneaks up on you. Try your hardest to avoid it, but don't get down on yourself if it sneaks up on you. Always remember that it does get better with time.
August 20th, 2015 at 12:06 PM ^
Thank you, I appreciate that. As for the avi, I hoped and prayed that it would be on the web and lo' and behold it was. I always played Super Tec with the Lions, and whenever we'd played the Bears, Jim and Neal Anderson would always have a play or two that would make me throw the controller. I mean how in the hell would Anderson house a 50+ yard run multiple times when he looked like he was running in slow motion compared to Barry and Tecmo Bo?!
August 20th, 2015 at 12:14 PM ^
But just as an fyi for those dealing with treatment resistant major depression, the new ketamine treatments can be a lifesaver. Find a doctor that will prescribe it as an intranasal spray, or go to one of the (expensive) I.V. infusion centers that have been popping up.
Someone very close to me probably wouldn't have made it without it.
August 20th, 2015 at 9:21 AM ^
Don't know what Kramer's demons are but hope he can find a doctor to help him through it...fond memories of this guy when he played for Detroit.
August 20th, 2015 at 9:30 AM ^
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August 20th, 2015 at 10:16 AM ^
I don't understand how people don't eat a bullet when they have to bury a child. That thought is completely horrific and incomprehensible to me.
I hope he gets better.
August 20th, 2015 at 12:54 PM ^
I mean I was a nervous wreck when my one year son had to get anesthetized just to get tubes put in his ears. I can't even imagine how tough it would be to have wait it out for open heart surgery. Best wishes to you and your family on that front.
Losing a child has to be the worst thing ever. The nightmare that wakes me up in a cold sweat and keeps me from falling back asleep is the one where something awful has happened to my kids.
August 20th, 2015 at 12:28 PM ^
He's probably been Detroit's best QB since... well... since I've been alive.
August 20th, 2015 at 9:28 AM ^
Honestly, fuck the media. This should be an internal family issue not to be publicized. If and when Kramer is ready to talk about his survival, then write an article about it.
Until then, stay strong Erik. There's always another option.
August 20th, 2015 at 9:30 AM ^
He lost a son in 2011 to a drug overdose........ You don't have to have kids to know how devastating that would be. My thoughts are with the Kramer family
August 20th, 2015 at 9:43 AM ^
He should listen to more Ace of Base. Never would have been in this situation in the first place IMHO.
August 20th, 2015 at 9:53 AM ^
You sir are a pathetic human being
August 20th, 2015 at 10:09 AM ^
Obviously you've never listened to Ace of Base.
I can't even frown during "Beautiful Life."
Go ahead and try for yourself.
Nobody is thinking of killing themselves during that track.
August 20th, 2015 at 10:13 AM ^
Beautiful Day also
August 20th, 2015 at 10:38 AM ^
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August 20th, 2015 at 10:37 AM ^
No, you're absolutely right. This is a serious matter. So serious in fact that I am going to talk about doing something nice for Mr' Kramer and I will hope and I will pray that his family is ok to make myself feel better so that I dont have to actually, you know, DO anything at all. It's pretty great actually. Matter of fact instead of going to work today I might just stay at home on my computer and write about how I hope and pray that my work gets done. I have all the faith in the world that if I hope long enough, it'll get done.
Actually, I think I will listen to more Ace of Base.
August 20th, 2015 at 10:46 AM ^
Hmm only 2 upvotes on this post? You forgot to upvote with your 3rd account man.
August 20th, 2015 at 10:47 AM ^
You already made this joke.
August 20th, 2015 at 10:52 AM ^
I upvoted you.
I even chuckled a little bit.
does that make me a terrible person?
If it does then the world is even more fucked than I had imagined.
August 20th, 2015 at 12:27 PM ^
No... the world is fucked. All you have to do is stick your head out the window.
August 20th, 2015 at 11:10 AM ^
...irreverance. It doesn't mean they fail to appreciate the gravity of the issues.
