boliver46

June 26th, 2013 at 3:23 PM ^

to work on that pre-game intro dance!!

 

Anything has to be better than his eye-roll skills...

 

LSAClassOf2000

June 26th, 2013 at 3:23 PM ^

The Patriots and the NFL have both made their official statements on the matter as it stands right now (LINK). These both come after Hernandez was also released by New England - indeed, any mention of Hernandez, from what I can see, has been removed from the team site. 

Regarding the release and arrest of Hernandez, the Patriots published this:

“A young man was murdered last week and we extend our sympathies to the family and friends who mourn his loss. Words cannot express the disappointment we feel knowing that one of our players was arrested as a result of this investigation. We realize that law enforcement investigations into this matter are ongoing. We support their efforts and respect the process. At this time, we believe this transaction is simply the right thing to do.”

Don

June 26th, 2013 at 3:23 PM ^

The corollary is that executive-driven organizations, especially smaller ones (small businesses, football teams or families, for example), eventually take on the character of their leader, for better or worse. It's no surprise that OSU football has been such an ethical morass when you consider the two guys—Gee and Tressel—who were at the top of the Ohio State pyramid for the past decade.

Perkis-Size Me

June 26th, 2013 at 3:58 PM ^

Well, have fun rotting in jail for 25 to life, my friend.

Had everything going for you in a world-class organization. Shame that you pissed it all away like that.

BiSB

June 26th, 2013 at 4:12 PM ^

The difference between 1st and 2nd degree murder in Massachusetts:

Murder committed with deliberately premeditated malice aforethought, or with extreme atrocity or cruelty, or in the commission or attempted commission of a crime punishable with death or imprisonment for life, is murder in the first degree. Murder which does not appear to be in the first degree is murder in the second degree.

The standard you'd be looking for for 1st degree murder is "deliberately premeditated malice aforethought," which is hilariously redundant, but basically means that he had the intention of causing death or great bodily harm before he began the commission of the crime. IF the prosecution can show what they claim they can show, then that standard is well within reach.

Vivz

June 26th, 2013 at 4:37 PM ^

Not really clear on what entails premediated, so can some lawyer type explain it to me?

If I had a ccw and see someone i'm mad at and decide I want to kill them it would take a second to pull out a gun and shoot them. Is that premeditated "enough?" 

Or more likely in this case if they were in a fight at a club and they got back to his house and sometime during the night he decided to shoot him once back in his house is that now premeditated?
 

BiSB

June 26th, 2013 at 4:43 PM ^

There's no exact time limit. Yelling "I'm going to kill you!" and then charging a dude can be enough. A guy who stews for hours and then goes to someone's house to confront him and ends up killing him may not.

For this case, though, IF we believe the prosecution, he intended to kill the dude before he even picked him up. That's plenty.

Vivz

June 26th, 2013 at 5:59 PM ^

I guess I understand the lack of a time factor, but it seems to be a bit of legalese relating to how bad a crime is, how much evidince there actually is. Am I missing something as to what goes through the mind of a prosecutor trying to decide which charge to use?

BiSB

June 26th, 2013 at 10:16 PM ^

They charge the "highest" crime on which they feel pretty comfortable they can get a conviction.

Another thing that plays into this is lesser included offenses. If they charge someone with 1st degree murder, they can allow the jury to consider 2nd degree murder too. The risk is that juries sometimes tend to split the difference and convict on the lower charge. The reason the Casey Anthony prosecutors goofed was that they overreached on the charge (1st degree murder, I think), couldn't prove the additional stuff you need to prove for those charges, and didn't let the jury consider manslaughter, etc.

XM - Mt 1822

June 27th, 2013 at 8:15 AM ^

will automatically allow for the instruction on lesser included offenses, and there are strategic choices to be made by the defendant as to even whether he would want that.   by way of example, if the case is a 'whodunnit', then the defense will usually not ask for or argue for a lesser.   i'll guess the defense in this case will be a ' SODDI' defense - 'Some Other Dude Did It', meaning one of the other guys in the car and hernandez will say how horrofied he was when his friend did the 'carlo rizzi' with the deceased. 

robmorren2

June 26th, 2013 at 4:16 PM ^

Hernandez should have called Marsellus and had him send The Wolf. Apparently Aaron wasn't capable of properly covering up a murder by himself.

True Blue Grit

June 26th, 2013 at 4:20 PM ^

reverting back to hanging around with the same bad people he did growing up and reverting to making very awful decisions.  I've always thought you see this pattern frequently because young guys lose the structure and discipline they had in their college program (most likely anyway) where NCAA and program rules and lack of money at least controlled what they did.  Then, when they all of sudden get big amounts of money and the coaches assume they are adults and stay out of their personal lives, things go south.   Why do many guys NOT do this?  It comes down to upbringing, the environment they grew up in, the people they surrounded themselves with and other factors. 

UMgradMSUdad

June 26th, 2013 at 5:12 PM ^

Obviously we're still missing a lot of details on the case, but I wonder if he will be allowed bail.  With the allegations of murder, obstruction of justice, and the potential that this might be linked in some way to another case he's involved in, those moments before he was marched out of his house in handcuffs might be the last moments of freedom he'll ever see.

BILG

June 26th, 2013 at 6:10 PM ^

Beyond the obvious, you're an idiot, you had a sweet life of fortune and opportunity and pissed it all away, I have to say this is one of the worst executed attempts at a premeditated murder I have ever heard of. Trying to hide the tape after the fact, texting about the crime, leaving the body 1 mile away, having cars rented under your name. This guy is just really bad at being evil. Had he been disciplined for his earlier shenanigans in life he probably would have had no better moral compass, but would have at least understood the concept of choice and consequence. Probably wouldn't have felt as untouchable and would have at least put some thought into committing such a crime. Barney Fife could open and shut this case. Perhaps he was on something when he did this because the disorganization and execution were beyond idiotic. Again, given his history I would not suggest the substance caused his lack of humanity, instead just his stupidity.

