Notre Dame won't be able to get a bye in playoff expansion
While I prefer 8 to 12, the fact that the 4 byes go to conference champs instead of top 4 ranked definitely helps. So ND goes ACC full time?
So I guess the part of Indiana, which is on the NW side of the state near Chicago must be on the Atlantic, amirite! Fuck Notre Dame forever!
/I am aware, but not fully aware, that all conferences are not geographically aligned.
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I sure hope nobody goes to that school to major in Geography.
Besides, why should any special favors be bestowed upon a school with 1) a french name AND 2) that sports a nickname celebrating inebriated belligerent natives of Ireland, when it comes to deciding the championship of a totally American sport.
'Murica!
LOL, you forgot to mention - 3) where their mascot is a Leprechaun all decked out in the color green!
In all seriousness, I can't figure out why the Fighting Irish aren't facing the same PC backlash that the Redskins, Indians, etc are facing.
Because Marketing. Everyone who is Irish fucking loves Notre Dame. If all of the Native Americans in the US were die hard Redskins fans, they'd still be the Redskins too.
i think you also have to look at who is naming the mascot.
white folks naming a school mascot after a subgroup of white folks (although, i acknowledge the irish weren't always considered white) is not exactly a sign of a power dynamic. plus, is there anything white people love more than claiming to be irish? i know my white half loved it when i was younger.
but white folks naming a team after a people group they nearly eradicated? yikes.
i think i'd amend your last statement to say "if all of the native americans in the US were responsible for naming the redskins, they'd still be the redskins too"
Maybe those from Dublin, but not quite so much in Belfast.
Plus, I hate when people are told to "amend" their thoughts. Really?
Among other reasons, it's because the US isn't built on the displacement and settling of land occupied by the Irish.
Personally, I'd prefer ND in the B1G. It makes more sense to have ND join the B1G and ship Maryland to the ACC. Why MD instead of Rutgers? Because no other major conference would be stupid enough to take a program not good enough for Conference USA just to break into the NYC TV market. MD going home to the ACC renews their rivalries with UVA and Duke.
I agree with this. Unfortunately it makes too much sense to ever happen.
Also, for all the excitement in the media, I doubt that a system that gives Alabama, Ohio state, Clemson and Oklahoma a first round bye will really change much in terms of who gets to the final four or two. This whole things seems to be a way to get more money from what would otherwise be today’s bowl games. March Madness football version this is not.
Letting Michigan and others have camps without restriction around the country would have a bigger impact on spreading the talent around. Again, we know that won’t happen.
Eventually, we'll get to a 16-team model. March Madness had byes for the top seed during a period where they went from 32 unseeded teams in 1977 to 64 teams in 1985.
For those interested in a little state of Michigan hoops history, check out our Sweet Sixteen opponent that year (LINK).
I agree to - been talking about this Nebraska, Rutgers and Maryland nonsense for many years now!
F*** Notre Dame
While I prefer 8 to 12...
It should be 4. The only good reason to expand is that the current system artificially reinforces the talent advantage at the top, and the riffraff deserve a legitimate shot at signing 4- and 5-star players.
Will still turn out to be creeping NFLAIDS in the long run.
I can say that myself, and many of my friends from differing fan bases, have mostly stopped watching college football because it is boring. That is especially true of the playoffs/championship rounds. Who wants to watch Bama and Clemson duke it out nearly every year. It is not good for the sport IMO but I understand how a Buckeye would not want more competition.
Me: The one good argument for expansion is that it would increase competition by spreading out talent.
You: I can see how a Buckeye would not want more competition.
(I want to de-commercialize college football altogether and eliminate sports scholarships. I don't care how that would affect Ohio State's competitive advantage. This is probably incomprehensible to 110-iq midwits at the AA school for kids who can't read good.)
It should be 8 with conferences capped at 10 teams. No CCGs. But my idea was no longer possible once the SEC added South Carolina and Arkansas.
