October 9th, 2022 at 3:55 PM ^
I still have no idea how good PSU is. They struggled against NW, their game against CMU was close until the 2nd half, and I'm not convinced Auburn is remotely good and that is their marquee win. Clifford is still kinda an enigma at QB, but they seem to have a good running game and their defense seems to be solid
October 9th, 2022 at 4:45 PM ^
I’m with you. I wouldn’t pay too much attention to the NW game. It poured rain nearly the entire first half and the field was absolutely soaked. PSU had five turnovers, four fumbles. NW had three as well. NW also dropped a couple of easy picks and their QB slipped on 4th and goal or he would’ve scored a td, so who knows how that game plays out in good weather.
I still don’t think PSU is a top ten team, but I’m not sure I can name ten teams that look like top ten teams. Everyone is beatable this year. We might need a FG at the end of the game to win or we could blast them by 30. I have no idea.
October 9th, 2022 at 7:20 PM ^
Frames is the $70 million coaching version of the golf saying "never up, never in."
October 9th, 2022 at 4:50 PM ^
I’ll get negged but I’m not sure how good Michigan is at this point either
October 9th, 2022 at 6:13 PM ^
Struggled with Maryland and had a pretty abysmal first half yesterday, so, yeah.
October 9th, 2022 at 6:25 PM ^
The Iowa QB played inconceivably bad in the 1st half, missing wide open receivers by more than the length of the broad side of a barn, or that game would have been closer.
October 9th, 2022 at 6:38 PM ^
That is not “inconceivably bad.” In fact, he had one of his better games of the season against Michigan, for whatever that’s worth.
I’ll give you some context. I listened to some of the Iowa / Illinois game last night, wherein the Iowa broadcaster opined that Petras “looked pretty sharp” because of his halftime stats: 10/19 for 126 yards passing. He had a 97 passer rating, which was called “pretty good.” (On the NFL scale, it absolutely is. On the NCAA scale, < 100 is pretty bad for a P5 QB).
The standards at Iowa have been lowered dramatically; defenses really can game plan for Petras not being able to make throws. Petras is one of the poorest passers in the Big Ten. At no point in the Iowa game was the outcome in doubt.
October 9th, 2022 at 6:46 PM ^
I don't know, I just know what I saw. One play, there was a TE going up the seam, uncovered, and the ball must have been 6 feet over his head. A good pass, and the TE may have got to the 10, or farther. Iowa's offense is ranked #131 out of 131. Michigan really should have blew them off the field. Hopefully this Saturday we'll get a game with no doubts in the air.
October 9th, 2022 at 7:13 PM ^
And part of Iowa's #131 offensive ranking is because Spencer Petras isn't good. If Petras routinely hit wide open receivers then they would have a better offense and a better ranking. That's kind of how it works.
October 9th, 2022 at 7:27 PM ^
Yeah, the passing game is bad. The running game is at #127 in the Nation. Bad too.
October 9th, 2022 at 7:28 PM ^
correction: #121
ahh, edit:
Correction again,
Pass is at #121
Rush is at #127
i.e., it's possible the run game is worse than the pass game. either way, they need some new offensive coaches.
October 10th, 2022 at 8:44 AM ^
Michigan's LBs need to learn not to cover grass. Until then, every team that can run the mesh makes me increasingly nervous.
October 9th, 2022 at 7:27 PM ^
That is the Iowa QB though. It's how he plays ALL THE TIME. It's not like we got lucky and the game should've been closer. And Iowa's defense is really good. They totally bottled up a good Illinois team on the road.
October 9th, 2022 at 6:42 PM ^
Covered against iowa and won the second half against indiana 21-0 -- still only one point short of the spread with that abysmal first half.
Yes if we play two halves like that one we lose but you can say that about any unfefeated team and their worst half of the season.
October 9th, 2022 at 7:33 PM ^
* a half during which a coach had a medical emergency.
October 9th, 2022 at 7:05 PM ^
By that standard, why is Georgia #1? They struggled against Mizzou who last again yesterday I believe. Transitive property doesn't apply.
October 9th, 2022 at 6:47 PM ^
I feel like, well, it's largely dependant on scheme. The players are certainly capable of going off, but at times it feels like they're playing with one arm behind their backs, ie: attacking the outside early against Indiana, who live on tempo and wr screens, followed by stacking boxes later, instead of beating them up in the middle early and wearing them out, then attacking outside to effect.
October 9th, 2022 at 5:36 PM ^
Their new DC definitely favors a more blitz happy approach.
October 9th, 2022 at 6:47 PM ^
Indiana was good prep in that regard.
October 9th, 2022 at 3:58 PM ^
How is Utah favored against USC? Are the odds still based on week 1 or something?
October 9th, 2022 at 4:05 PM ^
Oklahoma being a 9-point favorite over Kansas is also head scratching. OU has been absolute shit for a month now.
October 9th, 2022 at 4:59 PM ^
Venables is a good coach. OU got robbed with first time transers
October 9th, 2022 at 8:36 PM ^
And that second sentence won't be getting rectified anytime soon, so doesn't really counter the point made in the post you responded to
October 9th, 2022 at 7:22 PM ^
Agree. I pulled up OU's record. They might win but that spread leans on tradition more than recency.
