OT End of era. Mad Men finale tonight.
If you haven't seen the show, I would recommend giving it a watch. If you did and decided it wasn't your cup of tea, then shame on you. Kidding of course, okay, not really.
Wanted to have an open discussion on favorite/least favorite characters, moments, storylines, Draper fling or anything else related to the show. Also wondered what some of your theories on how they'll end the show are.
going to be sad when this is all done but it's ending at the right time .
He loves that show. I've never watched.
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- I think Roger Sterling was my favorite character
- Megan had to be my least favorite
- Don and Roger eating oysters and getting hammered during lunch was one of my favorite moments, especially when Don payed to have the elevator out so Roger would embarass himself after hitting on Betty.
- The guy getting his foot run over by the John Deere lawn mower was a great scene as well
- Peggy walking into the McCann with RayBans, a lit cigarette and the tentacle/lady poster was a solid move
- Merging with their rival firm was an intertaining storyline
- Don's best fling had to be Dr. Miller or Faye. He probably should of married her not Megan
I think the show ends with Don going to Spain with Sally, coming back to New York/McCann with a classic Coca-Cola tagline or he isn't the focus of the ending Peggy is. I really hope they don't kill him ala the opening scenes.
Love that show!
I will miss the show for sure, those are some great TV characters going away. Going to mix myself an old fashioned or three and enjoy it.
I gave that show a chance...I watched like 6 episodes, but it was so slow....hope the ending is great for all you die hards
I powered through. It certainly is a character drama and not an action-oriented show. If you give it another chance, get to the season 1 finale. The Kodak pitch/monologue is epic.
BTW I LOVE all the shows you mentioned. I'd rate them (starting with best) Breaking Bad, Mad Men, Sopranos, GoT (not much room between the top three with GoT a distant fourth but still awesome).
Boardwalk can't hold a candle to any of these shows in my opinion.
Buscemi was horribly miscast as Nucky Thompson. I thought the first season or so was OK, but I didn't even get to the final season, and it's rare for me to give up on a show that early. They had only 4 seasons I think, and the storylines were all over the place. I never figured out why Nucky was an important character. What was compelling about him? He was just a centerpiece to tell all these other stories about Capone and Meyer Lansky and all those mob guys, but their stories didn't interest me.
Mad Men got a little repetitive in seasons 4-7 as they would face pressure from the outside only to be saved by some deal Roger cooked up at the last minute. I also think Mad Men got less interesting as they moved from the early 60's to the late 60's, perhaps because I was born in 1970 and the early 60's are more removed from my experience, so it was interesting to see that time period portrayed.
was just kind of the center peice that the other players moved around, the show was not really about him as much as the events on the show happened because of him. I think what happened to Boardwalk is somewhat fascinating, because the best character on the show was SO good that he had to be kiiled off so that he did not run away with what the plot was supposed to be. I am convinced that the killing of Jimmy Darmody was not simply for the "shock" purposes that is all the rage, but because the show makers wanted the focus of the show to continue to be on quasi-historical events and not on a fictional character. But Pitts was so damn good and Darmody so compelling that as long as he was on the show he was going to be the focus, whether the producers wanted him to be or not. I would call the show absolutely brilliant up to and including the scene where Jimmy died. After that there was simply no emotional connection for the viewer so it became a by the numbers mob-show. Then they had do double back to the Darmody story line (which they never should have left) for the ending to resonate at all.
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Why is she such a big part of the show (or the books for that matter?) Her storyline puts me to sleep. I hope she has some important part to play later on, because otherwise I'm going to be disappointed that they spent so much time showing her washing dead bodies. She's totally isolated from the rest of the GoT world.
Hey man, to each his own. I just wouldn't blanket a series with 7 seasons with only having watched a handful of episodes. Also i think for a TV show to last 7 seasons(which is more like 10) and be mentioned with some of the greats isn't that bad of a thing.
I don't mind you not liking it, but to state something as a fact ("Not in the same league as X, Y and Z") when Mad Men routinely beats those shows for best drama is a little much.
