OT - 49ers to be the second team to go 0-16?
For 2015 what are the chances of the 49ers going 0-16? They have lost a ton of players, their core coaching staff and may have some chemistry issues within the team.
Also some intangibles:
-Jed York being a meddlesome joke of an owner this has got to factor in
-Since 0-16 is a once in a lifetime thing and we've just seen the Lions do it a few years back...it is more likely to happen again! It's weird but freaky statistical things happen like that in close proximity
-Spent a fortune on a new stadium which seems to dictate a horrible season if karma has it's way
-Lost more players in 1 year than pretty much...anybody? I think I read a stat that said these guys had nearly 40% of the 49er playtime
So yeah they picked up some good guys but can a position coach yes man (Tomsula) that nobody wanted win in the NFL?
I'm seriously thinking of betting on lightning hitting twice @ 0-16 for the 49ers this year.
No. Just let it go. We got our guy.
August 3rd, 2015 at 10:10 PM ^
You forgot to mention that he should stop drinking and go to bed.
... to no man.
RCMB if this happens: "Hairball left that program on bad terms and in shambles! What a joke! When he pisses everyone off up at scUM and he gets fired, then the same thing is gonna happen their! 0-12 in 2018 lolllllll"
Props for the intentionally incorrect grammar
I see what you did there.
Would you care if same moves had been made by the Jaguars with a different HC? We've got fans thinking UM is going 10-2/11-1, let's not bait the mockery hook
Why don't you take the next few plays off, bud.
29 more days, 29 more days...
debacle than the current mess in SF. I would take your bet. They will beat somebody. Maybe even the Lions
I'm not sure if this poster actually remembers the 0-16 Lions. They were a special bad. They had a wide receiver, a good kicker, and I think a rookie Cliff Avril at DE. The rest of that team were career backups and undrafted free agents or low draft picks. Are best quarterback was a guy we signed off the street in the middle of the season. The 49ers lost a lot of talent, but they still have an OK to solid QB that started a Super Bowl. They also had some promising drafts the last two years of Harbaugh.
Yeah the lions were terrible for a decade before hand, the 49ers have been part of the NFC elite for the last couple of seasons. They have significantly more talent to start with than the lions had that season even with the loss they experienced. The lions still almost managed to win a few of their games despite the talent gap. You need to have everything go wrong to go 0-16.
You do realize that the 49ers are favorites in week one of the NFL season right?
Uh, right. Because we all know that the favorite ALWAYS wins...
The personnel losses plus Tomsula are significant, but I the Vikes are trending upwards. I see them supplanting the Lions this year. A year under Bridgewater, AD coming back, and that nasty defense is going to make things rough for the Niners.(and many other teams)
Yeah, always supplant the pitiful 11-5 Lions. Despite how bad they were years ago, this Lions team is pretty good.
They proceeded to go 4-12 and 7-9.
The defense should still be one of the best in the NFL. Going from Suh to Ngata isn't much of a downgrade
August 3rd, 2015 at 10:12 PM ^
Completely agree. Teryl Austin is the one we needed to keep. Suh is an outstanding lineman, but our scoring defense was ranked 19th, 23rd, 27th, and 15th with Suh until Austin came along and brought the whole unit up to 3rd.
And the Vikings have been consistently good? Nope. With a very inconsistent offense they were still 4 games better last year and 3-1 against the Vikings in the last 2 years.
Of course you could be right, it just wrinkles my beard how people hate the Lions. They suck whether they win 11 games and get cheated out of a playoff win or they win 4 games. But, you could be right.
they could easily go 11-5.
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This isn't going to happen. They'll have a chance to beat the Vikings...in the first game.
Not going to happen...they aren't the Lions.
no way. too much talent. it's almost impossible to go 0-16. even that god awful, talentless lions team needed to brutal PI call against minnesota to do it.
But SF is projected to have one of the toughest schedules in the NFL this year. Part of this is that their division is one of the best in the NFL, but they also drew the AFC North and NFC North this year which were both pretty good last year in the NFL.
Would you actually make a bet on something because, "Spent a fortune on a new stadium which seems to dictate a horrible season if karma has it's way"?
If that statement hasn't persuaded you to bet this than nothing will.
this thread sucks
I don't wish a losing season on any fanbase. Even OSU. I would rather OSU come to us undefeated every year as we mop the turf with their sorry @$$! Watching a team lose such a hopefull season to your favorite team is much more gratifying....
I hope OSU loses every game they ever play. Same for MSU and The White Sox.
The Browns have every terrible thing that can happen to a team happen every season and still don't go 0-16
The NFL has been pretty good about structuring itself to promote a certain level of parity between all its teams. The Lions were a special kind of bad to go winless in that environment.
There isn't a chance the 49ers go 0-16. They underachieved last year at 7-9 and while Kap had a down year last year he alone is worth 3 wins. The Lions 0-16 season was mostly dictated by awful, horrendous, unforgivable Quarterback play.
No it wasn't. That entire team was terrible. Offense, defense, special teams, coaches, concessions, coaches moms.
It was 8-8 not 7-9.
Yeah you're right, always remembered the season as 7-9 because I expected them to lose week 17 against Arizona.
I sure hope so. It would just show how badly they fucked up by not making it work with Jim. I am glad they did what they did, of course.
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I would say there a few teams that are quite a bit worse than the niners right now . Although they could be up for the fictional award of "worst offseason of all time"
Since 0-16 is a once in a lifetime thing and we've just seen the Lions do it a few years back...it is more likely to happen again! It's weird but freaky statistical things happen like that in close proximity
Talent and coaching come into play here, and the Lions were a special kind of awful during that, oh, shall we say "perfect season that no one wants" indeed. Despite the numerous ominous changes in the 49ers roster, staff and so forth, I can't foresee them being quite that terrible. "Not good" seems likely perhaps, but even most such teams normally manage to fight a few out and end up on top.
from the OP about how "freaky statistical things happen like that in close proximity," I have a bone to pick with this reasoning process.
People always seem ready to misconstrue clustering of random phenomena, but "random" does not mean "regularly distributed." A series of coin flips resulting in a regular alternation of heads and tails is just as unlikely as is all heads or all tails; any of these is a description of a discrete case out of the 2^N potential outcomes of N number of coin flips. The outcome of any coin flip has no bearing on the outcome of that following.
By the same token, 0-16 happening a few years back has by itself no bearing on whether it happens again now. Commentary on clustering of random phenomena with expressions implying a narrative of causation, such as "we're hot" or "we're due," is evidence of people's fundamental discomfort with or incomprehension of randomness, clustering or no clustering.
No one gives a shit about the 49ers (unless you happen to be a 49ers fan). The 49ers' situation has nothing to do with Michigan. They are not a rival of Michigan, so let's not conjure up a rivalry just because they happen to be the former employer of our current coach.
Let it go.
I go to bed every night and thank 8lb. 6oz. baby Jesus for Jed York. If I knew his home address I would send him a nice fruit basket.
Jesus, I mean. Not Jed York.