OT: Dining in Paris & London

Submitted by MGrether on

About to head over the pond to Paris & London... and I am responsible for finding places to eat for the group. Anyone who has spent time over there that has "a favorite" cafe, eatery or part of town that they like to eat in? Most of our meals, we will be looking for reasonable to low priced food (well... as far as food in big cities is ever reasonable).

CharlesCarmichael

June 16th, 2015 at 10:32 PM ^

London is big, so it depends on where you are and how much you want to move around.  But I highly, highly recomend finding your way over to Bourough Market.  Wonderful, fresh, foods from many cultures around the world.  You can find plenty to eat on site, but also a lot to take with you.  It's amazing.  And, if you only want to snack at the market, there are some very nice restuarants in that area.  Right around the corner, Del Mercato is a very nice italian place that had the most authentic and best tasting pizza that I've had outside Italy.

DoubleYost

June 16th, 2015 at 10:38 PM ^

If your in London head to Shoreditch for a night out. For a quick and genuine lunch try a jerk chicken shop in Elephant and Castle in South London but there's a few so I couldn't pinpoint. If you don't get a donner or kebab after a night of drinking you suck at life. There's a great Ale festival I went to in Ealing (west London) around the first weekend in July. Quality ales and ciders from the UK and US. Hyde Park musical festival around the same time always puts on great acts

ChalmersE

June 16th, 2015 at 10:49 PM ^

Try Le Soufflé , 36 Rue du Mont-Thabor. Near Rue de Rivoli, the Westin, and Place Vendome. In London, I like Wild Honey and for breakfast The Wolseley.

WolverineMac

June 16th, 2015 at 10:54 PM ^

Go to Hemingways bar in Paris, below the Ritz I believe and get yourself a $30 Manhattan because well yea.

Get Nutella crepes from vendors between the Westin and the Louvre...

white_pony_rocks

June 16th, 2015 at 11:04 PM ^

if you want to have a great night in London, do a shake, rattle, and stir gin tour, they are fucking amazing.  the gf and I went on one and we were the ony americans, which is how you know the tour is good.  If you're looking for good curry, and a nice place also, go to Imli Street.

http://shakerattleandstir.co.uk/

Seriously, I just looked up shake, rattle, and stir, it is #5 out of 1,206 nightlife in london on trip advisor, with 69 excellent ratings, 3 very good, and 1 average

rjhucks

June 16th, 2015 at 11:23 PM ^

Breizh Café - really good crepes and gallettes Le Bouillion Charter - inexpensive, good food. Got duck confit, a steak, and a bottle of wine for under 40 euros.

borninAnnArbor

June 16th, 2015 at 11:32 PM ^

My wife is English and I lived in a city north of London, but I still have a few ideas.
Just about any reasonable pub will do food. Traditional favorites like bangers and mash or spotted dick are things to try just to say you did. If you don't mind paying a little more Nandos is a great chicken place to go to. In you are looking for really cheap, Greggs is a walk in place that serves pasty (rhymes with nasty) that are good. I would also recommend getting a cherry tart for desert. There are also places around London that do fish and chips for pretty cheep.

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dRich

June 16th, 2015 at 11:58 PM ^

Why people get so worked up over OT threads... It's OT... Meaning it probably doesn't pertain to michigan directly if at all. Avoid these threads of you don't want to read about non Michigan things. I for one find threads like these cool when things are slow. Yes it's a sports blog, and while it is The University of Michigan that binds us all together that doesn't mean we are short of other interesting things in our lives. The blog is evolving into a place you not only get the 411 on all things maize and blue, but a place for all Michigan fans to chit chat in between games, OMGshirtless pics, Harbaugh shenanigans and actual recruiting info. These threads are wayyyyyy better than UM obsessed threads like over on RCMB. The second we start doing that... Then commence with the complaints. Until then I'll be reading.... OPP (other people's posts) yeah you know me.

Wendyk5

June 17th, 2015 at 12:10 AM ^

A good resource for dining in Paris is Davidlebovitz.com. He's an expat pastry chef who lives in Paris and he has good, non-touristy recommendations. In London, we had good fish and chips at Kerbisher & Malt in Shepherd's Bush (birthplace of Roger Daltrey). Also, the Borough Market is a like a giant high quality food court with something for everyone. 

LDNfan

June 17th, 2015 at 1:36 AM ^

I live in London...'reasonable to low priced' hahahahahaha...Never heard of it.

Dining out is expensive as hell so I rarely do it. But, there are some good markets here (Borough, Broadway, Alexandra Palace during the day and Street Feast at night) and Shoreditch is the new happening, hipster area with lots of restaurants (Dishoom is a popular Indian restaurant that isn't terribly expensive but can overflow with hipsters its open all day so breakfast or lunch works well) and bars..Dalston too which is a bit younger and down market. Both areas are on the same 'Overground' train line. 