Victor Hale II

June 26th, 2013 at 7:29 PM ^

Dude is a thug, plain and simple. This is what thugs do when "disrespected", if they've been cheated, or if they smell the proverbial "rat". Many of these guys have lots of illegal money; thus, how much money they make has nothing to do with it, and consequences aren't considered. It's all about the code by which they abide. I've said it before, but I work with violent felons daily. I hear their stories and rationale behind why they did what they did (felonious assault, murder, etc). It usually amounts to nothing more than things related to what I stated above - money, possessions (including women), perceived disrespect, and snitches. Think of yourself and what you'd consider your breaking point(s). Now, think of how you were raised or what life experience you've had that has made this/these your breaking point(s). Also, think of how you'd react to "solve" or "avenge" whatever the problem was. For most of us, it'd be something like "if anyone laid a hand on my wife/kid, I'd physically defend them however I could". Now, for violent convicts and thugs like Hernandez, it's pretty cut and dried. They have many more "breaking points", and their solutions are often excessive violence including murder. This is what they've been taught and are simply products of their environments. Sorry if tl;dr!

michelin

June 26th, 2013 at 7:37 PM ^

suggests that the recent incident was not an isolated one and was preceded by several others under Meyer at Fla--also that the school's legal team was quite active in trying to keep the eligible players out of jail.

For example, Hernandez was arrested .."after an altercation at local campus hangout known as The Swamp. (Then, he) received deferred prosecution.”  (In 2007 after Fla lost to Auburn, he also) was “questioned, along with three other Gator football players, about an incident in which two of the other Gators were critically injured, one of them being shot in the head.”  “Hernandez declined to discuss the case with reporters back then and was never charged with any crime.   Hernandez was one of many of Urban's Gators who were found to be using drugs.  Urban once suspended Hernandez for a game for such use.

Hernandez also was but one of 25 of Urban’s Gators, who “amassed  a’ long list of (other) criminal charges and investigations.  The problems were so extensive that “the school’s attorney became known as the team's "defensive MVP" for his work in handling the..cases.”

After taking the Ohio State job in November 2011, Meyer said that the arrests during his time at Florida were "exaggerated."

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/ncaaf-dr-saturday/report-aaron-hernandez-…

michelin

June 26th, 2013 at 7:59 PM ^

When he accepted the Ohio job, Meyers said: "We ran into some bumps in the road at the University of Florida.  Does that mean we had bad kids.  I'll fight that foreever.  No, absolutely not, we did not have bad kids."

"Of course, Meyer's famously lax discipline wasn't just noticed by media, fans, and opposing coaches.

It was also noted by his former star cornerback Janoris Jenkins, who was tossed off the team by Meyer's replacement, Will Muschamp.

"No doubt, if Coach Meyer were still coaching, I'd still be playing for the Gators," says Jenkins, whom Muschamp booted from UF's team after being arrested twice for possession of marijuana during the offseason. "Coach Meyer knows what it takes to win."

http://outkickthecoverage.com/aaron-hernandez-charged-with-first-degree…

seksdesk

June 26th, 2013 at 11:30 PM ^

video the camera zooms to his hands and you can see a red tattoo that says "BLOOD." I immediately interpreted that as his way of saying i've got blood on my hands.

When you commit a crime like murder there are 50 ways you can screw up. If you can think of 25 then you're a genius...and AH, you ain't no genius!

WolverineFanatic6

June 26th, 2013 at 11:39 PM ^

7 yr 40 million dollars . Set for life. Nice house. Nice cars. How in the world does someone choose to allegedly commit an execution style murder when he has all these things going on for him as well as a 7 month old daughter?? Hopefully he doesn't cheat justice for being a famous football player.

JamieH

June 26th, 2013 at 11:56 PM ^

What I really don't get, is between the endless episodes of CSI, Law & Order, NCIS and other crime dramas that seem to run incessantly on TV, how the hell did he ever think he was going to pull this off and get away with it?  Did he just never ever watch TV?  I mean, on TV the bad guys pull off hits that are 10 times more devious than this and they still get hunted down like dogs.  Hernandez plan was really to rent a car (in his own name?  really?), text message his buddy to meet up in the middle of the night from his OWN PHONE (not a pre-paid throw away, but his OWN PHONE!!!)  plug 5 bullets it him, then dump him 1 mile from his house, all the while getting caught on video from his own surveillance camera?  

Is this the stupidest hit in human history?  I mean the cops didn't really have to connect the dots.  He put a freakin' neon sign on himself saying "I did it!"  He might as well have just live-blogged it on the internet.

 

JamieH

June 27th, 2013 at 1:58 AM ^

on him being stupid enough to use his own gun for the hit.  Think they'll be able to match ballistics on the body to a gun he owns?  Or maybe the fact that the cops were looking in that pond near his house meant that he actually managed to realize he needed to dump the murder weapon somewhere. 

The whole smashing of the security system cracks me up though.  It was most likely a digital recording system, meaning that if the files were stored locally all he needed to do was do a deep format on the hard drive that was recording everything.  You could probably even claim that was due to a hard-drive failure.  Of course, if anything was being uploaded to his security company he was already screwed and it didn't matter what he did.

Not that I WANTED him to get away with it, but just the idea that smashing the security system both made him look incredibly guilty AND was rather useless at the same time cracks me up for some reason.