OT: 10 ND players to miss this week's game due to COVID precautions
September 21st, 2020 at 1:22 PM ^
https://twitter.com/NDFootballPR/status/1308069726631886849/photo/1
Note: sounds like the positive players were not important players as they didn't play last week
No word on who the contact tracing cases are
September 21st, 2020 at 1:38 PM ^
So basically what you are saying is they were probably participating in a locker room circle jerk during the last game?
September 21st, 2020 at 2:48 PM ^
Yes, but they were wearing masks, so it was all safe.
September 21st, 2020 at 3:49 PM ^
But were they wearing gloves?
September 21st, 2020 at 4:13 PM ^
I think the fecal plume got them in the eyes.
September 21st, 2020 at 4:55 PM ^
but were the masks rated for seminal fluids?
September 21st, 2020 at 4:54 PM ^
With Lou Holtz giving the pep talk...
September 21st, 2020 at 5:01 PM ^
Meanwhile if you test positive the B1G says you're out 21 days. This whole thing is a cluster.
September 21st, 2020 at 5:32 PM ^
First 14 days
then 10
now 21
when will it end?
Rhetorical question since no one knows the answer
September 21st, 2020 at 7:56 PM ^
Nevermind
September 21st, 2020 at 1:36 PM ^
I have a theory on this that football and particularly the contact aspect of playing football helps to prevent covid-19. The reason being that as soon as the covid jumps on to the player... And he gets hit really hard by another player the sheer force of the contact knocks the coronavirus off of him. The CDC won't hear me out though.
September 21st, 2020 at 2:03 PM ^
That's a great theory!
Also love the one where you can have a drink at a bar if you have food but no bueno if you don't have food. Covid HATES food and will avoid you like the plague...err...Covid
September 21st, 2020 at 2:49 PM ^
I think they tried that in NYC.
September 21st, 2020 at 2:14 PM ^
Just like fleas and mosquitoes....
September 21st, 2020 at 2:22 PM ^
The reason being that as soon as the covid jumps on to the player... And he gets hit really hard by another player the sheer force of the contact knocks the coronavirus off of him.
Well then here's hoping that Scott Frost's teams continue to always out hit their opponents.
September 21st, 2020 at 4:13 PM ^
The president would like to hire you to beat the shit out of every positive person with a baseball bat. Or hit them with your car. I see bigly things in your covfefe future.
September 21st, 2020 at 1:38 PM ^
I don't know man, I must be the biggest skeptic, but that just doesn't even seem possible. I just know there will be controversy this year with this testing and contact tracing and who exactly is being held out. It should be done by independent labs
September 21st, 2020 at 1:44 PM ^
And this is why the B1G will be better off than other conferences with their daily testing. That will essentially remove the need for contact tracing.
Depending on your view, the B1G may have jumped the gun postponing the season...But in doing so, they have become the conference that is in the best position to handle positive tests and outbreaks
September 21st, 2020 at 2:01 PM ^
I think the B1G's biggest mistake was in PR and communication (and for having a crappy plan in place when the cancellation vote happened). But even if every single fan was mailed, emailed, and texted a 100 page reason for why they decided what they did, backed up science, experts and God himself - that wouldn't have been enough for the "the ACC and Big 12 are playing! High school teams are playing! How many have been hospitalized? They're young people!" crowd.
That crowd thinks the B1G is back 100% because other conferences have been playing and little to do with of rapid, reliable testing.
September 21st, 2020 at 2:18 PM ^
Spot on! And especially when there likely was no single absolute indisputable reason, the Big Ten didn't want to have to spend its time arguing over the details with this group of people.
September 21st, 2020 at 3:20 PM ^
It's not due to rapid testing suddenly being available. Unless if you mean by suddenly April 2020.
I could go up to Nashville to American Family Care and get results in under 15 minutes since April. Just have to have symptoms and sign up for an appointment.
September 21st, 2020 at 3:49 PM ^
Don't forget that The University of Illinois developed their own rapid test that was approved in August. Also that there are dozens of other ways the big ten could have gotten tests back in a timely manner.
September 21st, 2020 at 5:49 PM ^
They are back because they screwed up and needed an excuse to backpedal. Daily testing gave them that excuse. They didn't care about the kids before and they still don't. The original decision was about legal liability and now they believe the liability is greatly reduced due to other conferences playing.
September 21st, 2020 at 3:22 PM ^
And this is all well and good in conference, if everyone complies, but what if there is a bowl season and the playoffs. Do you trust that teams will hold out "important players" if they test positive? I'm still not sure if this is the honor system. How do we know if OSU, or Minny, or PSU is being totally upfront with who tests positive?
September 21st, 2020 at 1:50 PM ^
No kidding, wouldn't be surprising if ND goes the LSU covid party route to get it all out of the way in the next two weeks.