October 9th, 2022 at 8:04 PM ^
Kansas +9 certainly looks like a gimme. But what I've learned over 20 years of sports gambling is don't assume any line is a gimme.
October 10th, 2022 at 8:47 AM ^
Kansas starting QB was injured on Saturday. Backup played well vs TCU but if Oklahoma gets their starter back I could see it.
October 9th, 2022 at 4:07 PM ^
USC's down-to-down numbers suggest they aren't a top 10 team, particularly on defense, where they have a hugely favorable turnover margin which isn't sustainable. USC also won their road game at Oregon St by 3, a team Utah beat by 26. Utah at home implies these teams are about even at a neutral site.
October 9th, 2022 at 8:18 PM ^
USC's defense, especially run defense is abysmal. If Utah doesn't turn the ball over I expect them to beat USC.
October 9th, 2022 at 3:59 PM ^
If Bryce Young is out, Bama loses to Tennessee. They escaped at home yesterday but will not on the road
October 9th, 2022 at 4:46 PM ^
Even with Young, I would take the fighting Dreamsicles at that spread point (+8). If Young doesn't play or is limited, I think UT wins straight up as Bama has looked pretty mediocre against teams with a pulse this season.
October 9th, 2022 at 6:10 PM ^
Agree and all of the talk has been about Alabama, OSU, UM, etc......on this board but the forgotten team is Tennessee. I've watched them play and, believe me, they're legit. A win this week against Alabama and they'll definitely shoot up into the top 2 or 3 just because of who they just beat
October 9th, 2022 at 6:16 PM ^
Legit….? I think they’re good, but they needed OT to beat a bad Pitt team…
I’ll still take Vols with the points (down to 7.5 now)
October 10th, 2022 at 8:56 AM ^
Aren't teams able to improve through the season? I saw UTenn and Floriduh playiing earlier this season and neither team looked very good. But after seeing UTenn some yesterday, they have definitely improved since then. They're a good team.
October 9th, 2022 at 7:25 PM ^
Yes, it will be interesting.
October 9th, 2022 at 7:42 PM ^
Upper tier SEC teams and Clemson are all balancing on a razors edge and have been for years.
A and M
Texas
Mizzou
Wake Forest
Pittsburgh
5 plays and and its one game elimination for all of them. Now they all still have a mulligan. Its tiresome.
5-0 in 50/50 games.
October 9th, 2022 at 8:37 PM ^
This Tennessee reminds me of one of our teams with Shea. The team gets on a roll and gains some momentum so the hype seems real. They get to a team that exposes some weaknesses and finish the year with 2-3 losses.
October 9th, 2022 at 8:38 PM ^
Legit? Because they beat Florida and LSU? Pump the breaks a bit.
October 9th, 2022 at 4:09 PM ^
Now is the time to bet against Illinois. DeVito isn't amazing or anything, but Arthur Sitkowski at QB is a huge downgrade
October 10th, 2022 at 8:57 AM ^
How long will DeVito be out? I didn't see the injury and don't know what it is...
October 9th, 2022 at 4:12 PM ^
We'll need to have 60 minutes of the type of football played in the final 30 minutes against IU. If our guys can do that, they'll roll!
Roman Wilson is out of concussion protocol which means he should be practicing all this week and be ready for Saturday. Donovan was off a little against IU so we'll need his A-Game and if so, the offense will be in good shape. JJ needs to be the best QB on the field.
I'd love to see our pass rush against Clifford. They need to hurry him and sack him. One or two INTs would be great. (Just my wish list here)
October 10th, 2022 at 8:59 AM ^
"Donovan was off a little against IU..."
Did you see him on the sidelines during/after Coach Hart's collapse? Dude was seriously affected by that. I'll forgive him being 'off' a little in that game.
October 9th, 2022 at 4:15 PM ^
I was figuring something closer to 11-12 given PSUs recent general history in Ann Arbor. The 2018 game started at 10.5 and ended at 13.5.
Over/under for Saturday is 51.5. At a first pass, that feels high.
October 9th, 2022 at 5:11 PM ^
Agreed...I don't see 50 points being scored. I honestly thought -7 was high but it is in Ann Arbor. Maybe you'll be right but I don't see this climbing to double digits (well, I should say I sure as hell wouldn't bet anything like -10.5).
October 9th, 2022 at 5:27 PM ^
Clifford is a solid QB and he's like 34 years old, but not sure they can protect him. Get to him early and he'll start getting happy feet like any QB. If he gets in rhythm he can be a problem.
Also....don't let him get cheap yards on scrambles...he's very crafty.
October 9th, 2022 at 7:34 PM ^
Clifford is one tough old bird. I like the guy just b/c of that aspect of his game.
October 9th, 2022 at 4:15 PM ^
I never bet on 18 - 22 YO, but these look tasty
Tenn plus 8 points
Kansas plus 9 points and most of all....
Wisconson minus 4 at Staae
October 9th, 2022 at 4:49 PM ^
Just a warning…I agree with you on all three and I suck at sports betting. I did get two out of three right yesterday, so maybe I’m getting better.
October 9th, 2022 at 4:25 PM ^
Seems like a bigger spread than I’d have thought.
October 9th, 2022 at 4:50 PM ^
Seems that way to me too.
October 9th, 2022 at 5:00 PM ^