FWIW, I use gallows humor to help deal with particularly difficult situations on a fairly regular basis.
August 20th, 2015 at 10:21 AM ^
Nope I stand by my statement His Dudeness. You're a piece of shit.
Edit: it's also funny the number of upvotes on both of your posts is the same as the negs on mine. Hmm.....multiple accounts? No one in their right mind would upvote your comment
August 20th, 2015 at 10:41 AM ^
Your theories intrigue me and I would like to sign up for your newsletter.
August 20th, 2015 at 11:50 AM ^
Just sit the internet out today, mmkay?
August 20th, 2015 at 10:33 AM ^
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August 20th, 2015 at 10:40 AM ^
Why? There are literally thousands of people in your city going through this same thing right now. You dont even think about that. Suddenly it's a guy who threw a football semi-well for a bit and it's a crime against man to make a joke about it (even though seriously Ace of Base is pretty funny and it may actually help someone going through some shit). I just dont understand the "he said something I don't like make him go away" line of thinking here.
August 20th, 2015 at 10:52 AM ^
The political correctness machine and the "I must be offended at everything all while doing nothing to improve whatever is wrong that I am offended about" is strong on the blog today.
August 20th, 2015 at 11:25 AM ^
take the day off then.
August 20th, 2015 at 12:25 PM ^
I'm offended at people being offended at people being offended. Seesh.
August 20th, 2015 at 11:29 AM ^
August 20th, 2015 at 3:13 PM ^
I disagree. Anything is game in my book. I dont get offended.
August 20th, 2015 at 3:19 PM ^
should hang out.
August 20th, 2015 at 10:45 AM ^
All jokes aside, I didn't appreciate them when they were popular. I thought they were downright corny until I heard "The Sign" playing on the radio while I was getting some dental work done. I don't know if it was the nitrous oxide, or my continously evolving taste in music, but I was like
August 20th, 2015 at 9:44 AM ^
Eirk had troubles with his father from what I remember. Then, he lost his son while he was in high school. Now this.
Ugh.
Aside from that, some yahoos wlll use this as a reason to attack the game of football even though the suicide rate for former NFL players is lowerer than the general population. Rather than addressing the more important, over-arching issue of mental health help in the US, people ill seek to serve their own agenda. That is really insulting to people with mental health issues like Erik.
August 20th, 2015 at 10:16 AM ^
seems pretty convinced football played a part saying Eric struggled with depression going as far back as his days with the Bears.
So maybe the people closest to the situation might know a touch more than you cowboy.
August 20th, 2015 at 10:23 AM ^
August 20th, 2015 at 10:32 AM ^
His wife knows more about medicine than the data shows? Slow down there, buddy.
August 20th, 2015 at 11:53 AM ^
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August 20th, 2015 at 10:00 AM ^
Wow, some eerie parallels to another-former-Lion-QB-named-Eric. Eric Hipple's son also died and Hipple struggled with depression and attempted suicide. He's now working at the UM Depression Center doing outreach for these types of issues. Sounds like these guys really need to talk.
August 20th, 2015 at 10:04 AM ^
to myself, "whatever happened to Hipple?"
Thanks, you saved me a google search, and good to see he's connected to UM
August 20th, 2015 at 11:32 AM ^
I was a bartender at a Lions golf outing back in the early 90s when I was in college. Hipple had long since retired from the Lions but he was there partying like crazy. He consumed 28 full shots of tequilla that night. We started counting after about 7, the guy was slamming and then running around the room throwing the ball around. Ive never seen someone drink that much in 2 hours it was like 2.5 750 ml bottles of tequilla. Crappy house well tequilla too...not Patron.
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August 20th, 2015 at 11:43 AM ^
I speak from experience. Though I've never attempted suicide the thought crossed my mind many many times. I suffered from depression since the day I was born and it wasn't until my early 30's that I actually sought help. I was just too proud.
August 20th, 2015 at 10:25 AM ^