September 21st, 2020 at 1:53 PM ^
With Notre Dame's Charmin-soft schedule (the non-Clemson portion), they could probably sit most of their starters this season and win the majority of their games anyway.
September 21st, 2020 at 3:25 PM ^
Had they been playing Clemson this week, I can't decide if ND would have held back few players or the whole team.
September 21st, 2020 at 5:09 PM ^
Whole team. That's not a cynical response, its just how ND has been handling things since forever.
Michigan beating us? Cancel the series. Need a conference? *Join* the weakest P5. Etc.
September 21st, 2020 at 1:56 PM ^
Is 10 days enough? At the very least it should be 10 days following the last fever. Isn't the BIG requiring 21 days for all positive tests? How can there be that big of a discrepancy?
September 21st, 2020 at 2:05 PM ^
Catholics only need to quarantine for 10 days. Everyone knows that.
September 21st, 2020 at 2:06 PM ^
This is part of the reason why some conferences didn't want to play OOC games unless the NCAA mandated protocols... which they didn't because the NCAA sucks. If UVA and Maryland plays and UVA holds guys out for 10 days while Maryland holds guys out for 21, Maryland is screwed.
I haven't looked at the info in recent weeks, but the initial timeline for people to show symptoms/be contagious is around 10 days give or take 3 or 4 I think with some cases lasting as long as 20 days. The asymptomatic spread of covid 19 isn't high, but you don't know if you're asymptomatic or pre-symptomatic until you test negative and show no symptoms. Basically, you're not contagious until you are and there is no way of knowing that upfront.
The 10 day difference is a lot, but I think it has to do with us not knowing how long people are contagious and when to start the clock from the first positive test to the point where they are no longer contagious.
September 21st, 2020 at 2:17 PM ^
10 days is the minimum per the CDC guidelines. It's also presuming that the positive tests are asymptomatic or are at least asymptomatic through the majority of that period of time. If a player/person is symptomatic at the 10 day mark it will be a clinical/judgment call
September 21st, 2020 at 2:36 PM ^
And we all know how "on the up and up" CDC guidelines are these days.
Watch that "minimum" go down the closer we get to the meat of SEC season.
September 21st, 2020 at 3:09 PM ^
Completely agree. It is almost sad what has happened with them over the past 6 months. At this point, personally, I essentially will only trust what the NIH puts out. The problem is that we still follow CDC guidelines from an employment perspective.
September 21st, 2020 at 2:41 PM ^
That doesn't seem to far out of the normal. In the military we use a 14 day quarantine period (For positives and first person contacts), and you have to be symptom free for 72 hours. So it could be longer than 14 if that individual is still showing symptoms, but not shorter.
September 21st, 2020 at 2:51 PM ^
Thank you for your service. Which branch of the military?
September 21st, 2020 at 2:58 PM ^
Thank you for the support. Marine Corps, almost 17 years.
September 21st, 2020 at 4:26 PM ^
That's awesome, thank you!
September 21st, 2020 at 5:21 PM ^
:-) well done.
September 21st, 2020 at 7:15 PM ^
Great respect for you and all those who serve. Especially Marines since my Dad was in the Pacific.
September 21st, 2020 at 11:45 PM ^
They have completely different objectives
I believe the 10 or 14 days is for quarantining and minimizing risk of spread. The 21 days was created by the Big10 to monitor the patient long enough to screen for myocarditis risk. If the rigorous testing protocol for myocarditis is negative after 21 days they can return to play. If positive they are not returning.
September 22nd, 2020 at 12:48 PM ^
I am a school teacher and most are using a 14 quarantine for contact but no symptoms or 10 day quarantine for positive tests after symptoms are gone. BIG10 seems a bit much.
September 21st, 2020 at 2:08 PM ^
The likelihood that only unimportant players would contract COVID-19 seems low, but I'm sure it's just a happy coincidence.
September 21st, 2020 at 2:34 PM ^
maybe, just maybe, those guys know they're not gonna play, and they party just a little harder.
but yeah, smells fishy
September 21st, 2020 at 2:52 PM ^
We'll know for certain it ND's starters are coughing up lungs on the sidelines during a game.
September 21st, 2020 at 3:31 PM ^
Could be, but I've been to South Bend and finding places for "fun" is a difficult proposition regardless of your status on the depth chart. It would be hard for the starters to not run into some of these diseased party animals.
September 21st, 2020 at 2:16 PM ^
Isn't this good news? In that they are doing the requisite amount of testing, holding out people when needed, and being as transparent as possible.
September 21st, 2020 at 2:20 PM ^
To hell with Notre Dame, including these 10 players, the other players, the students, alumni - and as always - Brian Kelly.
Hope they get their asses handed to them in the weak ACC this year.