OT: Dining in Paris & London
About to head over the pond to Paris & London... and I am responsible for finding places to eat for the group. Anyone who has spent time over there that has "a favorite" cafe, eatery or part of town that they like to eat in? Most of our meals, we will be looking for reasonable to low priced food (well... as far as food in big cities is ever reasonable).
London is big, so it depends on where you are and how much you want to move around. But I highly, highly recomend finding your way over to Bourough Market. Wonderful, fresh, foods from many cultures around the world. You can find plenty to eat on site, but also a lot to take with you. It's amazing. And, if you only want to snack at the market, there are some very nice restuarants in that area. Right around the corner, Del Mercato is a very nice italian place that had the most authentic and best tasting pizza that I've had outside Italy.
Mother Mash in London.
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I ate at Gusteau's, they have a fantastic new young chef.
Get Nutella crepes from vendors between the Westin and the Louvre...
if you want to have a great night in London, do a shake, rattle, and stir gin tour, they are fucking amazing. the gf and I went on one and we were the ony americans, which is how you know the tour is good. If you're looking for good curry, and a nice place also, go to Imli Street.
http://shakerattleandstir.co.uk/
Seriously, I just looked up shake, rattle, and stir, it is #5 out of 1,206 nightlife in london on trip advisor, with 69 excellent ratings, 3 very good, and 1 average
LONDON? PARIS? HAHAHAHA YOU ARENT CLOSE TO MY TAX BRACKET
Student tour: people sign up, the travel company pays for you to go lead the rich kids (and some of their parents) around.
The only way I could afford to leave my little corner of the universe.
The River Café
Ottolenghi
Zucca
In Paris:
Guy Savoy
Frenchie
Spring
Just about any reasonable pub will do food. Traditional favorites like bangers and mash or spotted dick are things to try just to say you did. If you don't mind paying a little more Nandos is a great chicken place to go to. In you are looking for really cheap, Greggs is a walk in place that serves pasty (rhymes with nasty) that are good. I would also recommend getting a cherry tart for desert. There are also places around London that do fish and chips for pretty cheep.
You may know this already, but a bit of advice. Showing the back of two fingers, the reverse of a piece sign, is the equivalent of a giving the middle finger. I learned that the hard way.
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A good resource for dining in Paris is Davidlebovitz.com. He's an expat pastry chef who lives in Paris and he has good, non-touristy recommendations. In London, we had good fish and chips at Kerbisher & Malt in Shepherd's Bush (birthplace of Roger Daltrey). Also, the Borough Market is a like a giant high quality food court with something for everyone.
Honestly, don't listen to people here - explore on your own. It's more fun that way. If you have a crappy meal? So what, you're on vacation.
I live in London...'reasonable to low priced' hahahahahaha...Never heard of it.
Dining out is expensive as hell so I rarely do it. But, there are some good markets here (Borough, Broadway, Alexandra Palace during the day and Street Feast at night) and Shoreditch is the new happening, hipster area with lots of restaurants (Dishoom is a popular Indian restaurant that isn't terribly expensive but can overflow with hipsters its open all day so breakfast or lunch works well) and bars..Dalston too which is a bit younger and down market. Both areas are on the same 'Overground' train line.
All in all...expect a bit of sticker shock...have another drink and figure you'll pay it off by the time you take your next summer holiday.
Gaufre Maison
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I don't know if there is much "Britishness" left in the London Food scene as burgers, burritos, BBQ and Street Food are taking over which for an ex-pat isn't a bad thing at all...
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I spent last summer in London for work. Stayed in Guildford. 30 minutes to Waterloo by train. I recommend anything southwest if you can to avoid the costs of London.
I've traveled with friends who have had some French and I usually end up being the spokeswoman without a shred of French.
Get a little guide to the words that appear on menues. Mine was tiny, about 3"x4", and fit in a pocket. (I did it to avoid sweetbreads which the French love.)
Best way to start to a conversation: "Pardon, monsieur, (or madam) I have a problem." (Most speak some English, but do not wish to embarrass themselves. If you use a French word here and there, you have given them permission to speak bad English. They will go out of their way to help, will use whatever English they know and you'll both be laughing at the improv by the end of the conversation. Sign language and good humor work wonders.) BTW,don't shout, they're not hard of hearing.
If you're not sure of what you want to eat, ask the matre d' what is good that day. They'll be very flattered and you will not be disappointed. Stay away from touristy places and American hotels. Menues are usually posted outside.
I love France and have never been disappointed. I rarely opt for expensive meals: the bistros and small family restaurants are usually terrific. A more unusual favorite of mine is couscous, a North African stew that is a standard part of French cuisine. It is outstanding. If you see a "couscouserie", the restaurant specializes in it. (Rouen has a very nice one a couple of blocks east, I think, of the cathedral.)
After several trips to France, I began dabbling in cooking French regional cuisine. It's very rewarding especially if you begin simply with roast chicken and branch out from there.
For a pleasant, reasonable lunch, I recommend going to a charcuterie (cooked meats). Pick up some meats or combos (a terrine is kind of like a meatloaf or actual pate, there are often several to pick from - rabbit is delicious), some cheese (there or at a fromagerie), a bagette and something to drink. Stop at a patisserie for a sweet dessert and find a park or quiet spot for lunch.
In England, the food has improved tremendously, however pubs and Indian restaurants are very dependable.
I never get why people ask these questions there... this is a Michigan sports blog and forum... We might have decent advice, we might not, but there's literally forums out there for every other topic you can think of where members will most certainly have good advice.
Here, let me help you:
Travel: TripAdvisor
Investing: Bogleheads (I'm sure there's others, but that's what I use)
MBA: GMATClub, Poets & Quants, etc.
Use ze Google.
In the 7th arrondissement, a great breakfast place with the BEST hot chocalate you will ever have is Pain Et Chocolat.
They are open Sundays (lots of restaurants close on Sunday nights) and they have this giant, communal cheese platter they pass around.
In London, a great local pub is The King and Queen pub in Fitzrovia. No dinner there, but they serve food at lunch.
In both cities, especially if you are going in a group, the restaurants prefer reservations, so try to plan ahead if you can.
In Paris one of the cooler things to do was to go to a semi private supper cloud. Jim Haynes was the one I went to and it was incredible and a fun experience. It is run by an expat who opens his studio on Sundays to the first 60 people who rsvp each week. Its neat experience.
two restaurants I enjoyed were Tiddy Dolls (yes that IS the name) and an excellent pub near Kensington Palace called The Swan. They have great bangers and mash
Wife and I found a pub a few years ago in London near Paddington Station that we really liked called Sir Alexander Fleming. Just off of the main road a few blocks east of there. Nothing fancy but good food/price if you're in that area.
London was a blast, Paris can be entirely avoided if visiting France.
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