All in all...expect a bit of sticker shock...have another drink and figure you'll pay it off by the time you take your next summer holiday.

Stevedez

June 17th, 2015 at 6:55 AM ^

Meat/Liquor is one of my favorites in London... though it is more of a burger place which isn't very British. Don't know places in Paris as I have only been there once for a conference and we just drank at bars.

willow

June 17th, 2015 at 7:25 AM ^

I've traveled with friends who have had some French and I usually end up being the spokeswoman without a shred of French.

Get a little guide to the words that appear on menues.  Mine was tiny, about 3"x4", and fit in a pocket. (I did it to avoid sweetbreads which the French love.)

Best way to start to a conversation: "Pardon, monsieur, (or madam) I have a problem."  (Most speak some English, but do not wish to embarrass themselves.  If you use a French word here and there, you have given them permission to speak bad English.  They will go out of their way to help, will use whatever English they know and you'll both be laughing at the improv by the end of the conversation.  Sign language and good humor work wonders.)  BTW,don't shout, they're not hard of hearing.

If you're not sure of what you want to eat, ask the matre d' what is good that day.  They'll be very flattered and you will not be disappointed.  Stay away from touristy places and American hotels.  Menues are usually posted outside.

I love France and have never been disappointed.  I rarely opt for expensive meals: the bistros and small family restaurants are usually terrific.  A more unusual favorite of mine is couscous, a North African stew that is a standard part of French cuisine.  It is outstanding.  If you see a "couscouserie", the restaurant specializes in it.  (Rouen has a very nice one a couple of blocks east, I think, of the cathedral.)

After several trips to France, I began dabbling in cooking French regional cuisine.  It's very rewarding especially if you begin simply with roast chicken and branch out from there.

For a pleasant, reasonable lunch, I recommend going to a charcuterie (cooked meats).  Pick up some meats or combos (a terrine is kind of like a meatloaf or actual pate, there are often several to pick from - rabbit is delicious), some cheese (there or at a fromagerie), a bagette and something to drink.  Stop at a patisserie for a sweet dessert and find a park or quiet spot for lunch.

In England, the food has improved tremendously, however pubs and Indian restaurants are very dependable.

 

 

Niels

June 17th, 2015 at 7:33 AM ^

Abeno and Abeno2 (there are 2, one near British Museum) does the okinawan pancakes named above. If you haven't tried them I highly recommend them in general. It's really good and pretty cost effective, esp for London.

MDisciple87

June 17th, 2015 at 8:04 AM ^

I never get why people ask these questions there... this is a Michigan sports blog and forum... We might have decent advice, we might not, but there's literally forums out there for every other topic you can think of where members will most certainly have good advice. 

Here, let me help you:

Travel: TripAdvisor

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MBA: GMATClub, Poets & Quants, etc. 

Use ze Google.

MgoTango

June 17th, 2015 at 9:40 AM ^

They are open Sundays (lots of restaurants close on Sunday nights) and they have this giant, communal cheese platter they pass around.

In London, a great local pub is The King and Queen pub in Fitzrovia. No dinner there, but they serve food at lunch.

In both cities, especially if you are going in a group, the restaurants prefer reservations, so try to plan ahead if you can.

Nobody Likes a…

June 17th, 2015 at 10:11 AM ^

In Paris one of the cooler things to do was to go to a semi private supper cloud. Jim Haynes was the one I went to and it was incredible and a fun experience. It is run by an expat who opens his studio on Sundays to the first  60 people who rsvp each week. Its  neat experience.

MaizeNBlueInDC

June 17th, 2015 at 10:47 AM ^

If your group likes Indian food, head to Brick Lane. It is about a 5 minute walk from the Liverpool station and has a wealth of places to choose from. Very reasonable food and very good. They have guys standing in front of their places to try to bring you in so you could probably bargain them against each other to get an even better deal.

Stuck in Ohio

June 17th, 2015 at 10:53 AM ^

two restaurants I enjoyed were Tiddy Dolls (yes that IS the name) and an excellent pub near Kensington Palace called The Swan. They have great bangers and mash

wlubd

June 17th, 2015 at 11:50 AM ^

Wife and I found a pub a few years ago in London near Paddington Station that we really liked called Sir Alexander Fleming. Just off of the main road a few blocks east of there. Nothing fancy but good food/price if you're in that area.

London was a blast, Paris can be entirely avoided if visiting France.

BayWolves

June 17th, 2015 at 12:01 PM ^

Are you kidding? Pretty much everything in France is good and everything in England is mediocre unless it's fish and chips or ale.



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