Good. Play in a fucking conference.
Let’s all observe a moment of silence for ND given their playoff expansion format predicament.
Times up!
I wonder what NBC will think about ND joining the ACC full time?
ND is not an institutional or athletic match with the ACC, just like Pitt and Syracuse have not been.
The Irish should join the Big 10 just like the Panthers and Orange should have (subtract Rutgers and Maryland).
Agree. They can stick their "holier than thou" attitude where the sun doesn't shine. Biggest bunch of a-holes out there
Perhaps no meme has ever better captured how I feel about Notre Dame. You truly are doing the Lord's work this evening.
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Good!
But not good enough.
Let's make this even better. Let's make the rules such that the other independents (BYU, Army, UConn, etc) ARE Bye Eligible.
It's unlikely any of them ever would ever be in a position to get a bye of course.
But since Notre Dame thinks they are such a "special and precious and unique little snowflake in the college football world", let's give them their own special and precious and unique little carveout.
I assume they'll just try to create their own conference with the three service academies and whatever directional schools in the Midwest who'll stay out of their way. /s
But seriously, I like the idea of an expanded playoffs just to keep things interesting, and perhaps spur on the NIL rights talk a bit more because of the increased visibility options.
It’s like Homer said to Lisa in a Treehouse of Horror episode of the Simpsons. “So grow a penis or get lost.”
AKA go find a conference or go fuck off.
Notre Dame could always play with itself and that would be their "bye", right? The problem is if you play with yourself and still manage to lose. Not only is it embarrassing, but you still have to wipe up afterwards.
Another good opportunity to reference the zen wisdom of Ty Webb and Dr. Beeper
it's been a long time since I was in Catholic school, but I seem to remember that being frowned upon.
Make it 16 teams. Byes are not good for the fans. Thus, not good for the sport.
16 teams--a couple more good games in January.
They will change it - too much money involved. What is the gate for a sold-out Big House, Shoe, Swamp, etc in January? ADs love $
Is this a part of bigger effort to preserve the Rose Bowl, Orange Bowl, etc. as part of the Playoff by any chance? I think that would be amazing if that's the case and I'll absolutely be for it then because the Championship Bowls and their traditions need to not end!
Need to do home site games. F*** the Rose Bowl.
Completely agree that at least in the early rounds games should be home site, and finals played in a rotating location. But having attended every UM Rose Bowl since 1978, something special has been lost...
The 12 team playoff format being discussed is the final death blow to conference independence. It puts you at such a massive competitive disadvantage that it’s just not worth whatever extra money ND gets from NBC to stay independent.
Big 10 offers them a better geographic fit and more money, acc offers a better cultural fit (ACC has far more private colleges than any other major conference) and an easier path to on field success. We’ll see whether ND cares more about money or success.
The BIG 10 has always been tougher than the ACC. It shouldn't have Notre Dame added to it. They should be in the ACC. I think Penn St should leave the BIG 10 too. Too many good teams in the BIG 10 East.
If Notre Dame joined they would be joining the western division, so their road would be a bit easier.
Don’t let them in a conference and just force them to be an independent who never gets to the playoffs
Watch, ND will try to join the PAC-12.
The Pac 10 does have two private schools which Notre Dame has played for a long time. I do think it would be hilarious to see Notre Dame playing at night on the road game at Washington State and getting upset.
Oddly, the regular Stanford series only goes back to the late eighties (aside from a few games every now and then before that). I thought it was an older series like the Southern Cal thing.
Before the 60s it was very difficult to travel to the west coast. Trains took several days.
LOL.
Seer-yus-lee, I laughed.
It’s really simple. More playoff teams means more excitement for more players, schools, fans, and tv networks. A system in which only 4 out of 130 teams go to the playoffs is absurd, reductive, bad for the game, and boring, especially when it’s always the same 4-6 teams. Shake off the cobwebs. Open things up. Have more fun.