Nix Flagrant Foul

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March 16th, 2013 at 6:30 PM
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Ziff72
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Nix Flagrant Foul

Nix's flagrant is just something that drives me nuts.   What is the difference between what Nix did and what Woford did to GR3?    Nothing really, except Nix outweighs Craft by 100lbs.   I hate when the foul is determined because of the size of the player or more precisely the differential of size between the 2 players.     Nix is a goon but if he made the exact same play on Thomas it doesn't get called.   Too bad it wasn't Spike who got that breakaway we would be BIg Ten champs.

All right I'm done bitching please return to hating the basketball team and looking for spring football nuggets.

 

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March 16th, 2013 at 6:44 PM | Will someone ban this troll? (Score:0 Normal)
March 16th, 2013 at 7:35 PM | The board's what? (Score:5 Normal)
UMxWolverines
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The board's what?

"Ohio is like a giant turd that Michigan just can't pinch off"

March 16th, 2013 at 7:42 PM | Before you neg him... (Score:4 Normal)
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Fyi - wolverine41's comment is directed towards a troll that only shows up on the mobile app for whatever reason.

March 16th, 2013 at 8:02 PM | Hmmm , interesting didn't (Score:1)
Wolverine41
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Hmmm , interesting didn't know that

March 16th, 2013 at 9:00 PM | Yep. So rest assured that he was at least banned, (Score:3 Normal)
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Yep. So rest assured that he was at least banned, even though he somehow can still post through the app.

March 16th, 2013 at 9:21 PM | Yeah the iPhone app guy is (Score:4 Normal)
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Yeah the iPhone app guy is aware of that but it's hard to fix. On the site it's a Drupal module that hides any posts by someone we caved. The troll doesn't see that and unless we also block he can still post--just he can see it. I think the troll also gets put on the old old server which runs really slow. It's not easy to copy that on the app im led to believe. Anyway we split the ads he gets on the app, while we keep a way larger ad buy for those who load the whole site, so I guess you guys using the site proper deserve the troll-free environment for being incrementally more valuable.

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March 16th, 2013 at 11:11 PM | I suppose I could put in some (Score:2)
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I suppose I could put in some check for banned people, provided I have access to such a list.  I'm not sure I can distinguish a deleted post from a real one based on what the server gives me.

March 16th, 2013 at 6:43 PM | I somewhat agree with you (in (Score:0 Normal)
March 16th, 2013 at 6:35 PM | *Watford (Score:5 Normal)
AmaizeingBlue
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*Watford

March 16th, 2013 at 6:36 PM | Good call (Score:1)
Michiganfootball13
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If a flagrant 2 was called I could see how MSU could be pissed but he did not make any attempt at the ball so a flagrant 1 was a good call, IMHO.

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March 16th, 2013 at 6:39 PM | Nothing to see here.  I don't (Score:1 Normal)
yoopergoblue
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Nothing to see here.  I don't think Nix meant any harm and I agreed with the flagrant 1 they gave him for the play.

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March 18th, 2013 at 6:14 AM | Don't be nieve. Some I might (Score:1)
Cold War
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Don't be nieve. Some I might give the benefit of the doubt, but this guy is a goon.

March 16th, 2013 at 6:40 PM | Call me an geezer (Score:2 Normal)
m83econ
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But if the refs have to go to replay to figure out the foul call, either the refs are incompetent or the rule is written poorly

March 16th, 2013 at 6:47 PM | Geezer. (Score:4 Normal)
Laser Wolf
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Geezer.

March 16th, 2013 at 7:22 PM | An (Score:2 Normal)
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Geezer!

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March 16th, 2013 at 6:40 PM | Call me an geezer (Score:0 Trolling)
March 16th, 2013 at 6:47 PM | Still a geezer. (Score:5 Funny)
Laser Wolf
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Still a geezer.

March 16th, 2013 at 8:47 PM | An* (Score:3 Normal)
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An geezer.

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March 16th, 2013 at 6:42 PM | This could have gone (Score:0 Normal)
March 16th, 2013 at 6:45 PM | I think Glen Robinson lll got (Score:2 Normal)
DKohn81
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I think Glen Robinson lll got screwed twice with no flagarants called against him. The IU game was an missed call and the Ohio game he got hit in the head late, but everyone forgets that because Michigan pulled out the W. I just hate the inconsitency of officiating this year.

March 16th, 2013 at 6:55 PM | This year? (Score:2 Normal)
Urban Warfare
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This year?

March 16th, 2013 at 7:24 PM | Maybe he's talking about some of the other years (Score:5 Normal)
jhender85
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Maybe he's talking about some of the other years GRIII played for us...

March 16th, 2013 at 7:48 PM | Urban Warfare's no response = (Score:2 Normal)
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Urban Warfare's no response = Touche

March 19th, 2013 at 9:40 AM | I'm just amazed he waited (Score:1)
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I'm just amazed he waited until this year to complain about the inconsistency of B1G basketball officiating.

March 16th, 2013 at 6:49 PM | There is no difference.  Both (Score:3 Normal)
ThadMattasagoblin
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There is no difference.  Both should have been flagrants.  The refs just didn't have the balls to make that call against the Hoosiers.

