OT: DoTA2 World Championships - ESPN3 - North America vs China in semi finals
When does Mario Kart start?
This is the right thread? Right?
the finals better be rainbow road.
What this is, but go USA!!!
I am hoping for this as well. Even after clicking the links and taking a quick look I don't know what this is. Video game tourney of some sort I guess.
Valve (company known for popular games like Portal, CS, Half Life) holds an annual tournament for their game Dota 2, called The International. The prize pool this year is over 10 million dollars, making it one of the highest prize pools for any tournament in any sport. Higher than Masters and most tennis tournaments I think.
Dota 2 is a strategic 5v5 game, lot of teamwork, communication, reflexes, and tactics involved.
The game going on right now is a Best of 3 match between Evil Geniuses, a US team, and VG, a Chinese team. The winner goes to the Grand Finals to meet Newbee, a Chinese team. So this is the US's last hope, the other teams lost earlier in the tournament. Winner of the grand finals gets $5 million.
ESPN3 is streaming the tournament, and ESPN2 will have a preview of the Grand Finals tonight.
Played for EG 5-6 years ago.
Pics or it didn't happen.
Would some OMG Shirtless pics be too much?
For what game?
texted me this info the other day. I said: "do what? " He was pretty excited that the game is mainstream now that it's on ESPN.
I wish I could get into MOBAs. Maybe if I didn't have young kids. But even then, something about the genre doesn't seem to click for me. Wouldn't mind seeing a return to ascendance for RTSs. I think Starcraft et al's increasing emphasis on micro has hurt them in the long run.
rooting for a d-bag like Arteezy.
Thanks for the info but I'll be having sex and breathing fresh air, not necessarily concurrently, that day.
says the guy with over 8000 points on an internet message board
That doesn't mean I'm about 100 points away from having a lot less sex and breathing a lot less air, does it?
Thanks for noticing!
Yeah, I bet those guys winning millions of dollars won't be having sex any time in the near future. Nerds.
Game 3, here we go baby!
I've played LoL extensively and just started getting into DotA and all I have to say is I don't think one is better than the other because the games are similar but different enough to keep them separate. Dota is way more in-depth, way more tactical, and was more nuanced.
I consider DotA the hobbyists MOBA. LoL is none of those things, aside from tactical, but even LoL tactics pale to DotA's. LoL : Dota 2 :: Hearthstone : Magic the Gathering.
The Old School Dotas on TFT were great. 1/10th the items and probably 1/10th the heroes. These days its just so much to learn and study. So many key bindings and so many counters to learn. It's like a poor man's WOW.
Old School DOTA was beautiful because it was a simple quick game that you could teach to any gamer in a matter of minutes and enjoy. Now its all builds and team comp that matters.
I know that games have to evolve to stay relevant or people get burned out and stop playing. But that doesn't mean I have to like it.
Meet the future. Ever since I played Everquest in '99 I knew I'd be looking at the future of competition. Our "real" sports won't be going away soon, but the fact that these online games are far more accessible to the world (no need to leave the house to play), and that they just keep getting so much better leaves little doubt this is where the future lies.
I remember the line in The Matrix where Joey Pants said something like "If it's between this hell-hole you call reality, and the Matrix, I'll choose the Matrix." Foreboding. There are already thousands of people, especially in South Korea and China who spend the better part of their lives plugged into games like DOTA and World of Warcraft, and as life just gets harder and harder, and as virtual experiences get better and better, I can't help but think this artificial life will be the fate of many future generations.
But honestly, if you have kids, do everything in your power to keep them away from massive multi-player online games. They are insanely addicitive and engrossing, and in many cases, more satisfying than reality because they are more black and white with winning/losing as opposed to the greyness that is our day-to-day reality. If they'd been around when I was in middle-school and/or high school, I highly doubt I'd have this Michigan degree.
in the wrong century. I don't get it.
What is there to get? It is a 5v5 (video) game played competitively. You are on a message board for a game that is played competitively. What are you having trouble understanding? If it is the game itself, then yeah - there is no way you would understand it at first glance.
This is an interesting experiment. I don't think that e-sports has much of a future as a spectator sport, but we'll see. I don't think that video games need to be popular as spectator sports to thrive, for what it's worth.
You're very wrong. It's no different than any other activity where most people can appreciate it to some degree because they've tried. Even most girls at a b ball or football game have thrown the ball around or shot some hoop. The fans are mainly comprised of the tens of thousands of other players who can appreciate the play they see at a high level, and learn from the best.
Video games are somewhat different. There are more barriers to enjoying watching somebody play it. Games are highly specialized. Every genre is like a different sport. There's not enough shared experience there for any one game. There's also just the issue of it being really difficult, if not impossible, to follow the action when it's a 16 player death match or an RTS, where the action could be happening in a huge number of places. I think that is the bigger barrier. It would be like having to watch every player in a golf tournament play their ball simultaneously. G4 had a show called "Arena" about 10 years ago and it didn't make for compelling viewing, largely for these reasons IMHO.
DOTA 2 sounds like it is in a genre that would make a really poor TV viewing experience. It might make for decent viewing if the viewer can control the camera. The fighting and sports genres might be okay, but there have been tournaments for these sports for years, if not decades, and I don't sense much demand for TV coverage.