It is one of the greatest shows of this era. That's a statement that's pretty accepted by a massive majority of critics out there (I'm considering anyone who watches all these shows to be a critic. Including you). "Universal acclaim" as Rotten Tomatoes puts it.
That's fair enough. Its style is certainly its strength and there were definitely episodes where I was waiting for something to happen. But Draper's character was enough to hold me over those early lulls (the Peggy pregnancy stuff was too long for my tastes as an example). I thought after the first couple seasons the side characters took off and that's what kept me coming back.
I'd be interested in what you mean by "forcing depth." There are many characters who we never or rarely got to see very deep into (Betty, for a long time. Cooper. Kenny. Kenny's turn as the "Hey, fuckers, I was here all along" competitor this seaosn has been fun to watch).
Will Don Draper choose Adidas or Nike though? THIS I WHY I DON'T SLEEP
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Of course, it's going to be hard to have a finale that is surprising and/or pleases everyone. I think we've seen the big burce ball: Betty's cancer. For a character that is pretty dislikable, her cancer reveal was somehow devastating. At least to me. I think it was devastating because of Sally, though.
And I think that's what I'd like to see the finale focus on: Sally and an optimistic note or allusion that she is not her parents. She won't get by in the world by relying on her looks. She'll pick up where her Mom left off and educate herself. She'll jump on the trail that Peggy blazed and become a leader and control her career. Anything that alludes to some kind of success like that for Sally will make me happy.
As for Don: I've watched every episode twice. I never pick up on the conspiracy theories that other Interneters do. However, the second time watching the first season it made me realize that they set Don's identity up very early on. It makes me think that Weiner has had something in mind all this time. However, Don's identity has been pretty flushed out. He's not hiding as much as he used to, so I dont' know what else would be a big surprise (save those conspiracy theories).
I don't even know if I care if Don will be happy. I just don't want him to make his kids' lives miserable.
And, of course, I hope Stan and Peggy hook up. And I hope something happens with Joan. Not a fan of the convenient relationship they threw together for her in this last season.
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I'm sure I don't know what I'm missing, but hopefully it's a good one for those of you who do enjoy it.
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I've seen that thrown around a lot and at first I didn't buy into it.
I'm still skeptical, but now with the reveal in last weeks episode, I can see it happening. Learning about Betty might be the catalyst.
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I suspect we won't see Pete or Trudy in this episode. Just like we won't see Joan. Those characters' stories are wrapped. Tonight we will see resolution of Roger, Peggy and Don.
I like your idea of Don giving up his assumed name and going back to Dick Whitman. That would be a meaningful redemption of his struggle all series long.
I wonder if we even see Betty and if we do I doubt Don will be in the scene. The last time they were together was a good scene. I agree Pete, Harry, maybe Joan, Ted and the rest of the gang are wrapped. I think we get heavy Don and Peggy.
I'm guessing no ... the last episode ended with Betty going to class, and she told Henry "It's what I always wanted to do." So I think that's it for her character ... we won't see any more of her, or her illness, or her passing.
My guess is we won't see Sally either ... we saw the last of her in the last episode where she read her mother's final letter to her.
I'm "hearing" don't expect resolution.
My other favorite scene besides the lawnmower scene already mentioned is when Betsy confronts Don in his home office about his identity. The lead up and gravity of that scene is unmatched on the show IMO. For once she had total power & control and he was so caught off guard that he turned into a nervous, shaking shell of himself. That coupled with their honest conversation shortly after on their bed about his past made for some great TV.
One of my favorite shows. The thing that rarely gets talked about is how funny Mad Men can be a times. It is not all the time laugh out loud comedy, but there are special funny moments throughtout the run of the show.
Great point. It's those dramas that find a way to make you laugh admist otherwise serious story-telling that are great. And there are many hilarious moments.
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My wife loves it. Tried to watch with her but it was a little too slow for me, perfer either more action or more humor (short attention span, what can I say).
My wife didn't start watching until really late in the series (like season 5 or something) on the advice of her sister. She has been trying to catch up to watch the finale tonight. I think she is actually looking forward to the show being over due to the binge she has been on.