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March 16th, 2013 at 7:33 PM | Exactly (Score:0 Normal)
March 16th, 2013 at 7:15 PM | You are correct. There was a (Score:4 Normal)
swan flu
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You are correct. There was a huge study done in the last decade where a bunch of English soccer refs came to the US to try and figure out why we aren't better at the sport. One of their major conclusions was that US refs at every level (the study mostly looked at soccer refs but im sure it applies to other sports as well) treat fouls differently depending on the size disparity between the two parties involved. Ie, calling the Nix incident a flagrant while not calling the Watford foul. In soccer, the result is that bigger, stronger, more athletic players get "Harrison Bergeron'd" and their development can be hindered.

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March 17th, 2013 at 12:08 AM | I think it also plays into (Score:3 Normal)
mGrowOld
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I think it also plays into our love for the underdog as a country. Watch any game in any sport where one team is hopelessly overmatched skill and size wise and for some reason that squad, not the smaller less talented one, will seemingly have trouble with not fouling. Refs are human and I think subconsciously they try to "even things up" between teams and certainly between players .

 

 

March 17th, 2013 at 12:58 AM | There was a huge study done (Score:2)
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There was a huge study done in the last decade where a bunch of English soccer refs came to the US to try and figure out why we aren't better at the sport.

Interesting. Do you have a link?

March 18th, 2013 at 5:45 AM | Diana Moon Glampers thanks (Score:1)
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Diana Moon Glampers thanks you for the Vonnegut reference.

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March 16th, 2013 at 7:21 PM | I see a couple of differences (Score:1)
SDCran
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but they say Watford's was worse.

GR3 was on a clear breakaway.  Enough said.

...and, after the push in the back, he slapped GR3 on the shoulder which gave him the 'making a play at the ball' call.  But he was about 3 feet away from the ball where he made the slap as GR had the ball extended.

Nix also slapped at Craft's shoulder which was the entire foul.  You really could make an argument that Nix's pull on the shoulder was very close to the ball.  If Craft had lifted the ball for a shot (he just kept it tucked), Nix might have hit it. 

 

March 16th, 2013 at 7:30 PM | The difference is that Nix (Score:2 Normal)
maizenblue92
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The difference is that Nix attempted to hack off Aaron Craft's head with his arm to the point where the announcers had to debate whether or not it was an F1 or F2. While with Watford's you COULD make an argument he was making a play on the ball. 

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March 16th, 2013 at 9:24 PM | No you can't. (Score:2 Normal)
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With the position that Watford was in, there is no way he could make a play on the ball. It awe a gutless call by the ref.

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March 16th, 2013 at 7:35 PM | If I had to wear a jersey (Score:0 Offtopic)
March 16th, 2013 at 7:37 PM | But of course all the (Score:3 Normal)
UMxWolverines
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But of course all the sparties are all ''JIM DELANY CONSPIRACY OMGZ!''

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March 16th, 2013 at 7:43 PM | "I see nothing wrong (Score:3 Normal)
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March 16th, 2013 at 8:16 PM | Neither does Wisconsin. (Score:2)
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Neither does Wisconsin.

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March 16th, 2013 at 7:51 PM | Did anyone see his (Score:-1 Trolling)
March 16th, 2013 at 8:05 PM | What did he say in the tweet? (Score:1)
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What did he say in the tweet?

March 16th, 2013 at 7:54 PM | Lose like a man.Get Weight (Score:2 Normal)
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March 16th, 2013 at 8:09 PM | When people are moving that (Score:1 Trolling)
snoopblue
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When people are moving that fast around one another, that is going to happen. Sometimes the slow motion replays make it look worse. It looked like he tried to go for the ball, but was too fat and slow to get there in time so he got his neck. (Lol Sorry I had to) I think maybe it could have been in intentional foul? But I think flagrant is pushing it.

March 16th, 2013 at 9:37 PM | Flagrant 1 (Score:2)
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There's no such thing as an intentional foul anymore--it is now a flagrant 1.

March 16th, 2013 at 8:16 PM | One difference. (Score:1 Normal)
Smash Lampjaw
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Nix came close to and may have touched the ball.

March 17th, 2013 at 9:45 AM | And who the hell are you ? (Score:1)
Wolverine41
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And who the hell are you ?

March 16th, 2013 at 9:26 PM | Sour grapes. We gave away our (Score:-1 Trolling)
March 16th, 2013 at 9:48 PM | For Context... (Score:2)
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...and for those that did not watch the game, here is the call in question:

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March 18th, 2013 at 6:20 AM | He reached in a direction (Score:1)
Cold War
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He reached in a direction toward the ball, but ended up wrapping his neck and pulling.

March 16th, 2013 at 9:54 PM | Little bit of Oscar by Craft (Score:1)
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Little bit of Oscar by Craft but GR3 call was the same in that there was no play on the ball

March 16th, 2013 at 10:02 PM | I dunno (Score:2)
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Hard to fault Craft. It's hard to continue to drive to the hoop without your neck.

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March 16th, 2013 at 10:30 PM | True it does look worse in (Score:1)
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True it does look worse in slow motion ... but ehh

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